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DNR says deer run down
by snowmobilersLast Edited: Sunday, 11 Jan 2009, 5:13 PM CST
Created On: Sunday, 11 Jan 2009, 11:36 AM CST

Robert Hornacek
TOWN OF LIND - A farm field in the town of Lind in Waupaca county turned into a killing field.

"It was obvious snowmobilers were running them down from behind," said Randal Yorkson, who farms the property along a snowmobile trail in Waupaca County, near County Highway EE. On Saturday morning, his son found several dead deer.

"One, after it was on the ground, looked like snowmobilers parked on top of it and just gunned the snowmobile and tore the stomach right open of the deer," Yorkson said.

The Department of Natural Resources is investigating the case.

"It appears to me they were going around and rounding them up and trying to push them toward the center to make it easier," said warden Ted Dremel.

"Many of them had broken legs, hair and what not was missing off the deer. You could see where snowmobile tracks drove right over the top of them," Dremel said.

The warden said three deer were dead in the field, a fourth was alive but had broken legs so he euthanized it. A fifth deer was found several hours later dead, tied to tree. Dremel said the deer was likely tied to the tree while it was still alive.

"We believe they dragged it from that field and tied it to this tree," Dremel said. "Absolutely needless."

The woman who owns the property is so upset about what happened that has temporarily shut down the snowmobile trail.

"I really couldn't believe that someone could be so malicious to animals," said Virginia Niemuth. "They were maliciously run over and dragged by the snowmobiles. They were skinned alive you might say."

Niemuth said she will re-open the trail, but only after the people responsible for this are captured. "They need a trail but when things like this happen you can't keep it open," Niemuth said.

The president of the County Line Trail Blazers snowmobile club is also angry about what happened. Stuart McIntyre said about five miles of a major trail are now closed. "Unfortunately it just takes a couple individuals to ruin it for everybody," McIntyre said.

Snowmobilers are not blaming the property owner, they blame whoever used the trail to slaughter five deer.

If you have any information about the incident you're urged to call the Department of Natural Resources at 1-800-TIP-WDNR. Callers can remain anonymous.

The County Line Trail Blazers and Waupaca County Snowmobile Association are both offering rewards in the case. Right now the reward totals $3,000.

I dont recall reading this but the news said she will not OPEN the trail until the people who did this turn themselves in or are found!!!

No wonder why snowmobiling gets a bad rap.. Honestly how stupid

Now thanks to these jack@$$es (which is putting it lightly) the rest of us snowmobilers: a) lose what sounds like a major trail, and b) guess what the general public who don't own snowmobiles thinks of us. And that is before you get into the bigger issue of animal cruelity. Completely and utterly frustrating to say the least.

Another bunch of dumb ass idiots ruining it for the people who love and respect the sport. WTF were these assholes thinking??? This is the stupid crap peta loves to get involved with also.

That was on the local news here in Green Bay

Honestly i am speechless - WHY ??? What enjoyment would come out of this

How does this go on without any witnesses ??? To doo all that damage , you would think took sime time - Someone had to have seen something - Damaged sleds

Daytime ? Nightime ?

This state has enough of a blackeye with sledding and drinking and how many deaths this year

Makes me sick to my stomach - Man i hope someone comes forward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just watched it on the local channel 2 news - Was one of the top stories at 10pm

One of the things that stood out at the end

DNR said - "Other land owners are catching wind of this and thinking about closing down there trails also" something along those lines

Not good - Not good at all

WTF?!?!?!?
I don't blame any landowner for doing what she did, in fact, I don't know if I would ever trust a snowmobiler if I was her.
Someone has to know something about this. This is a criminal matter. What if someone did that with any motorized vehicle?
Apparently, there is more than one snowmobile involved and the DNR/Cops should be able to at least check the tracks and determine what type of track was used to do the damage. Also if one deer was tied to a tree there must be footprints somewhere. I would never imagine someone even thinking of doing this.

I sure would hope & think who ever is involed, is going to get caught. Hope they get to room with Mike Vick.

I sure hope who ever did this get caught and punshied to the fullest extent of the law. Who ever did it has no respect for there sled, the trail system or animals. If it was a group of people some one will talk $3000 is alot of money to someone who is broke.

Kill those mother f-er's when they find them!!!

$4,000 in rewards for information leading to the arrest of those responsible.

They are going to get these low lifes

On the www.johndee.com website in the Discussion Board area under Miscellaneous is a thread that mentions of getting something set up for donations towards the reward if anyone is interested.

