snopro31
Sep 25 2008, 06:36 PM
I'm considering taking in a few races this year if I get a new sled.
The xfire r comes with a 128x14x1. I would like to put a 128x15x1.25 on it. Now I am wondering if that would take me out of the stock class in the 800cc range? I know its a "mod" some would say but it wouldnt be a speed mod. Probably would slow the sled down.
So would that put me in the improved class or stock?
Thanks
Turk
Sep 25 2008, 06:49 PM
You can run any production track in the stock class but it can not be altered or cut down.
2005firecat78
Sep 25 2008, 07:03 PM
you will be fine come and get sum the mb race guys are a close knit group they are your friend one day, and race day all bets are off you are on your own.
snopro31
Sep 25 2008, 07:21 PM
i'll be practicing this winter on a xp that talks the big talk.
Turk
Sep 25 2008, 09:31 PM
Come out & see how fast you aren,t!!!!!
snopro31
Sep 25 2008, 09:41 PM
QUOTE(Turk @ Sep 25 2008, 10:31 PM)

Come out & see how fast you aren,t!!!!!
im referring to another member on the forum ahah.
this is gonna be kinda weird tho. going from a 570 to a 800. o well its fun.
snopro31
Sep 25 2008, 09:54 PM
another question.
i know you need a tether but what else do you need to race?
The Legend
Sep 26 2008, 06:20 AM
A ISR rule book will help out alot. From what I have read on here, just about every race has its own rules with the exception of SSRA who follows the ISR rule book.
Who has the XP that you are referring too?
There are alot of fast stock sleds here in Manitoba. I know I want to get back into racing this year and expect to take my lumps early. Unfortunately, the only way I can measure where I am at against these guys will be at the race track. Hopefully I can get myself close towards the last half of the race year!
Hope to see you out Snopro!
MotorHeadManiac07
Sep 26 2008, 07:12 AM
nice pic legend
dragrunner
Sep 26 2008, 07:57 AM
QUOTE(snopro31 @ Sep 25 2008, 07:36 PM)

I'm considering taking in a few races this year if I get a new sled.
The xfire r comes with a 128x14x1. I would like to put a 128x15x1.25 on it. Now I am wondering if that would take me out of the stock class in the 800cc range? I know its a "mod" some would say but it wouldnt be a speed mod. Probably would slow the sled down.
So would that put me in the improved class or stock?
Thanks
track width is as produced for that model ( unless designated opitinal track of different width is used) got to be 14 width
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 09:43 AM
QUOTE(The Legend @ Sep 26 2008, 07:20 AM)

A ISR rule book will help out alot. From what I have read on here, just about every race has its own rules with the exception of SSRA who follows the ISR rule book.
Who has the XP that you are referring too?
There are alot of fast stock sleds here in Manitoba. I know I want to get back into racing this year and expect to take my lumps early. Unfortunately, the only way I can measure where I am at against these guys will be at the race track. Hopefully I can get myself close towards the last half of the race year!
Hope to see you out Snopro!
another forum member has that xp.
i havent raced too much. just in fields with a couple buds. all from 550-600cc sleds.
does anyone know some proposed dates for the madge and russel races? just wondering cause of my school schedule.
Thanks for the info guys
interock
Sep 26 2008, 11:12 AM
You asked the wrong question about racing in the Manitoba forums.
This forum has some of the fastest internet racers around, or in the whole racing world.
But when you get to the races they never show up or something is wrong with their sleds,
And a big reason is the tecking at the the races. Alot of cheaters out there, but once they go through the teck part of the races and get caught for cheating and are never seen out at another race that has tecking. Also some of the Rez races give good money out as prizes, but alot of time they prefer to have the locals win that money. There are still alot of Manitoba racers that go to races on the Rez, because if you win it is worth the trip
If you need questions answered about racing contact this guy
1-204-856-3919
Kam will answer most of your questions about ISR rules and how to get into racing.
If you are honest with him, the same will be returned to you.
Welcome and good luck to the races in 08-09.
Interock my sled is WFO
Turk
Sep 26 2008, 01:48 PM
Any racing that has SSRA teching (dale rodgers) assures your not running against any big bores; nitrous in stock classes or any other popular cheating scenarios. They run a tight ship & you will get punted for any infractions; no matter how small. They ever weigh the winners sleds to make sure it meets minimum requirements. There are no grey areas. Any other races the teching is a joke & yes...I have raced at both kinds!
High Voltage Racing
Sep 26 2008, 03:24 PM
Russell Grass Drags Stock picked and STOCK RUBBER
Sat Oct 11 12:00 noon reg and tech 9:30-11:00
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(High Voltage Racing @ Sep 26 2008, 04:24 PM)

Russell Grass Drags Stock picked and STOCK RUBBER
Sat Oct 11 12:00 noon reg and tech 9:30-11:00
does russell have winter drags? cant remember.
High Voltage Racing
Sep 26 2008, 04:42 PM
Yes they do and I help put them on. A date has not been set but sometime in late Jan or most likely Feb.
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE(High Voltage Racing @ Sep 26 2008, 05:42 PM)

Yes they do and I help put them on. A date has not been set but sometime in late Jan or most likely Feb.
thanks for the info.
might see ya there.
High Voltage Racing
Sep 26 2008, 04:54 PM
I hope so !It takes new racers like you as well as the die hards to attend to make it an Annual Event!
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(High Voltage Racing @ Sep 26 2008, 05:54 PM)

