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GMANN
I just picked up a Savage 300 mag and was reading more about it on the internet. The article said most hunters can not shoot it accurately due to the flinch in anticipation of the recoil and that many guides make hunters prove that they can shoot the gun accurately before they will take them out. Does any one have an accuracy problem with theirs? I bought it for Elk Hunting out West however I may use it in MN instead of my 30-06. I was set on a 7mm however I changed my mind after talking to the sales man. uzi.gif
Any feedback would be appreciated :beerchug:
lee375
I've shot a .308 for yr's.I've shot my buddies .300 Win Mag.Yeah there is more recoil,but it is something you can get used to by practicing on a regular basis.Don't know about the Guides out west.Not sure what you mean by your accuracy?- Lee
PLUMMER
Well the acticle was half right but definately not clear with the reader. The Savage is a very good general gun. I can outshoot a bad shooter using a High dollar target 300 and me using the Savage. Its all in the shooter capabilities. and getting used to YOUR gun. You will be more than happy with it and the more important thing is to look at your trajectory, veloctiy and energy of your load that you have chossen for your hunting. Any brand of bullet catalog will have this.

Any good guide will make you prove your shot when it comes to big game. If he doesn't know you, you are the same as a yuppie with more money than skill and brains. Money don't buy the wounded ELK back to you after you lost it from a bad shot.

In comparison for out west ELK hunting the 300 Weatherby Mag HAS been the bench mark for Accuracy and take down power well out to 500 yrds. Not that your guide or any reasonable hunter would take that shot....but.....its there. ( for a SFS). I particularly use a 30-378 Weatherby Mag, Some use a 7mm others have used a 30/30 winchester under 100 yards. look at those numbers on the graph and it will tell you basically how far you are gonna chase your game if you don't hit the perfect shot.
goldenboy
The .300 doesn't kick much worse then a 7mm and I don't think you'll have to worry about getting used to it, same size bullet as 30/06 which has a lot to do with recoil and the casing isn't TOO much bigger, you should be fine.

What did the salesmen say to get you to change your mind. My next rifle I'm looking at is a 7mm STW or regular Remington Mag.

If you have problems with recoil you can get a muzzle brake on their that will cut the recoil almost in half it feels like.
lee375
Little known fact-The .300 Win Mag was used in Vietnam to fill the Void for something more than the .308 & 30-06.Used by the U.S. Army.I own a Savage .308-I need to put at least 200 rd's thru that barrel before I will see my groups thighten up.Not sure how many for the Win Mag.I have a Savage FLP Lee
PLUMMER
Lee try an abrasive similar to tooth paste grit. 1500
takes only a box of rounds...........Bore honing.
GMANN
QUOTE(goldenboy @ May 24 2005, 11:15 PM)
The .300 doesn't kick much worse then a 7mm and I don't think you'll have to worry about getting used to it, same size bullet as 30/06 which has a lot to do with recoil and the casing isn't TOO much bigger, you should be fine.

What did the salesmen say to get you to change your mind. My next rifle I'm looking at is a 7mm STW or regular Remington Mag.

If you have problems with recoil you can get a muzzle brake on their that will cut the recoil almost in half it feels like.
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He said for the money the 300 has a longer range, more knock down power and the bullet is bigger so it puts a bigger hole in the animal to help insure a humane kill :div20:
He said the 7mm will do fine however for out west with the long shots that you may have to take he said the 300 was the better gun. That was his opinion.

Thanks for the info on the muzzle break!

Here is a link to the gun I bought
http://www.savagearms.com/110gxp3.htm
PLUMMER
heres a link to similar cartouches. Note the grain difference and what you would normaly use for a 7mm. I think a brake on a 300 sav. or 300 rem. is unnecessary because it really dosen't kick that much. Until you get into the magnums and felt recoil.

http://www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/c...ics_results.asp
ZRman_31
i shoot a 7mm and if you can't handle a 7 milly, get outa the shooting range!
GMANN
QUOTE(ZRman_31 @ May 25 2005, 10:31 AM)
i shoot a 7mm and if you can't handle a 7 milly, get outa the shooting range!
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I see your 17, so I will be nice, but please keep this worthless crap off this thread :div20:
98XC800
I have a Parker-Hale(mauser derivative) and a Remington BDL, both in .300 Win Mag. The recoil is not that bad, but both are not light rifles. I fired a fiend's lightweight mountain rifle in 30-06, and it had a lot more recoil.

Here in Manitoba, I have used .300 Win Mag for 25 years, for every type of big game we have (whitetail deer, moose, caribou, black bear, timber wolf, and even a wild boar.