Thread title is "Wanted for Prosecution"

That is absolutely brutal... Breaking deers legs and running them over until they die??? WTF is wrong with some people.
I cant even imagine the mindset of someone tying a deer with broken legs to a tree just for kicks.

Folks, in order to save our trail systems, we need to take it upon ourselves to police the trails when we are out there. We cannot rely on local law enforcement to do it. If you see someone doing something that they aren't supposed too, all you need is their registration number. You don't even have to confront them ( that would be hard for me to do). Just get the registration number and call it in.

The main problem where I ride is people riding off of the trails. I see evidence of this all the time and we are losing trails because of it. I only hope it is the farmer's kid out riding around in the fields, but I highly doubt it. When you see crap like this, get a registration number. What you may be saving, is the trail you ride on.

We have a few individuals that are going to bring this sport down unless we work together to stop it.

Riding off trail is what really pissed me off. If there is a sign stay on trail or new seeding whatever, it seems even more of these idiots go riding off trail. This deer thing is just sickening. I hope they get them................

yeah. before law enforcement officials get these guys, they should be tied to a groomer and paraded around, allowing anyone with a valid snowmobile registration to smack them across the face with a shaper bar, so everyone can see that the snowmobile community is just as disgusted by them as any other group.

i hope they run their mouth in a bar somewhere and they all end up in comas, or better....laying in a snowbank somewhere in the same condition that they left the deer in.

can't wait to here from PETA on this

We should all help run that reward up. Send 5 bucks if you can. I did. Lets see that reward get to 7 or 8K. Someone will talk.

I hope they lose every privelidge with regards to the DNR forever. NO hunting, no fishing, no boating, no atv, no sledding..nothing. Forever.

Someone suggested writing a letter to the landowner expressing how the real snowmobiling community feels. If it can be done digitally, I'll sign it in a second. I can't express how sorry that I am that these idiots did this.

Should have a real bloody sled with a lot of hair on it. Not easy to clean too. Hope everyone keeps an eye and an ear out for this pricks. Once their names come out and their addresses get posted, let's see how good they sleep.

Probably done at night I would think, too much risk for someone to come along during the day and be able to identify them.

Video from the site



Investigators have no suspects. Some snowmobile clubs have offered $4,000 in rewards for information leading to arrests, Dremel said. Information can be phoned into the DNR's tip line at 1-800-TIP-WDNR.

Taken from John Dee's site.

"I talked with Bob Springer the president from the Waupaca County Snowmobile Association at noon today!
They are pulling out all the stops to get these people. He also said donations for the reward fund are pouring in.

If you want to make a donation to the reward fund, here is the addy:
Bob Springer (WCSA)
P.O. Box 312
Marion Wi, 54950

If you would like to contact him his cell number is 715-853-7579 or office 715-754-5923"

Lets catch these pricks.

Anyway too make donations online ??????

Lets not drop the ball on this we need to keep all the heat we can on these bastards. These sick fu**s have as sick sence of humor.

Agreed. The faster they are caught and delt with the better for us all!!!!!!!

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shouldn't be too hard for the club to set up a paypal account. i will donate. and tonight will hit my buds up for some cash too. we snowmobiliers pay thousands of dollars for machines......spend hundreds for gas in a seasons......hundreds for lodging throughout the year. shouldn't be to hard for anyone to throw a $10 or $20 to do try to save the last bit of dignity our sport has in the eyes of the public. the landowners that allow us to use their property deserve the best we got right now.

lets get it done.

We need to go back to an EYE for an EYE! That is crazy and hopefully one will open their mouth and we can let the DNR go crazy on them. No reason to do that at all! Makes me sick.

I was going to say that..

Please spread the word to every snowmobiler U know Let's get the reward Way Up to show much us responsible snowmobilers really care.
Here is the message on Waupaca County web site.
The Wisconsin DNR and Waupaca County Sheriff's Dept. are looking for information regarding the recent killing of deer by snowmobilers in the Town of Lind.
If you have any information about the incident you're urged to call the DNR at 1-800-TIP-WDNR or Waupaca County Crime Stoppers at 1-888-258-9955. Callers can remain anonymous.
The Waupaca County Snowmobile Assoc. and County Line Trail Blazers are both offering rewards in this case
Thanks
B L Swan
Here is a copy of ane-mail I just recieved from the AWSC

The Officers, Directors and thousand's of the AWSC members - Association of Wisconsin Snowmobile Clubs are joining forces with other organizations in condemning the action of some misguided individuals which involves the running down of deer. We want these people arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of law and are pledging another $1000.00 to be added to the growing reward fund for information leading to the arrest of these individuals.
Please pass this message along to all clubs.
Thank you -

Bill Schumann
AWSC President

I just want to keep the address to send donations going along

If you want to make a donation to the reward fund, here is the address:
Bob Springer (WCSA)
P.O. Box 312
Marion Wi, 54950

If they got an email address for paypal we could pin it to the top of every forum on this site and the $$ would come POURING in.

