ps rage
Feb 13 2005, 10:15 AM
Had fours friends go to quebec last weekend. They left here sunday moring 6 hour ride. Left to ride on monday. Rode 85 miles . Had lunch. Say his sled sitting on the hill all during lunch. By the time he paid for lunch & got outside he sled was stolen. Why do peole do this This was a new 2005 Rev 600 sdi renegade. Money does not go on trees we all work hard for our money. So we can buy things to enjoy & this happens. Is the way you treat your fellow snowmobilers.
SXR-600 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
scubasteve
Feb 13 2005, 10:43 AM
I had to vote "other" because what they did is not describable. People like that deserve to have their balls chopped off, put in a blender under puree and then forced up their ass with pneumatic pressure until the pureed shit comes out of their sniveling nose & mouth. People like that deserve to be Bubba's Bitch for a time period of no less than 50 years. What part of "if it's not yours, don't touch it" don't these pricks understand!! :frech32: So sorry about the loss. Hope it gets recovered in 1 piece.
316duke
Feb 13 2005, 12:59 PM
find them and chop there hands off let them bleed to death real slow
polaris4me
Feb 13 2005, 01:13 PM
QUOTE(SXR 600 @ Feb 13 2005, 11:15 AM)
Had fours friends go to quebec last weekend. They left here sunday moring 6 hour ride. Left to ride on monday. Rode 85 miles . Had lunch. Say his sled sitting on the hill all during lunch. By the time he paid for lunch & got outside he sled was stolen. Why do peole do this This was a new 2005 Rev 600 sdi renegade. Money does not go on trees we all work hard for our money. So we can buy things to enjoy & this happens. Is the way you treat your fellow snowmobilers.
SXR-600 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
To steel someone's sled, that is not a fellow snowmobiler.....that is a jacka**

You don't do that to a true fellow snowmobiler. Hope they catch him
schu
Feb 13 2005, 01:26 PM
That is the horrible ,if they are found they should be dragged behind the snowmobile for the whole weekend
ultra man
Feb 13 2005, 05:57 PM
this is terrible and unacceptable i have been snowmobiling in quebec for close to twenty years. sled theft from us citizens is very popular, it is a multi million dollar busisness not only will they steal your sled , most of the time they will take your vehicle to! my friend had this done to him over $60,000.00 dollars worth of equipment vanished while he was eating dinner the scum of the earth stikes again!!
bill367
Feb 13 2005, 06:18 PM
Ive heard nothin but bad from riding there I heard the country is beautiful and 99 percent of the people are fantatic...its a shame that you hear more about the 1 percent that isnt...I wont go there to ride.
smclelan
Feb 13 2005, 06:25 PM
Its hard to believe how many sleds seem to get stolen in PQ every winter. I was up last winter in the Lac St. Jean region and one of the sleds in our group was stolen from an enclosed parking corral. When the police arrived they told us it was the third one stolen in the city that weekend. I am not sure if it is not a high priority with them or if it is just so hard to police.
bill367
Feb 13 2005, 07:30 PM
Alot of the reason why is the bulk of the sleds stolen are from tourists up there for the riding...So why should the police care...your not there to hound them...It hurts the local business somewhat but plenty of people go there to ride so it apparently is not tremondously detrimental to their economy or something would be done...A friend of mine was up there and his sled was stolen...when he went back into the restaurant it was stolen outside of to report it he was told that it could be reported or for 500.00 U.S. it might be located in a day or two...He got his sled back but who needs the aggravation and who wants to pay an xtra 500.00 for a sled they own...
Guyzoun
Feb 13 2005, 08:24 PM
Hey guys,
Whenever you stop, pls park your sleds side by side and lock them around the skis spindle.
We do that all the time at the end of day when we park our sleds for the day. We should do it as well at lunch time...
I got my Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 stolen with 5000 km.
"Quebec I Remember"
Guy
bgbytoys
Feb 14 2005, 10:43 AM
us customs said to us that 1 out of 10 trucks is getting stolen this year. i believe that is a little high but if it is 1 out of 50 it still makes for a bad day. this week my friends durmax got taken with a 4 place trailer. last week same place 5 sleds, 2 weeks before that 2 sleds. it happened at motel st come and the restaurant there.
