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FusionMan
JIM...if you have a problem with me posting this info just say the word and i will have it removed. I didn't copy and paste like you stated just summed up a few key points for an easy fix to this Hp debate.


I just went through the 13 pages on the Dynotech site and basically this is what i summed up.
At 7900 RPM we have 152.7 Hp and 101.5 ft/lb torque. This is with a PC and reducing fuel gradually, basically leaning it out, NOTHING ELSE CHANGED.
And this run was at 95Deg coolant temperature absolutely deto- free, or zero clicks of detonation. Jim also stated that they made one more fuel tweak that put it over 154 but forgot to save it to a disk. nono.gif
If you dont like leaning it out you can purchase the Bikeman Pipe mod for a measly $225.00 and get up to 155.8 hp eclipsee_steering.gif ... with the PC set to all Zero's.
OR...with an EXXTREME Modded SLP pipe, SLP Y-Pipe and muffler tuned with PC to max hp you can come out with a nice # of 162 HP and 105ft/lb torque. buttrock.gif
But apparently this pipe is modded by someone himslef for his sled I think Jim stated and is not available for purchase. But I am sure anything can be bought for a price...lol

Happy sledding boys, I know I will have a grin on. All I have to do is lean out the sled a little to get 153 hp...FINE BY ME. Oh and we have to find a simple way to drop coolant temps. I believe Meathead is working on something.
Dont dispute this because is is right from Dynotech and is completemy safe at the ratios he posted.
Seems to me all Polaris did was send the sled out a little fuel rich to cover themselves in regards to warranty issues.

If anyone thinks this is a big deal then thats just something you will have to get over. Its very simple to get the stated hp, and with mods this engine will be a monster. music.gif

I think I will have to get a custom made snowflap for the competition 's viewing pleasure. ylsuper.gif
XCR1250
A "Bite Me" flap?? LOL
PolarisIQ600
QUOTE(FusionMan @ Oct 9 2008, 06:46 PM) *
JIM...if you have a problem with me posting this info just say the word and i will have it removed. I didn't copy and paste like you stated just summed up a few key points for an easy fix to this Hp debate.
I just went through the 13 pages on the Dynotech site and basically this is what i summed up.
At 7900 RPM we have 152.7 Hp and 101.5 ft/lb torque. This is with a PC and reducing fuel gradually, basically leaning it out, NOTHING ELSE CHANGED.
And this run was at 95Deg coolant temperature absolutely deto- free, or zero clicks of detonation. Jim also stated that they made one more fuel tweak that put it over 154 but forgot to save it to a disk. nono.gif
If you dont like leaning it out you can purchase the Bikeman Pipe mod for a measly $225.00 and get up to 155.8 hp eclipsee_steering.gif ... with the PC set to all Zero's.
OR...with an EXXTREME Modded SLP pipe, SLP Y-Pipe and muffler tuned with PC to max hp you can come out with a nice # of 162 HP and 105ft/lb torque. buttrock.gif
But apparently this pipe is modded by someone himslef for his sled I think Jim stated and is not available for purchase. But I am sure anything can be bought for a price...lol

Happy sledding boys, I know I will have a grin on. All I have to do is lean out the sled a little to get 153 hp...FINE BY ME. Oh and we have to find a simple way to drop coolant temps. I believe Meathead is working on something.
Dont dispute this because is is right from Dynotech and is completemy safe at the ratios he posted.
Seems to me all Polaris did was send the sled out a little fuel rich to cover themselves in regards to warranty issues.

If anyone thinks this is a big deal then thats just something you will have to get over. Its very simple to get the stated hp, and with mods this engine will be a monster. music.gif

I think I will have to get a custom made snowflap for the competition 's viewing pleasure. ylsuper.gif


Jim probably WILL have a problem with this info, given that it is not true. You are forgetting the coolant re route.
zackster
i have the new 800 sp for this year to its a cfi how do u lean it out its not like the carb just changed jets can someone tell me .
polarice
QUOTE(zackster @ Oct 9 2008, 11:18 PM) *
i have the new 800 sp for this year to its a cfi how do u lean it out its not like the carb just changed jets can someone tell me .



Add a pint of screach to each tank of gas!!
naise
QUOTE(polarice @ Oct 10 2008, 01:25 AM) *
Add a pint of screach to each tank of gas!!