I can not even imagine the mind set of these idiots. My dad told me about this at work this morning and I had not seen it. What in the hell would posess someone to do this. You guys are all right on one thing. If we take it upon ourseleves and help find these idiots we may be able to save some face with the community. That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have come acrossed in a long time. Stupid ass redneck hillbilly fucks! Thank you for yet another black eye on our beloved sport!!!

More tidbits of info I have heard and seen if not everybody has: The landowner is a 80 year old woman who was a life long snowmobiler. There were reports of people hearing snowmobiles in this area around 3:30 Saturday morning (nothing ever good happens at this time). WBAY ch. 2 of Green Bay just did their coverage and they went to one of the clubs in Waupaca County and basicly reported on if anyone wants to catch these people it is us snowmobilers and the snowmobile clubs of the county were "mad as hell" and they did a very good job reporting all the work club members put into the trails. A very good report telling the general public how the rest of us feel IMO.

The Winnebago Sno-Pioneers will be sending at least $100.00 if not more after our meeting. It’s time to catch them and make an example of them. Eye for an Eye would be a good start.

Didn't hear that. That just makes it worse. At first I thought it was likely some dumb young kids. 3:30 in the morning? If it was kids the parents should be charged too. If I saw that shit out in the field in front of my house there would be some loud bright flashes commin' from my window And it wouldn't be firecrackers!!! Have to show respect to be given respect IMHO

WAUSAU, Wis. — A group of snowmobilers in central Wisconsin herded and killed four deer and severely injured a fifth in what a warden today called a senseless act of cruelty.

No arrests have been made in the Saturday morning incident about five miles south of Waupaca, said Ted Dremel, a state Department of Natural Resources warden.

There's talk of closing all snowmobile trails in Waupaca County until the "rogue snowmobilers" are caught, he said.

"It is senseless. I don't know how else to describe it," Dremel said. "It is probably something they thought was fun or humorous at the time. They did purposely run over these deer. The tracks in the snow were in a circular manner, almost looking like they were chasing the deer back to other snowmobile partners."

Randy Yorkson, who farms the land, said people cannot believe what happened.

"I am going to guess it is somebody who left a bar. They probably had been using that trail before, knowing the deer were out there," he said. "This is just some yahoos who don't have any common sense."

Landowner Virginia Niemuth, 80, immediately shut off access to her property, closing five miles of the main snowmobile trail across Waupaca County.

"There's sick people out there," Niemuth said. "I used to love to snowmobile, but this is too much."

Dremel believes three or four snowmobiles were involved in a roundup of deer in a moonlit alfalfa field where 30 to 40 animals were known to feed. Witnesses reported


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hearing snowmobiles in the area about 3:30 a.m., he said.
Three deer were found dead in the field. A snowmobile stopped atop one and ripped open its stomach, Dremel said. A fourth deer with broken legs was euthanized.

The fifth deer was dragged from the field and tied to a tree about 25 feet from a road. Investigators think someone may have planned to return for that deer, Dremel said.

"It looked like the deer wrapped itself around the tree and choked itself to death," he said.

Dremel said he has never heard of this kind of "cowboy-style" attack on deer with snowmobiles.

"Usually, it is an accident — a deer standing in a trail and a snowmobiler can't avoid it," he said.

The dead deer included two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

Investigators have no suspects. Six snowmobile clubs have offered a combined $7,500 for information leading to arrests, Dremel said. The Waupaca County Crime Stoppers and Fox Valley Humane Association in Appleton also have offered rewards totaling $1,500.

Investigators have received some leads but none from a witness or someone who talked to anyone involved, Dremel said.

Information can be phoned into the DNR's tip line at 1-800-TIP-WDNR.

"This is not characteristic of the snowmobile community in Wisconsin," DNR Chief Warden Randy Stark said in Madison. "Obviously, we are looking to get any public assistance we can in identifying who is responsible for this."

