Dean wants to put on another race march 12.
THIS TIME we will start MUCH earlyer -registration ending by 11:00am SHARP racing starting by 11:30 - 12:00.
HERE are NEW rules:
1 3/8" MAXIMUM lug height for stock classes- we are not going to allow the 1 3/4" that dominated this past weekend
we WILL have a board to show the ladder to all racers and speed up the process.
we will try to get another 30-40 ft of width packed and groomed and see if we can run 4 at a time with 1 and 2 advancing.(this depends on snow condition, as the 2 present lanes are REALLY GOOD now!!)
MOD's will be allowed to shovel to the ground if they want. this wont effect the stockers as each class will be run out and mods will run after stockers are done.

Our #1 change will be getting the races started earlier and finishing BEFORE dark!!!!!! :banghead:

LET me know if anyone wants to come back to Riverton on march12, feedback here within the next couple days will determine wether it happens or not!!!!
if anyone has anything to add for rule changes post it here and we will definately consider it.

Sorry WFO but there are sleds that come stock with more than a 1 3/8 track. Track choice should be up to the racer and if you only have a 1 3/8 and a 1 3/4 track or even a 2 in is the better track for the day to bad so sad then for the smaller luggers. Keep a good solid base with a proper set of lights and a visible starting line and leave the tracks alone. Oh ya and have someone watching for red lighters. I heard it was an issue at times.

as far as track height - we have got to draw the line somewhere and this is where it will be for us. if someone actually shows up with a mountain sled that came stock with a bigger lug thats another story, we had 2 guys with 1 3/4" at the previous race and NEITHER were mountain sleds or even factory longtracks- they had AFTERMARKET tracks - how is that fair for the rest of the stockers?. please respond to this . we definatly want a solid line drawn about this.
I agree about the jumps starts - I was an offender, and I gave up a sledlength for my crime which allowed BULLDOGGER to get around me in 8 stock class!!!!lol. I think there were only 2 times were jumps were involved and both were adressed by putting the offender back a length.

thanks for the post barret! i'm dean me and barret put the riverton drags on and i'm already bored !!!i want to race every weekend and i usually do! on ice! since the ice drags are about to get started !but they are all about 400/500 km from riverton! [there and back] almost every one!i would like to race more and closer !if it means putting on another race to do so !!! i will! if there is no interest then i'll put my ice track on and race ice I"LL admit it wasn't organized as planned and things didn't go as smooth as previous years !but my co-ordinators that ran the board and called the races were busy with other things !I M thinking of having another race since the track is rock hard and all i'd have to do is re groom it and move up the starting line! also it doesn't look like any thing else is in near sight as far as racing goes also by the time you set a date and actually race the season is border line done!!!!!also barrett wants another first place win with his 1 week old stock f-7 !!!haha/ he did pretty good for a sled right out of the box!!!! the rules would be 1 3/8 max lug ! no exceptions in stock 80 % payback since there wouldn't be trophy's [I"M NOT SURE ABOUT THE TROPHY"S YET} let's hear some feedback [when the green flag drops the bull$h%&! stops !!!

The typical crossover sleds like Doo 'Gades have an 1 3/4 track as an option. The 440 class sleds. What about them ? 1.75 tracks are pretty much the norm for a 440 racer now. Why not just say 1 in and leave it at that. Make it really level. Let guys figure out how to hook. A good racer will still win with a 1 in track. A poor racer or tuning ability can not be made up by making everyone run a maximum lug track.

I see that this is an issue with you. so I am going to set out the rule right now which will be enforced in RIVERTON(other places can doo what they want):
1 3/8" MAXIMUM track lug height.
exceptions are 440 stockers which come with larger tracks, and mountain sleds that come with larger tracks. your renegade comes with a 1.25 and you will be allowed up to 1 3/8"
dont bring an edge with a 1 3/4" and pretend its a vertical escape shortened up!
you will still need to read that clutching book.
I guess the real question is: DOES ANYONE WANT TO COME BACK IF WE HOLD ANOTHER RACE?????????

It's not a major issue. But tracks have always been a tuning aid per say. Will your decision hurt turnout or increase turnout ? Guess we'll have to wait and see. Just don't bring this rule into play because a few local boys have there panties in a knot because they got beat. For the record though I don't like the idea of limiting track size in the stock class.

no-ones panties are in any knots! lol we had 2 complaints about allowing the 1 3/4" tracks into stock.
we just need a rule and let everyone know ahead of time so it is FAIR, and true to the STOCK part of stock class racing.

Well guys, just want to say I had a great time on Sat. and really appreciate the effort that goes into these kind of races. Unfortunately if the next ones are held on Mar. 12, I will be soaking up some sun in the Dominican Rep. and will have to miss out. Oh well! However my wish list for the next snow drags in Riverton would be:

Start on time. Doesn't have to be earlier, just on time.
Board for racers to see when and where they race.
Four lane races, top two advance, no B side.
Some type of signal at finish line so everyone including spectators knew who won.
Start light should be activated by individual out of sight to racers. (behind them)

I realize these recommendations will double the required volunteers which may pose a problem for you, however, I feel the races would run much more smoothly with some changes. I also recognize that if putting these races on becomes more work than fun for you they will cease to happen again, so just do what you can.