Or add a pint of screech to yourself and then these things will really fly!
FusionMan
Hey Polaris IQ600...If you read the line that starts with Happy sledding boys, I made reference to this coolant temperature issue. Thanks though..lol
FusionMan
QUOTE(zackster @ Oct 10 2008, 02:18 AM) *
i have the new 800 sp for this year to its a cfi how do u lean it out its not like the carb just changed jets can someone tell me .


HOPEFULLY Polaris will make this simple for us after visiting Jim at Dynotech. All they have to do is issue a Re-map or a Re-Flash as people refer to it as. They have the info from Dynotech. It will take a bit of time but that is the easiest way.
The other way is to buy a Pre-Mapped Power Commander and I believe Jim made reference to this in his post.
And the hardest way is to take the sled to a tuner and have it Mapped.
F7 Possum
Boondocker box or TFI box but those are pricy. So you might as well buy the SLP pipe and can and lean it out with that for 500 bucks and get the 163HP instead of the 153 with leaning it out.
Albert Johnson
QUOTE(F7 Possum @ Oct 10 2008, 06:52 AM) *
Boondocker box or TFI box but those are pricy. So you might as well buy the SLP pipe and can and lean it out with that for 500 bucks and get the 163HP instead of the 153 with leaning it out.



The numbers you are quoting are way off and misleading. Buy a subscription, El-cheapo and get your plagiarized facts straight for once.
Hoodlum1975
Does adding a Power Commander and leaning out the sled void the warranty?
PolarisIQ600
theres alot of shit to get ironed out with this D8. I plan on starting the season on the 98 700. It has no thermostat and a shitty suspension. But i wont get embarrassed on the lake or roads.
FUSION900PA
QUOTE(PolarisIQ600 @ Oct 10 2008, 09:23 AM) *
theres alot of shit to get ironed out with this D8. I plan on starting the season on the 98 700. It has no thermostat and a shitty suspension. But i wont get embarrassed on the lake or roads.



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bigbored
QUOTE(FUSION900PA @ Oct 10 2008, 07:38 AM) *
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WOW
You guys are killing me. For one thing, you cant simulate field running conditions, on a Engine Dyno. DTR is as good as anyone as trying to do this but it just doesnt happen. You dont think the OEM'S have better dynos and testing equipment then DTR's Superflow Engine only dyno??

Why do all OEMS spend Millions of $$$$$$$$$ field Testing in conditions????? Dah!!

Another issue at play here boys and girls are EPA Laws and regulations on "EMISSIONS"

Before you go rerouting lines, changing mapping, ect I would highly suggest that you Test ride your sleds in real world conditions, and then and only then make a change under your own results and findings

Oh and YES it can VOID your warranty, if you reroute cooling lines and use other means to change the engine timing. Its called Modifing the Factory preset settings. Its also against the EPA laws if they ever decided to inforce it!!
Kidd Rock
The D8 will be the balls where it was designed to be, As delivered, From Polaris........

This thing should be a Monster on the trails, Rougher the better.....

Again, if you want a freakin' lake runner......Buy one!

Sure you can turn the 800 into a lake missile but now your giving it up on the trails. I know for a fact my 07 Dragon handles the rough BETTER then ANY sled I have come acrossed.....

Ever!

On the trail, Your sled should be able to run down and run away from ANYTHING!

Hard finding that perfect trail/lake runner.

I'd bet it doesn't exist, Not from a factory anywayzzzzzzz!

BTW, Albert Johnson is Action figure Joe ain't ya?

Love those comebacks man.....LOL!

Kidd
F7 Possum
Albert your an idiot!!!!! I simply said what the guy who started this topic said, I am not cheap I don't have an 09 Dragon so why the fuck would I pay for a dyno report I could care less about. That shit is nothing but numbers get some real feild testing in then compare numbers.
FUSION900PA
QUOTE(bigbored @ Oct 10 2008, 10:40 AM) *
WOW
You guys are killing me. For one thing, you cant simulate field running conditions, on a Engine Dyno. DTR is as good as anyone as trying to do this but it just doesnt happen. You dont think the OEM'S have better dynos and testing equipment then DTR's Superflow Engine only dyno??

Why do all OEMS spend Millions of $$$$$$$$$ field Testing in conditions????? Dah!!