I hope they lose all of their recreational privelages when they are caught.

WOW ! I am so shocked that anyone could commit an action as heinous as this, I am alsmost speachless. This is not a black eye, we just had both legs amputated.

I posted my contribution to the reward fund, I challenge everyuone to also contribute. Snowmobilers need to make sure that this does not go away quietly. I am sure the AWSC will make sure this effort gets publicity to make sure that everyone who snowmobiles is not like this.

There is nothing you can do to these people that could ever equal what they did.

This is a very sad day

Please post up a paypal account as soon as someone gets one.. IM IN FOR A DONATION ! This is BULLSHIT , excuse my french.... Everyone works very hard on keeping trails open and these %#@^# IDIOTS take years off of progress.... IM PISSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im sure these guys were braging to someone about this my bet is they will catch these SOB's. Lets get this reward up there, you know people will talk, I hope. They are looking at some pretty good prison time.

That is just crazy
What dumb assholes.

Shoot em'
They're better off dead.

F'n DUSGUSTING. This is important guys, I'm going to pin the topic.

I GUARANTEE somebody out there knows who did this. If I were one of those guys, I'd turn myself in right away, because it's only going to get worse the longer they drag it out.

I just talked to the Waupaca County Director for the AWSC He said the reward was over $9000!!
Keep the donations coming
I'll bet someone will rat out one of their buddies for $9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B L Swan

Just want to keep the address to send donations going along

If you want to make a donation to the reward fund, here is the address:
Bob Springer (WCSA)
P.O. Box 312
Marion Wi, 54950

this is very heart-breaking...we lose more than trail rights from this..

some things are so horrible that words can't begin to describe it...i'm thinking this is one of those times...

this really hurts.i'm too disturbed to even be pissed off

we have all got to do whatever it is we can to show that this is not what we are about...

what a sick,sick feeling this is....

You seriously need to get a paypal account set up and that total will fly sky high!

This was posted on my local newspapers website:


ATVBlacK wrote:

These animals WILL in fact be caught very soon!!! I have had run ins in the past with these young men/animals before. Hey R, I have already notified DNR officials of your address, who frequents your house and so forth. Your punk posse has had thier last laughs as free men. You know who you are. You may not know who this is due to the many who have had problems with in the past but I can assure you that it would be in your best interest to turn youselves in before they come get you. You may also be able to save face by ratting on your sick friends and or turning yourself in. R you know who you are, remember that. Do you really want me to end up with the reward money or do you want that to diminish? I honestly would love to see you spill your guts R just the way you and your boys spilled those deer.
1/12/2009 7:47:37 PM These animals WILL in fact be caught very soon!!! I have had run ins in the past with these young men/animals before. Hey R, I have already notified DNR officials of your address, who frequents your house and so forth. Your punk posse has had thier last laughs as free men. You know who you are. You may not know who this is due to the many who have had problems with in the past but I can assure you that it would be in your best interest to turn youselves in before they come get you. You may also be able to save face by ratting on your sick friends and or turning yourself in. R you know who you are, remember that. Do you really want me to end up with the reward money or do you want that to diminish? I honestly would love to see you spill your guts R just the way you and your boys spilled those deer. ATVBlacK


I will post a link soon.

Link:

http://thenorthwestern.com/article/2009011...1/90112100/1987

Good work Hotdawg...hopefully this guy really does know who these guys are and there is swift justice!

By Monday afternoon, a reward fund for information leading to the killers had climbed to $9,000, fueled by local snowmobile clubs and residents outraged by the crime.

I'm going to make some phone calls this AM to see if a pay pal account can get set up
I'll let U know
Thanks

The reward money offered by snowmobile clubs and other groups is up to $10,000

The dead deer included two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

The reward money includes $7,500 offered by six snowmobile clubs and another $1,500 offered by Waupaca County Crime Stoppers and the Fox Valley Humane Association

Wisconsin laws against cruelty to animals

Wisconsin § 951.18-§951.02 –

mistreating Animals

Felony
$10,000- 5 years in jail

Felony applies to
all animals;
aggravated cruelty,
mutilating or
animal fighting.

"Cruel" means causing unnecessary and excessive pain or suffering or unjustifiable injury or death.

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The group has received calls from all across the country from people interested in offering money to add to the reward fund, Sprenger said.

http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/national/midw...011218102159022

^^^ Video ^^^

The clock is ticking down for these low lifes