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SnowRider73
I have a 2004 SuperSport with the M-10 suspension and was curious if anyone had installed a big wheel kit on one and if it made a difference in top speed. I didn't realize until after I bought it that the M-10 robs from the top speed quite a bit. I'm not sure if the big wheel kit would help or not. Any other ideas if this isn't the solution to the problem? dunno.gif
actionfigurejoe
Track tension is crucial. Set the drop at 1 1/2" with no weight added.
motie777
Not a bash, but if top end is a priorty for you the super sport is probably the wrong sled. I have an M10 also and it definatly does take some top end away.
SnowRider73
I will surely drop the track tension to 1 1/2". That might explain the "catching" I would feel going down a smooth trail. I was told my one dealer that with the M-10 suspension, it's very important to have the track tight. They said that the M-10 is hard on tracks. I do think it was them that tightened the track, but I don't like it. I went out to check the track, after I read your reply and you can barely push it down away from the slides. I'd also like to clutch it and liven it up a bit. It seems to be pretty dead at mid range. Any reputable company I should try, that would have a clutch kit for my sled? It has PERC and electric start. i_need_snow.gif
Needsnow
QUOTE(SnowRider73 @ Aug 21 2004, 03:20 PM)
I was told my one dealer that with the M-10 suspension, it's very important to have the track tight.  They said that the M-10 is hard on tracks.  I do think it was them that tightened the track, but I don't like it. 
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Dealers will tend to do that becouse "that's what the book say's". They do the same thing to the EDGE skid too. The "book" is way off on what there should be for tension.
Beagle1
I spent 7000 miles with an M-10 on an MXZ 670.

Yes, an M-10 is HARD on a track. You can get about 5000 miles out of a studded track with an M-10 that is used hard like mine was. And yes, an M-10 slows you down. It's not about the track or the rear wheels, it's the angle of attack on the slide rails. I lost 8 mph with my M-10 that I couldn't get back with porting, pipes, 44mm carbs, etc.

I learned more than I care to remember about my M-10. What I learned, I learned from Brad Finkbeiner of Brad's A/C Performance and the inventor of the BLT Front End that FAST sold for a while.

When FAST's pathetic customer service (kids!) couldn't figure out why my M-10 rode like crap after one weekend, and when I couldn't either, and after they soaked my for multiple shock rebuilds and extra "updated" parts Brad knew what it was right away.

The cords in the track were breaking and the track is an intergral part of the parallelogram workings of a sled skid. Sold Brad sold me a new track CHEAP! And all was well.

Last thing he told me was to set the track tension loose as I could, to the point of the drivers stripping, then tightening it up until they stopped stripping. He said to IGNORE any written info on it. dunno.gif

Brad is the only guy I know that has an M-10 in a Firecat, he had to narrow it down to fit :div20:

He has some other M-10 tricks up his sleeve too. He's the only guy I ever seen that could get a good wheelie with an M-10 Wow1.gif
SnowRider73
Thanks for the advice. It's very obvious then that the track is extremely too tight. That will be the first thing I change before riding season begins. Thanks for the help. I think I will also adjust my limiter strap. There is too much weight transfer to the front when I let off the throttle, almost as though it wants to stop and I don't have to slow down by using the brake. I believe the limiter strap is set on the longest setting. (bottom hole) Any suggestions as to where I should try moving it to? :div20:
classic rider
Do the track thing like beagle1 said--------Day & night difference. Pulling up your lim. strap will also be day & night. Gotta try & adj. M-10 but once you get it set proper you will love it. Top speed could be more with HP. or CC's
Beagle1
I know Brad used to make custom limit straps that were actuallly LONGER than stock.

You may want to call him. Find the number for the True Value Hardware in Fife Lake, MI. That's where he is now. He is cocky and condensending at times, but it's worth it in the end! And he has every right to be cocky, he is one sharp SOB!
rtoner70
QUOTE(SnowRider73 @ Aug 22 2004, 08:59 AM)
Thanks for the advice.  It's very obvious then that the track is extremely too tight.  That will be the first thing I change before riding season begins.  Thanks for the help.  I think I will also adjust my limiter strap.  There is too much weight transfer to the front when I let off the throttle, almost as though it wants to stop and I don't have to slow down by using the brake.  I believe the limiter strap is set on the longest setting. (bottom hole)  Any suggestions as to where I should try moving it to?   :div20:
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I would try adjusting the track tension first, before doing anything with the limiter strap. With how tight you describe the track tension as being, it could be causing it to slow down pretty quick when you are out of the throttle. I guess what I am saying is, try one thing at a time. Otherwise, you may adjust the limiter strap, only to find you need to put it back where it was. Once you have loosened the track, take it for a ride, if possible, to see if the weight transfer to the front lets up a little. Then if it still does not feel right, try the limiter strap. Good luck with the SS! They are a fun sled to ride!! ylsuper.gif

BTW: has the sled been going through slides pretty bad? With the track that tight, I would think it would.
SnowRider73
I haven't had to replace the slides....YET. I've only put 970 miles on it and about 600 of those miles were with the track being too tight. (wish I would've known before now) My dealer adjusted the track at about 300 miles. Next time, I'll tell them to leave the track alone and I'll check it myself. :banghead: Thank for the advice. I've had ALOT help from everyone and I do appreciate it. I love my sled, but I just need to figure out what works best to get the most out of it. I've heard the M-10 is one of the best suspensions made, but I have been able to dial it in correctly and with the track being too tight, it's no wonder I haven't been able to see what the M-10 is REALLY all about.
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