Another issue at play here boys and girls are EPA Laws and regulations on "EMISSIONS"

Before you go rerouting lines, changing mapping, ect I would highly suggest that you Test ride your sleds in real world conditions, and then and only then make a change under your own results and findings

Oh and YES it can VOID your warranty, if you reroute cooling lines and use other means to change the engine timing. Its called Modifing the Factory preset settings. Its also against the EPA laws if they ever decided to inforce it!!



I agree...


lets get in on snow before we drop resale on this thing like the fusion...

this sled is going to rip plain and simple...
shortstop20
QUOTE(bigbored @ Oct 10 2008, 09:40 AM) *
Oh and YES it can VOID your warranty, if you reroute cooling lines and use other means to change the engine timing. Its called Modifing the Factory preset settings. Its also against the EPA laws if they ever decided to inforce it!!


Wrong. The sled only has to leave the factory within EPA guidelines. After it is purchased the owner does not have to keep it EPA compliant and they cannot be fined if it is not EPA compliant with their mods/tuning.
bigbored
QUOTE(shortstop20 @ Oct 10 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Wrong. The sled only has to leave the factory within EPA guidelines. After it is purchased the owner does not have to keep it EPA compliant and they cannot be fined if it is not EPA compliant with their mods/tuning.



Well Lets look at it this way, It will void the Polaris warranty, as its written period (maybe you should read it). A dealer may decide to circumvent the process, but if the Polaris warranty tech finds out about it, Good by warranty.
WHY, Because it cost Polaris Thousands of $$$$ for people that LIE to them about warranty claims.

This warranty does not cover accidental damage, normal wear and tear, abuse or improper handling, and
excludes any failures that are not caused by a defect in material or workmanship. This warranty does not
cover any product that has been altered structurally, modified in any way, neglected, improperly maintained,
used for racing, or used for purposes other than for which it was manufactured.
This warranty does not reimburse
for work completed by an unauthorized service center. This warranty does not cover any damage which
may occur during trailer transit or as a result of unauthorized service or the use of unauthorized parts or lubricants
.
WEAR ITEMS NOT COVERED / EXCLUSIONS
In order to qualify for warranty, the product must have been properly set-up and tested by a Polaris Dealer.
Failure of any dealer to perform the required vehicle Pre-Delivery Inspection, perform all applicable service bulletins,
and failure to have the customer sign the PDI form prior to delivery may void the warranty. Failure to provide
proof of required periodic maintenance upon request may result in denial of warranty coverage. Use of the
recommended Polaris products for lubrication and maintenance as directed by the Owner’s Manual is highly
recommended. Should a failure occur during the warranty period resulting from the use of non-recommended
products, warranty coverage may be denied.
Hoodlum1975
I thought it would void the warranty. Thanks for the info.
shortstop20
QUOTE(bigbored @ Oct 10 2008, 03:26 PM) *
Well Lets look at it this way, It will void the Polaris warranty, as its written period (maybe you should read it). A dealer may decide to circumvent the process, but if the Polaris warranty tech finds out about it, Good by warranty.
WHY, Because it cost Polaris Thousands of $$$$ for people that LIE to them about warranty claims.

This warranty does not cover accidental damage, normal wear and tear, abuse or improper handling, and
excludes any failures that are not caused by a defect in material or workmanship. This warranty does not
cover any product that has been altered structurally, modified in any way, neglected, improperly maintained,
used for racing, or used for purposes other than for which it was manufactured.
This warranty does not reimburse
for work completed by an unauthorized service center. This warranty does not cover any damage which
may occur during trailer transit or as a result of unauthorized service or the use of unauthorized parts or lubricants
.
WEAR ITEMS NOT COVERED / EXCLUSIONS
In order to qualify for warranty, the product must have been properly set-up and tested by a Polaris Dealer.
Failure of any dealer to perform the required vehicle Pre-Delivery Inspection, perform all applicable service bulletins,
and failure to have the customer sign the PDI form prior to delivery may void the warranty. Failure to provide
proof of required periodic maintenance upon request may result in denial of warranty coverage. Use of the
recommended Polaris products for lubrication and maintenance as directed by the Owner’s Manual is highly
recommended. Should a failure occur during the warranty period resulting from the use of non-recommended
products, warranty coverage may be denied.


I stated the fact that you were wrong when you said the EPA could fine riders for non-compliant sleds and then you go off on a tangent to Mars about warranty. wtf.gif
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