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Where exactly is Tug Hill in NY? I've been reading and it seems like lots of people ride there.. Is this an amazing riding place or what? Is it just trails or is there alot of backcountry and ungroomed logging roads? Just wonderin what all the fuss is about this Tug Hill place....
NY_SXR700
Tug Hill is a 2,100 square mile, rural and remote region of New York State located between Lake Ontario and the Adirondacks. The region is heavily forested and receives the heaviest snowfall in the eastern United States. The headwaters of several major rivers spring from the region's core forests. The region consists of 41 towns (containing 21 villages) in portions of Jefferson, Lewis, Oneida, and Oswego counties. With just over 100,000 people, about 50 people per square mile, one of Tug Hill's most notable characteristics is its relative lack of people. A satellite image illustrates the remoteness of the region.

http://www.snowmobileny.com/

http://www.tughill.org/RegionalMapgif.htm

Just a hoot to ride up there.
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Paul Smiths isn't to far from that area huh? Do the trails get pretty beat up or what, seems like everyone rides there even though not many people live there...
snowman-F7
Tug Hill averages 250 plus inches of snow a year. When other parts of NY don't have snow, most will travel the 2-3 hours to ride there. Many even stay up there every weekend in their cabins or hotels. If ya ride during the weekdays, you'll ride on perfectly smooth trails. When the weekend comes, you can expect heavy traffic. But there are times when most of NY has great snow coverage, and in those cases you'll see alittle traffic. Since you might be living up there, it will be easy for ya to head out and bomb the trails all night. Paul Smiths is a good school with some great programs.
pjameven
great place to ride.....especially during the week!! the clubs do a fairly good job with grooming...on the weekend there are a lot of us riding the hill which sometimes makes for a rough ride home on saturday nite!! when other places don't have snow, they have snow there!! :div20:
nm3
My two favorite places to ride are Tug Hill and Trail 7 starting in Lake Clear.
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good to hear guys.... seeing over 20 feet of snow would be pretty cool... after hearing that i'm assuming there is plenty of backcountry riding, what a NY nonres. sticker cost these days? man that sounds like an awesome place..
NY_SXR700
click on this link http://www.sohonetworkx.com play the fall brook video and you can see how much snow falls. My friend is one of the owners of the Fall Brook Fish and Game Club in Osceola, NY. We go up there almost every weekend unless Rochester has good riding. Joe from Cedar Pines is driving the new groomer and had to leave the trails and take the road home because the snow was coming over hte top of the blade when it was in the up position. We got about 3.5' of snow over night. Our biggest snow fall was 84" in two days. Doug
toohotty
Not a lot of back country, ungroomed stuff. You ride a alot on seasonal roads that are not plowed in the winter. Plenty wide enough and I agree that the mid week riding is second to none. Weekends around Flat Rock and Timberview get quite crowded especially if there is no snow anywhere else. Lot of nice trails out near Osceola and Redfield. Plenty of places to get a good meal. The Montague Inn has great burgers!
See ya in the winter!
Fast Rider
So anyone know how much for the nonres. registration?
snowman-F7
Same as the resident ones...$45. There are no non-resident or resident registration stickers. New York state uses $35 dollars for trails and $10 for administration cost. The only place you have to pay extra for trail riding is in the Old Forge area. Other then that, your NY reg is good for anywhere in NY.
polarisledneck
the Hill has so many different types of riding conditions on it which makes it so good you'll just keep comming back. Deep powder, flat open fields, winding narrow trails, and long lakes will keep you smiling allday and nite. Plenty of good rest stops also. Go during the week and you will love it! And talk about snow, New Years weekend a few years ago we had 9+ feet of snow in a little over 2 days. Everybody wished they had a long track!
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Great to hear that guys.. i like the fact that there isn't a nonres sticker, $45 bucks isn't bad at all.. o polarissledneck- great to hear about all the differeent riding.. Who knows maybe I'll end up out there for a while... 4 years for college... have to see what happens theres still alot of time until then...
Thanks TJ
renegadeoffunk
QUOTE(NY_SXR700 @ Oct 15 2004, 07:42 AM)
click on this link http://www.sohonetworkx.com play the fall brook video and you can see how much snow falls. My friend is one of the owners of the Fall Brook Fish and Game Club in Osceola, NY. We go up there almost every weekend unless Rochester has good riding. Joe from Cedar Pines is driving the new groomer and had to leave the trails and take the road home because the snow was coming over hte top of the blade when it was in the up position. We got about 3.5' of snow over night. Our biggest snow fall was 84" in two days.   Doug
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What a sweet video!!!! Not long now before we see heavy snow again!!!! :celebrating:
snowman1
The only thing that the local clubs (who do all the maintaining of the trails on Tug Hill) ask of out-of-the-area riders is that you join at least one club. That way, you are doing your part in thanking at least one of these hard working clubs for all that they do.
If more people don't join clubs (only 27% of all NYS snowmobilers currently join at least 1 club per year), then the state legislature is going to be asked by NYSSA to raise the fee AGAIN this coming season. The rate being discussed will be $100.00 per sled, but here's the kicker...snowmobile club members will get a DISCOUNT of $55.00 on each of the sleds that they own. So, it takes you back to this year's rate, as long as you joined a club,... so might as well start this year!
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ya, NH has a system like that where if your in a club the reg. is reduced... but not by 55 dollars....
Thanks for the info TJ
snowman1
PROX...what is the registration fee in NH and how much is the discount?

If NY even goes to, say, $75.00 with a discount of $30.00 per sled, that will bring it back to where it is now. I am for it 100%.
I belong to 2 clubs (and I don't "just belong", I volunteer quite a bit more than most for both of them) and know numerous people that enjoy the trails while not joining even one! The trails are being groomed, the signs are being bought, the bridges/culverts are being built, and so on...all on the backs and wallets of the snowmobile club members in NY. It's time for the rest of the NYS snowmobilers to wake up and see what they have in front of them and join the club in their local area or where they ride the most. Yes, clubs do get some reimbursement from the state from the registration portion called the trail fund. But thats not enough to adequately do what riders demand on the trails AND upgrade to newer equipment.
asnowmobiler
QUOTE(nm3 @ Oct 14 2004, 06:27 PM)
My two favorite places to ride are Tug Hill and Trail 7 starting in Lake Clear.
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Where is lake clear??
catcando
lake clear is in adirondacks. Way upstate, but try this link to check out Charlies Inn.

http://www.newyorksnowmobiling.com/
asnowmobiler
Thanks!!!
Slammedretro7
Trail C7 in lake clear is awesome, its a powerlines trail most of the time, its straight, flat, and wide, its incredible, you can play in powder if you want or you can just hustle 80MPH++ through the trails.
thomasjd100
QUOTE(soldd @ Nov 14 2004, 12:20 PM)
Trail C7 in lake clear is awesome, its a powerlines trail most of the time, its straight, flat, and wide, its incredible, you can play in powder if you want or you can just hustle 80MPH++ through the trails.
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"powerlines" should be "rail bed".
nm3
QUOTE(thomasjd100 @ Nov 15 2004, 02:30 PM)
"powerlines" should be "rail bed".
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Isn't it both rail bed and powerlines?
riverrat
I love that trail, C7. I run it often from Bellys to Stillwater and around. Lots of fun.
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