JMHO Bull

i was listening to the weather channel and they are saying its going to be a colder than normal march which i think would be nice becauase i havent had my fill of racing yet.i am sure the dryden boys will be up there if you have another race.

as far as starting the races on time /I"VE BEEN TO EASY GOING !when i go to ebb&flo or sandy bay or any other 300 km trek i'm there at 9:00 in the morning i'm up at 4:30 AM so i shouldn;t worry about guys coming from wpg or surrounding area that is very close 1 hour 1.5or two hours ! bill reimer came from vermillion bay and he was the first one to register on saturday!!!!!!!!so let;s hear some feedback 4 lanes 2 advance 2 are on the trailer ????or 2 are on the b-side it's your opinions that are needed before hand !!!yes we will have a board 4-lanes mods can dig to china for sushi !!!!!!!!

The track that was made up for your previous race was set up for a paddle track,,,, a short loose track. To make it fair for everyone, a good hard packed track that is a true 660' long will make it more fair for everyone no matter what lug height you run.

Hey this sounds like a blast. I'd be willing to participate. How much does this cost, what are the rules? Can we have picked tracks? I could probably bring a few guys with me. Let me know all the particulars.

I was going to add that today as well. A 660' foot track could allow those with 1 in tracks to catch up to those with big lug tracks. Make it better for those that can only afford one track and that is the track that came stock on there sled. As for lanes. Definately you need 4 of them. Top 2 advance. Run all the heats in all the classes first and then start over with the semi's and then the finals.

How far are you racing 500 or 660ft?
Do picked tracks run rubber tracks?
What class is the RX-1 in?
I know acouple of sleds that would go.
thanks

4 lanes...top two advance.....3rd and 4th on the trailer......

660' track (smaller lugs can catch bigger fans)

Tuners choice as to what size of rubber to run

Continue doing tech FAIR and THOROUGH....less cheaters = more good-time racers coming out

I like the way the classes were run right through to the end, cuz you could keep track of a certain sled right to the finals HOWEVER.....by the time the 700-800 classes start the track is chewed up.....and the 900 guys really have a tuff start line.....so not sure about this, both have good and bad points....

Thats just my humble opinion for future consideration

Track

i was just reviewing the race sheets and noticed there was no stockers enterd into the mod class so what do you guys think of having it on the river and stockers will race on snow and we'll keep moving the track so it's good all the time and then let the mods go on ice after the stockers finish /since all the mods had needles and chisels anyway what do you guys think /so i can get the ball rolling and the posters made up although we'll use two lanes again but have the race start earlier and have a race board for all to see ??????????????

But if you end up with the same turnout as last week you'll still make the race twice as long as it should be with 2 lanes...it was over 7 hrs long ! (racing started just before 1pm and ran untill after 8pm)
Sounds like most want 4 lanes.
You could set-up for 4 lanes and run two if you have way less sleds show up...and if that's the case you'll have 2 extra fresh lanes that can be used for the bigger sleds to run on once the 5-6-7's are done.

The 2 lane system is by far the best way to judge a finish line ,,,,,one person can do that,,,,,, when you have a 4 lane system you need atleast 4 judges and one video camera to be fair. Hosting a bigger event does require more help. The 2 lane system is ok for about 50 sleds in one day running 3 classes per sled,,, that's about 75 races in the first round!

In a true double knock out the winner of the B side must race the the winner of the A till someone loses 2 races. This did not happen at the last race.

Barrett and Dean. If you put races on March 12, people will come. Dont worry about turn out, as long as it doesnt conflict with another race you will have a good turn out. I know I will be there this time.

4 lanes vs 2......do what ever you can. If you can make a good 4 lane track then do it. Top 2 advance and like others said, run all the first round heats first so that the 900 cc sleds arent waiting till 7:30 pm to start racing!!

If you do the 2 lane system allow starting line advancement as much as possible cuz you are running twice the normal amount of races on those 2 lanes.

A board is a must. That way people can see when they race and be ready in the pitts as aposed to trying to hear their names called over a bunch of running sleds.

Try and have someone at the finish line with a big number 1 and a big number 2 and have them walk into the appropriate lane. That way spectators and racers will know who did what.

Do pre registration. That way people only have to come and pay in the morning and thats it! That way starting on time should be no problem and the board can be temporarily drawn up the night before.

From what I have heard, your tech was good and do that again. If people are still bitching at the end of the races about a sled, tell them to offer up $200 and then a tear down will take place.

If you guys want help with phone calls or pre reg or anything, let me know. I would be happy to help out in one way or another.


No matter how its done, I think the bottom line is that people want races to race at, so go ahead and book it!!!!


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