Mainecat
Feb 14 2005, 11:00 AM
If they let you carry a sidearm in Canada that wouldn't happen anymore.
ZR1000
Feb 14 2005, 12:03 PM
QUOTE(Mainecat @ Feb 14 2005, 12:00 PM)
If they let you carry a sidearm in Canada that wouldn't happen anymore.
You need to see them to shoot them, and if they could be seen stealing the stuff, they'd probably be caught/interupted. :frech32:
Lock'em up or lose them, and don't park on a snowbank and make it that much easier for them to take your hard earned property.
Was the sled in the corral locked to another sled?
Just my .02 :div20:
bgbytoys
Feb 14 2005, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(ZR1000 @ Feb 14 2005, 01:03 PM)
.
Was the sled in the corral locked to another sled?
Just my .02 :div20:
these people were traveling and only stopped for dinner.
ZR1000
Feb 14 2005, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(bgbytoys @ Feb 14 2005, 01:50 PM)
these people were traveling and only stopped for dinner.
Its a damn shame, but i carry a throttle lock and a hardened chain in my trunk(takes less than two minutes to lock it up). You just never know and I don't wanna find out the hard way.
Mainecat
Feb 14 2005, 01:47 PM
Yeah but if the crooks "THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE ARMED" they would think twice.
They know no Canadian or anyone else can carry a sidearm in Canada.
Thats the problem.
Maine is big enough to ride without going over the border.
chaseme
Feb 15 2005, 08:22 AM
I had one of my sleds stolen in Canada about 3 years ago . I was stupid enough not to have locked it . Since then my sled has no less than one lock on it . We rate each place we go into as a 1 , 2 or 3 lock establishment . The more the better . I love riding in Canada and will not let some ass ruin that for me . After hearing about trucks being stolen , I'm nervouse about bringing my good truck up there . I try to find the hotels with security for truck and sled . Anything I can do not to become a victim again .
There is no worse feeling than coming home from a great trip and only your buddies sled is on the trailer . Trust no one up in Canada . They will steal your shorts if you let them . :frech32:
patg85
Feb 15 2005, 08:50 PM
Good Point, I was up in Saint Come after Christmas, my friend from Plattsburgh came up to ride with me in Saint Donat area.. We were there for 1 hour in the afternoon on a Sunday and his sled was stolen.. The worst part of it is that he had $3,000 in aftermarket parts on it, it had 200 miles on it brand new...
journeyjohn
Feb 15 2005, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(chaseme @ Feb 15 2005, 09:22 AM)
. Trust no one up in Canada . They will steal your shorts if you let them . :frech32:

Stupid comment........ :bigfinger:
journeyjohn
Feb 15 2005, 10:19 PM
QUOTE(Mainecat @ Feb 14 2005, 02:47 PM)
Yeah but if the crooks "THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE ARMED" they would think twice.
They know no Canadian or anyone else can carry a sidearm in Canada.
Thats the problem.
You think if your carrying a gun they won't steal your truck :banghead: " What if they're armed" you gonna have a good ol' fashion shoot-out. :zzz:
It happens everywhere not just Quebec. :drunk:
§tylus
Feb 16 2005, 04:14 PM
I'm tired of this "it happens everywhere crap", because it doesn't. I normaly stay out of these Quebec topics but I must chime in. I've never had anything stolen in Vermont. I don't lock anything here, but when I ride in Quebec I have to pull the fuse out of my truck and lock everything. I even put a wheel lock on my trailer. It's sad the police in Quebec can't stop the madness up there!!! My cousin just lost her car shopping for the day up there last summer. I personaly know too many people who've been riped off in Quebec. I don't , personaly, know a single person to have thier truck or sled stolen in VT. The facts are the facts.
journeyjohn
Feb 16 2005, 07:00 PM
QUOTE(§tylus @ Feb 16 2005, 05:14 PM)
I'm tired of this "it happens everywhere crap", because it doesn't. I normaly stay out of these Quebec topics but I must chime in. I've never had anything stolen in Vermont. I don't lock anything here, but when I ride in Quebec I have to pull the fuse out of my truck and lock everything. I even put a wheel lock on my trailer. It's sad the police in Quebec can't stop the madness up there!!! My cousin just lost her car shopping for the day up there last summer. I personaly know too many people who've been riped off in Quebec. I don't , personaly, know a single person to have thier truck or sled stolen in VT. The facts are the facts.