I hope so !It takes new racers like you as well as the die hards to attend to make it an Annual Event!
I wouldve come out to the grass one but i probably wont have the sled yet and it would be 0 miles and its probably not great for it to run a race as its first miles
Turk
Sep 26 2008, 07:15 PM
[Good teching is the key to getting new racers. It somewhat helps to even the playing field. Anyone that has raced for any length of time knows what goes on at a lot of these races.Some poor guy that has worked hard gets absolutely destroyed by some guy running a big-bore or 600 decals on his 800 hood. It happens a lot! It can be disheartening & has caused a lot of guys to give up racing. A level playing field with a proper tech will really help get out new blood!
High Voltage Racing
Sep 26 2008, 07:53 PM
Not sure what you mean, but at The Russell Races Dale Rogers from /with the SSRA does the tech and I do believe it does even the playing field!
Turk
Sep 26 2008, 08:03 PM
Read my earlier post(2nd post 1st page). None of these issues ever happen at a SSRA race that Dale techs at. I am talking about 90% of the other races in Manitoba. stick to a SSRA race & your pretty much guarenteed a level playing field. I have raced both sides of the fence & SSRA totally eliminates anything questionable. good job guys. The questionable contenders never seem to show at a SSRA sanctioned/sponsered race.
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 08:56 PM
ya i would hate to drive to the races then get my ass kicked bad and then learn that the guy had a mod sled or an improved in the stock class. takes away from racing and takes the fun out of it.
so ive heard and read that some races have a picked stock class and a rubber stock class. does this happen at just the grass drags or the winter ones too? wondering because i dont want to pic my track due to using it all over and i dont really see a point in picking a track (other then ice racing).
again thanks for the info. ive only watched a few drag races (long time ago) and 2 snox events.
Turk
Sep 26 2008, 09:02 PM
sno-pro
if you race in the rubber class u will have a lot more heats racing in the rubber class. traction is the key so use the hardest biggest lug track u can find...unless your racing on madge lake on a low snow year & it eats down to the ice.(been der) SSRA guarentees you a fair race.these guys do an awesome tech.
snopro31
Sep 26 2008, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(Turk @ Sep 26 2008, 10:02 PM)

sno-pro
if you race in the rubber class u will have a lot more heats racing in the rubber class. traction is the key so use the hardest biggest lug track u can find...unless your racing on madge lake on a low snow year & it eats down to the ice.(been der) SSRA guarentees you a fair race.these guys do an awesome tech.
i can only get one track to stay in stock class. if i increase lugs its a wider track which bumps me up to improved.
dragrunner
Sep 26 2008, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(snopro31 @ Sep 26 2008, 10:08 PM)

i can only get one track to stay in stock class. if i increase lugs its a wider track which bumps me up to improved.
I THINK CAMOPLAST WILL MAKE A TALLER LUG FOR THE NEW CATS IF THEY HAVENT YET, CAN NOT RACE WITH THE STOCK ONE IN RUBBER CLASS AND DO VERY WELL
The Legend
Sep 27 2008, 06:40 AM
QUOTE(dragrunner @ Sep 26 2008, 10:23 PM)

I THINK CAMOPLAST WILL MAKE A TALLER LUG FOR THE NEW CATS IF THEY HAVENT YET, CAN NOT RACE WITH THE STOCK ONE IN RUBBER CLASS AND DO VERY WELL
Hmm, I interpret the rule as that you can run any commercially available track as long as no suspension or tunnel modifications are required to run the track.
What track were the xfire r's running at haydays?
The Legend
Sep 27 2008, 06:42 AM
QUOTE(1991yamahaventure480 @ Sep 26 2008, 08:12 AM)

nice pic legend
Thanks, they are bought and paid for!
thundercity racing
Sep 27 2008, 10:25 PM
QUOTE(The Legend @ Sep 27 2008, 06:40 AM)

Hmm, I interpret the rule as that you can run any commercially available track as long as no suspension or tunnel modifications are required to run the track.
What track were the xfire r's running at haydays?
The rule is you can run any Commercially avalible track as long as it mantains OEM WIDTH AND LENGTH. This means you can only change the height of lug thats it!!!!
The Legend
Sep 29 2008, 10:05 AM
QUOTE(thundercity racing @ Sep 27 2008, 11:25 PM)

The rule is you can run any Commercially avalible track as long as it mantains OEM WIDTH AND LENGTH. This means you can only change the height of lug thats it!!!!
Can you explain to me how the xfire R's at the sanctioned grass drags are running the 13.5 wide speed tracks then and passing tech????
thundercity racing
Sep 29 2008, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(The Legend @ Sep 29 2008, 10:05 AM)

Can you explain to me how the xfire R's at the sanctioned grass drags are running the 13.5 wide speed tracks then and passing tech????
what sanctioned race would we be talkin about?
The Legend
Sep 29 2008, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(thundercity racing @ Sep 29 2008, 05:56 PM)

what sanctioned race would we be talkin about?
Well Princeton and Haydays to name a couple!
snopro31
Sep 29 2008, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(The Legend @ Sep 29 2008, 07:05 PM)

Well Princeton and Haydays to name a couple!
remember there different rules.
The Legend
Sep 29 2008, 06:43 PM
Those are ISR based rules just like SSRA is! Or am I missing something?
Snopro, I am in the same boat as you. I am considering buying a new sled and its between the Xfire R 800 or the Polaris Dragon 800.
The Legend
Sep 30 2008, 08:05 AM
So, if its legal at Haydays does that mean its legal here? If so, then Snopro, you have a few lug size options! Better than just one lol
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