It is a very versatile round. There is a bullet weight for every application.
goldenboy
For elk .300 is the way to go, but the 7 actually has more speed downrange and less drop, but the 180+ grain bullets availabe for the .300 is nice on stuff bigger then deer and it does make a bigger hole like you said.
Fast Rider
I shoot a 30-.06 and prox16 shoots a .300 mag. Ive shot his gun a couple times and the recoil isnt really that much more, noticeable, but not much at all. the casing is a lil taller holding more powder, but for around here i find it to be a lil overpowering for whats needed. .308 is fine for anything, its nice to have the longer reach of a 30-.06 but thats more than enough. Where we hunt you're hard pressed to find something that you need the reach of a .300 unless you road hunt and see something in a cutting. Plus in a 30-.06 you save money on bullets over some other calibers. but in your case im sure the .300 will be good. He had a problem with his (sig arms) where a piece i think bent or something because when he ejected the bullets (ours are both bolt action) he did it too hard. Oh well, I like my gun and it is more than enough for the areas i hunt. last year I didn't even get to hunt with it cuz I got my deer first weekend of muzzleloading. wtf.gif I still need to break it in!
Marvs660
I have a Ruger .300 win. mag in the all weather stainless, just took a couple boxes to get used to it, a little more recoil than my .30/06. For moose I used the the Winchester Supreme CXP3 shells and have downed 4 moose so far. As for accuracy, 2 were head shots, one neck and one shoulder, the moose drop as soon as being hit, can't argue with that.
Oh, and another teen that knows it all, lol. :frech32:
GMANN
Thanks for all the great imput!! The one thing I did not realize that was mentioned is the price for a box of 300 win mag shells ~28.00 US :augen41:
Fast Rider
Yikes!! i pay like 14ish for a box of .06's
tommcat
congrats on the new rifle, 300 winnie is probably my personal favorite round. while i havent shot that particular rifle i have shot many others and in my opinion the recoil is very manageable. HOWEVER, i have found that recoil and the way people handle any given round or rifle varies greatly. i personally like big recoil and shoot very well with it. I shoot my 375 H&H with iron sights at 200 yards(standing) and group very well. i also shoot my .500 mag revolver and have no problems and yet i have a friend who is without question a very good shot and after one round out of the 375 and 500 he refused to shoot either one again.

a great addition to the 300 win(or any large caliber) is the simms labs, limb saver recoil pad. i cannot say enough good things about them.

good luck and happy shooting :beerchug:
tommcat
QUOTE(Fast Rider @ Jun 4 2005, 04:02 PM)
Yikes!! i pay like 14ish for a box of .06's
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I pay 80 bucks for a box of 20 for the 375 H&H :augen41:
tommcat
QUOTE(Marvs660 @ May 28 2005, 02:58 AM)
I have a Ruger .300 win. mag in the all weather stainless, just took a couple boxes to get used to it, a little more recoil than my .30/06.  For moose I used the the Winchester Supreme CXP3 shells and have downed 4 moose so far.  As for accuracy, 2 were head shots, one neck and one shoulder, the moose drop as soon as being hit, can't argue with that.
Oh, and another teen that knows it all, lol. :frech32:
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is yours the M77 MkII? i had the synth stock on that gun in 338 win mag and that thing hurt. the butt plate is too narrow and felt like a shovel blade digging into my shoulder. a nice new synth stock took care of that problem, very nice gun now :div20:
goldenboy
$28 is actually pretty good for the price of .300 now, most of them are in the mid $30's here.
Fast Rider
tommcat...if you like to shoot I hope you have some fairly deep pockets!! lol.
tommcat
QUOTE(Fast Rider @ Jun 12 2005, 10:50 PM)
tommcat...if you like to shoot I hope you have some fairly deep pockets!! lol.
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spend it like ya got it......even if you dont :beerchug: :div20:
sparky_11
just be glad its not the recoil from a 458 win mag 510 grain soft point :augen41: :augen41: :augen41: :augen41:
Tcat1000cc
I noticed some of you guys talking about price of bullets. I am fortunate enough to live close to the city center here in saratoga and they have a couple gun shows every year with a ton of vendors. I have found a select few who do reloads and the prices sound to good to be true compared to many of the big companies but i have shot tight groups with rounds purchased off these folks along with deer to back it up. If you guys get the chance to go to a gun show its well worth the money. I have a 300 win mag and get a box of 20 bullets for $12-$15. Granted they are ballistic tip. The $6 admission fee is only a drop in the bucket when i buy $200 worth of ammo that would cost me double that in the store so check out a gun show next chance you get. You never know!
Polaris Fan0850
Its a flat shooting gun, good for field shooting
Erie_One
Once a year my friend and I will double check each other for flinch. To make sure we are not pulling the rifle. The shooter will hand the gun to the spotter, the spotter loads the gun, and then the shooter shoots. Every once in a while the spotter will load a dummy shell. This is the best way I have found to cure the flinch associated with recoil. I never would have believed I had developed a flinch without doing this. This really helped me out; my grouping at long yardage was greatly improved. This little exercise really forces you to concentrate on the target, take your time, and most importantly squeeze easy.

CJ
wildcat3
I shoot a 300 win mag synthetic stainless (ruger version) :banghead: . I have used it for deer in Wiscony for 3 years, but I bought it for a caribou hunt in Alaska also 3 years ago. I havent had any problems with accuracy. In fact I much prefer this gun to my old man's 30-06 and would take it any day over the 270 that I had as a kid. If you think flinching is an issue by or order a snap cap for your gun and practice dry firing it a bunch of times. Eventually you won't flinch at all with any gun. smoothasbaby'sbutt :banghead:
jjkGURU
i have a savage 300 win mag and love it. been shooting it for the last few years and haven't had to track anything i shot with it. and yes it has some recoil, but you're not plinking with it so it's fine...
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