I have a 00 polaris XC sp 440 And I beat F5 at hole shot and top end. I can beat a F6 0-80 mph. Was the 440's strong this year?

id like to see a video to prove that, i just find it very hard to believe

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You got the cat guys going now,there always lerking in our forum.It would be possible,but the F6 should start pulling away at around 200 feet.

I think the younger the poster, the faster the sled.


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considering every new post shows up on the homepage, thats where i found it anyways, but i had a 98 zr 440 and always said it could beat 600's and stuff, i think its only true if the 2 sleds are the same year, cuz i could beat some 98 600's, but i wouldnt stand a chance against my new firecat!!

Good one golfer :lol2: :smilielol:

All I know is that this past winter one day i rode with a guy who was on an XR 440 with a 1.5" track and 96 studs. He smoked me on the hole shot and was pulling away till atleast 50, then started to reel em in and passed him.

I agree with u fast rider but the guy who posted this thread has a 2000 XC 440 and it's definetly not the same as the 2004 Pro XR 440.Now the 2004 Pro XR 440 will definetly give the F6 some competition all the way up to 80 MPH and the F5,well I seen the outcome but I want to see what the cat guys have to say. :div20:

Clutch and gear the f5 like the 440's and it will hang with or beat the newer ones(02-05) to 50-60 then the f5 will pull a away. But maybe brocks sled will be different as he races on the "pro circuit" SO its a no brainer, he wont be beat. Now about the 2000 44o and a properly running f5 it wont happen unless the f5 has its power valves stuck closed, pipe sensor not working, coolant sensor not functioning.

Nice...I have a 98 440 and I've raced the 00's and always beat them. Only have clutching.

i find that pretty hard to belive allthough it would be possible i dont the a stock 440 will beat a f6 to 80mph

Always something....

I don't care what u think of me and your always quoting me as being on "the pro circut" to try and discredit me.Well I do have years of experience that surpases your age.Why do you even give a s@#t about me,I don't care about you or what you think.Go ahead, keep on going with ur comments,I've like reading them. :div20:

Just to try to compare, I had a 98 ZR440 Sno-Pro that was a friggen rocket. I beat alot of 600's and even some 700's with it, and raced some kids that thought they were bad-ass on there XC440's, and gave them a woopin. One day I lined up with a guy on a brand new 03 F5, and he smoked me every time, all the way through, and he weighed almost 100lbs more than me :augen41: . Less than a month later I had an F5 sitting in the shed and my Sno-Pro was on the front lawn for sale

our 98 440 with clutching can out run any stock 500, and hang in wth a lot of 600's. the 99 edge 440 will eat a lot of 600's.

when we ran the zr800 against the 98 440 in 500 feet it was even. the driver on the 800 was 100 lbs heavier. but since they were on glare ice with trail studs. the extra wieght helped him hook up better.

in trail stock class at the cmsa races. the newer 440's are in the mid to low 90's and the 800 twin class is in the high 90's

Just for comparison with an F5. My 02 440 sno pro would run side by side with my F5 sno pro from pretty much bottom to top with a slight advantage to the F5 on top. The F5 is fast when properly clutched.

My F5 with current setup will run with or out run my bud's 02 XC6 or 01 XC6. Top end goes to the 01 XC6. That bugger is a bullet on top end with the .88 track.

This thread can go on and on,but remember you cat guys,your in THE POLARIS FORUM. :cn:

Well i think this should be in the general forum because the guy who posted it was obviously looking to start chit.

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brock you are def. right, the xr is nutty compared to the 00. I was just stating that its possible for the 440 to pull of something like that. For all you fellas out therewho think brock is a know-it-all cuz he's on the "pro circuit" well guess what...he is. especially compared to most others on this forum. He may not "know it all" but he sure knows a helluva lot! He races and he races on a polaris! do you think he would stay on polaris if he was loosing races?...i think not. And just for comparison...I have raced a stock f6 with my 01 600 xc and to a half mile (when i let off, he wasnt in my side view) once i let off he did go by me, but not before then. He said another 100 ft. and he woulda passed, but who knows. ppl will talk and talk forever, but once its seen through your owns eyes, you know what the truth is...

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!....i was thinking the same thing...people will talk and would even knows if the sleds are set up right just a loose belt we have seen 7 hp lose to the track on the dyno from just loose belt...everything plays a factor u never know!

Part I.

Two of my friends race (Rock Maple + Eaton Mountain series), and both have identical Pro 440 XRs. They are geared to run a top speed of about 80. To those who don't think that the XRs are QUICK, I suggest you line up your F-7s against the XRs and race for 500 feet. At Eaton Mountain (snocross), both of these machines reach the first corner before any other machines in the OPEN class, which includes Firecats and Pro-X 800s.