Those are your facts. Anyway if you don't want anything stolen stay home.
quebec #2
Feb 16 2005, 11:34 PM
you americans and your side arms make me nervous maybe you should stay home with your way of thinking. I guess there is a reason why 10,000 people died from guns last year from guns and only 300 in Canada, so please stay home with your side arms :beerchug:
quebec #2
Feb 16 2005, 11:37 PM
All Americans welcome just leave the guns at home.
quebec#1
Feb 16 2005, 11:49 PM
QUOTE(quebec #2 @ Feb 17 2005, 12:34 AM)
you americans and your side arms make me nervous maybe you should stay home with your way of thinking. I guess there is a reason why 10,000 people died from guns last year from guns and only 300 in Canada, so please stay home with your side arms :beerchug:
I know what would your answer to the problem is ! :share_doobie: :fluffy:
marcopolomxzx
Feb 17 2005, 08:42 AM
I was at daytona beach 2 year ago and someone steal my new truck chevy avalanche with new enclosed trailer and v- rod so everywere you go is same fuc... shit no only in canada by away if you carry sidearm and you shot this mother fuc.. you will be out for next 25 year so thing twice before some thing bad gun is for hunting that all
Hert3
Feb 18 2005, 08:27 AM
Just wondering........If theft of U.S. sleds in Quebec is not a priority with Law Enforcement, I would guess that a snowmobile boycot (by U.S. riders) for a season or two might make a difference. They don't have a problem taking our vacation dollars (and our equipment) why help them?
Hert3
Feb 18 2005, 03:47 PM
I'm not trying to paint Canadians with a broad brush.(My father was born in Canada and has dual citizenship) And I know there are sled thefts anywhere you go, but I've heard of higher numbers and bolder theivery (i.e. trucks and trailers) in Quebec more than any place else.
Let's face it, were it not for snowmobile tourism many of the business's in the lodging and restaurant sectors would be significantly harmed. We are a huge economic boost where-ever we choose to go and whomever we choose to patronize. I live in Michigan and were it not for snowmobilers and their winter tourism dollars most of the Upper Peninsula would fold up until May.
What I'm saying is if there is such a high risk of losing your equipment and a low priority of enforcement why go there! I had a friend in Canada share some thought's on this subject with me. Many folks other than those directly involved in tourism see American's coming accross the boarder with new trucks big trailers and expensive sleds as just a bunch of rich, spoiled bast*@#s. When someone gets something stolen 9 times out of 10 it's an "American" and it's not a big deal to the local, besides all you "Americans" are insured, just go get new stuff. With this kind of an attitude Mr. Joe Quebec may not be directly helping his buddy steal our stuff but he really has no motivation to help stop it either. Until a city, community, or provence feels they have more to loose economically there will be ambivilence.
johnnyskidoo
Feb 18 2005, 10:11 PM
We had our enclosed two place trailer with 2 Skidoos in it stolen in St. Foy after trailering for 10 hours from Ontario. They cut the lock right off the trailer. Never got any of it back. Week long holiday was ruined. Year before they stole my buddy's Yukon. Ran into some guys from Pennsylvania last weekend in Timmins. They stole his Denali last year and 2 sleds the year before that. Said he would NEVER go back to Quebec ever again. He trailered instead 11 hours to Sudbury Ontario. The bastards see an Ontario licence plate or US and steal you blind! Too bad. Beautiful trails. Cops do nothing. Sleds were insured but he trailer was not. Too many claims like that and you can't afford the insurance even if they'll give it to you. It's gotta hurt the businesses eventually.
Hert3
Feb 18 2005, 10:26 PM
That's my point! Until the business community in Quebec takes a BIG HIT nothing will change. I worked in the law enforcement community a number of years ago and when high value items like Trucks, Trailers, and sleds go missing, especially in the numbers that people are reporting, task force's are formed. I'd be curious to hear what provincial law enforcement has to say and what kind of service people received when they reported the theft's to the local police. I'm guessing the response was "underwhelming".
I think the snowmobile media should start putting the word out and focusing on some of these problem locations. Nothing like a little "light" on the dirt so you can clean up the floor!
johnnyskidoo
Feb 19 2005, 08:57 AM
I agree. Something needs to be done. Nobody is being proactive on this.. Cops come, fill out a report and thats the end of it. Even they said that there is virtually no chance of getting anything back. However, leaving though next Friday for Quebec City - riding to Bae Commeau and taking the ferry to Gaspe - 8 guys - one week - bringing Python cable locks, trailer wheel clamps, will pull something out of the trucks so they wont run, etc. Not going to take any chances. I wish we had some Quebec plates to put on them - they dont seem to steal from their own. Guess we better cable lock them all together even when we go into a restaurant to eat just in case. The Gaspe is quite a bit safer though than other areas of Quebec - never had a problem there. All we can do is hope the trucks and trailers are still there in Quebec City when we get back a week later - 2 new Dodge Rams - one Hemi, one Diesel and a new F250 Crew - all with enclosed trailers! Otherwise - phone call home to say we're taking another week off and riding them back to Ontario!
Hert3
Feb 19 2005, 11:20 AM
Better "Steal" a couple of Quebec plates and put them on your vehicle.
For a little humor take an expired Ontario or US plate, find a nicly equiped Quebec plated truck pulling a trailer and swap plates. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
journeyjohn
Feb 19 2005, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(Hert3 @ Feb 19 2005, 12:20 PM)
Better "Steal" a couple of Quebec plates and put them on your vehicle.
For a little humor take an expired Ontario or US plate, find a nicly equiped Quebec plated truck pulling a trailer and swap plates. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
:smilielol: :smilielol:
Sled Dog
Feb 19 2005, 09:56 PM
Now I'm worried!

I already went to Quebec to ride and was thinking of going for another 5 day trip. Nothing bad happened the first time but with my black cloud I guess I will have to be extra careful. Makes me kinda glad I have a older sled.
Good info! :beer2:
Slammedretro7
Feb 20 2005, 09:42 PM
If someone stole my sleds and i found them...i would do the chinese water torture.
:beerchug:
marcopolomxzx
Feb 21 2005, 07:14 PM
i`m agree with fact in quebec is more that any place to steal trucks but thing we dont khow is 60 % of dose truck get stolen is for parts and 40% entire trucks go back to US or major port to be ship oversea i hear some story someone take truck from quebec drive to US border cross`it to port of miami load to contener get is paid and came back by flying so I hate this but is true quebec is worse place to lost your truck,
johnnyskidoo
Feb 21 2005, 07:52 PM
Some of us own / work at car dealerships. We are going to take dealer plates along that we can take off and we have already called a fellow dealer in Quebec who is sending us some old Quebec plates to put on. Also, we will disable the trucks so they will not run even they they try. Thirdly, the trailers (3 enclosed) will have wheel clamps, Python cables and tongue locks. I guess if they still want our stuff they will get it but the idea is to make it easier to take someone elses stuff. Don't take any chances, even if just stopping at a restaurant for lunch - lock em up!
BillA
Feb 21 2005, 08:43 PM
after reading all this, i will never ride up in Canada, too much to lose and for what, a few days good riding, well i can get good riding in NH, or VT or Maine, and i have even left my keys in my truck in NH, and very rarely pull the keys or cord from my doos, never have i had a problem, but i will start disabling my sleds and lock my truck, the biggest thing that got me was the guys from up there with the i dont give a sh-- attitude where Americans are concerned, i for one would not want to see anyone lose a sled or truck, i dont care where they are from, and as someone said, tourism is what keeps the hotels and such alive, if they only had to rely on the people in their area they would go under, so i think a boycott of riding up there might wake them up, let them suffer for a year and see if the owners of these places dont start making a stink and wake up the cops and make them do their job
Hert3
Feb 21 2005, 09:22 PM
Thanks MARCOPOLOMXZX for being honest in your admission. It does'nt matter where the vehicles end up, wheather it's at a chop shop or on a container ship. The bottom line is it happens with alot of people looking the other way. Again I'm not trying to Tar and Feather an entire province or people, but these problems do not happen down here in the snowbelt of the States to the extent that they take place in Quebec. I'd really be angry if Canadians came to the U.S. to spend their hard earned dollars and Americans ripped them off, particularly because they were from Canada.
All of us need to be vigilant in policeing our own communities to keep the bad actors from screwing it up for the rest of us.
zoso
Mar 5 2005, 06:51 PM
Click to view attachmentWow, don't think i'll be headin east to QC anytime soon. Luckily we have awesome trails and lotsa snow right here in Coniston (Sudbury Ont.) I think anyone who steels anything from someone should get a minimum of 2 years less a day that would cut back on theft. Right now these a--h--es get a slap on the wrist and half the time no restitution is enforced. The courts have to wake up and realize how hard we all work to have things and the employment created when someone spend thousands of $$s on sleds etc. only to be ripped off by the lowlife scum.
johnnyskidoo
Mar 5 2005, 09:09 PM
Well, just got back...1,653 miles in 7 days. It was great. Eight guys, 3 trucks and trailers. Nothing got stolen this time but we locked everything up really well. TONS of snow in the Gaspe!
Hert3
Mar 5 2005, 10:15 PM
Glad to hear you came home with everything. Sounds like an awesome ride :div20:
CPGf6
Mar 21 2005, 07:36 PM
Personally, I think it is bad that we need throtle locks or any other locks. But that is what this world has come to. The poeple that steal the sleds should be shot in the leg and let them bleed to death. They are idiots screwing up our fun.
POLARISGUY900
Apr 24 2005, 10:48 AM
3holercat
Apr 29 2005, 10:47 AM
maybe we could have a little hcs get toghter, we could plant a few lowjack tracers and stake it out. follow them to there hideout and go after the gun toteing outlaws with our picks and shovels.
sounds to me the orginazied thieft ring has the cops in there pocket.
zoom1200
Apr 29 2005, 05:55 PM
Total low life scumbags.
were the hell are all the sleds and parts going.
I guess it comes down to locking up everything tight and knowing where the used parts are comming from before u buy them...
samsara
Apr 29 2005, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(zoom1200 @ Apr 29 2005, 07:55 PM)
Total low life scumbags.
were the hell are all the sleds and parts going.
I guess it comes down to locking up everything tight and knowing where the used parts are comming from before u buy them...
BOYCOTT!
im2fast4u520
Oct 1 2005, 08:04 AM
they cant afford 2 buy there own sled so they have 2 go steal som1 else's
ZLZEBUB
Oct 28 2005, 01:38 PM
after reading all these ... i gotta tell ya...i've seen this pattern before...and i'm not sayin this is the case but..............we encountered the same thing, and i found out years later that it was several locals/bartender/policeman team.....its too odd that they keep stealing an ENORMOUS AMOUNT and never even get seen...once...hhhmmmmmm. we PAID em to sit and watch the building after a fire, when we got back...fridges were gone, stoves...heavy shit....nobody saw a thing....sems like you got the same problem because you say it happens EVEN IN THE LOCKED AREA......thats why i suspect an insider....start askin around for used parts...thats how i found out the cops were involved...i bought my own USED STOVE back and noticed it was the same one...i'd go lookin for sleds and parts in the area...ask around alot....usually somebody always says ..hey i know whos got some hot er cheap parts..then focus on that clown and his buddies...process of elimination :div20:
stevefromwestford
Oct 28 2005, 01:40 PM
QUOTE(smclelan @ Feb 13 2005, 08:25 PM)
Its hard to believe how many sleds seem to get stolen in PQ every winter. I was up last winter in the Lac St. Jean region and one of the sleds in our group was stolen from an enclosed parking corral. When the police arrived they told us it was the third one stolen in the city that weekend. I am not sure if it is not a high priority with them or if it is just so hard to police.

it is not a high priority for them , if your not from PQ they dont give a damn if ya sled was stolen, been like that for yrs
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