Part II
These same two friends ran their machines at the Pattee Pond radar runs this past winter. In 1000 feet, they ran first and second in the up-to-500cc class...until late in the day when an XC 500 took top honors by less than 1 mph. The F-5s (there were many there) were not as fast.

I don't mind giving credit to the F-6 and the F-7 as being the top speed machines in their classes, but I have yet to see an F-5 that really impressed me. The XC500sp is still top dog from what I have seen firsthand at the radar runs and in grudge matches.

Perhaps the kid on the F-5 who challenged me to a race on the Sebasticook River this past winter fueled my distaste for the F-5. He looked at my Pro-X 600 and claimed it was a "slow P.O.C." We lined them up. He stayed by my side for about ten feet, then my out-of-the-crate stock Pro-X "POC" hooked up and left him W A Y behind. The second time we raced, it was even more of a blowout. A 1998 MXZ 583 also left him behind...

American Snowmobiler discovered that the F-5 has closer to 90 hp than it does to Cat's claimed 105, which is probably why the 100 horsepower MXZ beat it.

:share_doobie: :worthless_without_pics: .

I would not bother with a F5, as I really don't see where it is much faster than most other 500 class sleds, if any, by the numbers I"ve seen. I ran a F6 this winter in 660ft and it beat me by a couple lengths never tried a F5, but I doubt it would be any closer to a F6, now the F7, different story..

Hey about the xc440 it is ported and polished, clutch kit, geared up, slp big flow air. I know it will beat f5 raced 3 diffrent ones, raced one F6 and he got me on top end rider 180-200 lbs, about the same as me. I raced a F7 we wont get into to much detail I was seeing the sno flap. I don't know mabe it was a bad runing F6?

Get some good ones and poor ones, with that many mods you are probably putting out near as much HP as the F6, good working F6's run close to 110 mph.

Here's some information (sorry "my cat eats dogs," no pictures) from the 2003 AmSnow Shootout:

1320 feet; fair track conditions

Pro-X 600 (1st place stock): 13.777 seconds @ 84.75 mph; 110 hp; 534 lbs.
REV 600 HO (2nd place): 14.401 seconds @ 86.21 mph; 117.3 hp; 522 lbs.
Yam SX 600 R (3rd): 14.626 seconds @ 82.27 mph; 97.3 hp; 553 lbs.
Cat F-5 (4th): 15.792 seconds @ 75.63 mph; 93.1 hp; 507 lbs.


After the dealers adjusted clutching and jetting; the Pro-X was still quicker (13.464 seconds vs. 14.975) and faster (88.58 mph vs. 76.92) than the F-5. Apparently the kid who raced me had not seen that issue of AmSnow, nor had he been to a radar run, I guess...

In Stock F 500 Class the Pro XR 440,older XC 440 and Rev 440 consistantly win in that class.Now the Stock B & C 700 Class this is were Cat shines.The best cat is the F7 for drag racing,the F6's and F5's have there hands full with Polaris and Ski-Doo.

I'm dissapointed with some of F5 numbers , 75 mph in 1320 this sled is surposed to be much better than than the ZR 500, I had mine radared this winter in 660 at 78mph and it's wore out, F6 holds it's own, but had stiff compition, there all close in that class. Can"t really expect the F5 to run with the pro x and 600 HO's there not classed together and big diff in power. The F5 should not run anything bigger than a 500.

According to the AmSnow article, Cat said the F-5 was a replacement for the ZR 600 because it supposedly produced similar horsepower numbers--that's why it ran in the 600 class. The following year, the F-6 was a full-production sled, so it ran against the 600s.

Yes.. That was cats mistake, The F5 would never compete against the 600xcsp, they had no choice but to build a 600 for that class. I think the 600ZR was around 110Hp the last year, so they were still of the mark.

The 600 stock class is very competitive,Polaris,Cat and Doo are all very close,there is no exceptional winner in this class.This year will be interesting with new light Fusion 600 HO,more torque and more HP,we'll see what happens

Pol has had a strong 600 since 2000, The 600 XCSP was the only 2 cyl 600 I could not beat back then, and it has only been lately since the F6- 600HO has came along that I have been beaten by the same distance. I have only run one of each, but yes this class is undecided. The new fussion might up the steaks.

yeah brock, i havent seen any knowledgeable, relevant, posts from you... wtf man, get with it.... :doh: :beerchug: :div20:

Really,I guess you can't read then. :cn: