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shempsledder
Hi all,

I had a hydrogen assisted system put on my 2000 Expedition on the Indiana board.

If anyone is interested, here's the link.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...howtopic=342737

If you have any questions, please let me know...

GNS RACING
QUOTE(shempsledder @ Jun 11 2008, 11:59 AM) *
Hi all,

I had a hydrogen assisted system put on my 2000 Expedition on the Indiana board.

If anyone is interested, here's the link.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...howtopic=342737

If you have any questions, please let me know...

Good luck, I hope it works for you! let us know.
shempsledder
QUOTE(GNS RACING @ Jun 11 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Good luck, I hope it works for you! let us know.

Thanks!

After a few months, I'll update the board.
Do the Doo
There is a lot of this on U-Tube, which I question the set up. It's just too simple for one, and if it really works, why isn't the general public jumping on the band wagon? I am not saying it is a scam, but I question it's authinticty. The guy who "invented" the idea was "supposedly" murdered in the mid 80's. But later evidence show he was not murdered, his idea never received the approved patent, and he never really showed the idea outright that it worked, so there are a lot of nay sayers. I just question it, it's just to simple, while car manufactures are spending millions on Hydrogen reseacrh and fuel cells. Honda has release, commercially, a hydrogen car in California. It cannot be bought but leased only because of the cost of the car, to make, is over 1 million. Google the car. Honda FCX. You can even find schemtics on line for the car. Its is not simple like a bottle with water and Baking Soda.....makes me wonder.....
shempsledder
QUOTE(Do the Doo @ Jun 11 2008, 02:53 PM) *
There is a lot of this on U-Tube, which I question the set up. It's just too simple for one, and if it really works, why isn't the general public jumping on the band wagon? I am not saying it is a scam, but I question it's authinticty. The guy who "invented" the idea was "supposedly" murdered in the mid 80's. But later evidence show he was not murdered, his idea never received the approved patent, and he never really showed the idea outright that it worked, so there are a lot of nay sayers. I just question it, it's just to simple, while car manufactures are spending millions on Hydrogen reseacrh and fuel cells. Honda has release, commercially, a hydrogen car in California. It cannot be bought but leased only because of the cost of the cra to make is over 1 million. Google the cra. Honda FCX. You can even find schemtics on line for the car. Its is not simple like a bottle with water and Baking Soda.....makes me wonder.....



I understand your skepticism, all I can say it works for me and I cannot comment for anyone else. Perhaps they are not (the car makers) because it's not idiot proof. Some people have a rough enough time putting gas in the car, let alone putting in another bottle....donno why they are not doing it???

One thing I need to mention, If you do this yourself, be careful how you lean the mixture. Too lean and you burn up a piston...
C-notesnopro
QUOTE(GNS RACING @ Jun 11 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Good luck, I hope it works for you! let us know.

see below reply

QUOTE(shempsledder @ Jun 11 2008, 02:58 PM) *
I understand your skepticism, all I can say it works for me and I cannot comment for anyone else. Perhaps they are not (the car makers) because it's not idiot proof. Some people have a rough enough time putting gas in the car, let alone putting in another bottle....donno why they are not doing it???

One thing I need to mention, If you do this yourself, be careful how you lean the mixture. Too lean and you burn up a piston...

just so happens I know someone having great success with this,,

U hit the nail on the head Doesn't seem like the oil co's and politicians would like this occurring either,, (one of the reasons a lot of links have been bannished off you tube and other sites as well) whistle.png
Do the Doo
QUOTE(shempsledder @ Jun 11 2008, 02:58 PM) *
I understand your skepticism, all I can say it works for me and I cannot comment for anyone else. Perhaps they are not (the car makers) because it's not idiot proof. Some people have a rough enough time putting gas in the car, let alone putting in another bottle....donno why they are not doing it???

One thing I need to mention, If you do this yourself, be careful how you lean the mixture. Too lean and you burn up a piston...



Well do keep us posted. I looked into this just a few weeks ago. I fell on the idea surfing the weeb and it let me to U-Tube and a hug amount of info as well as article. Really, keep us posted on this.

Do the Doo
snowjunkey1000
QUOTE(shempsledder @ Jun 11 2008, 09:59 AM) *
Hi all,

I had a hydrogen assisted system put on my 2000 Expedition on the Indiana board.

If anyone is interested, here's the link.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...howtopic=342737

If you have any questions, please let me know...

I have a friend that has them on 13 vehicles everything from semi's to a neon and they work.
C-notesnopro
QUOTE(snowjunkey1000 @ Jun 11 2008, 08:01 PM) *
I have a friend that has them on 13 vehicles everything from semi's to a neon and they work.

better not let jumpjunky hear that, lol,, let me say, my friend doing them is a retired GM engineer and has zero problems with his so far, maybe time will tell more, maybe it won't dunno.gif

edit: spelling/grammar
JumpJunky
QUOTE(C-notesnopro @ Jun 11 2008, 11:15 PM) *
better not let jumpjunky hear that, lol,, let me say, my friend doing them is a retired GM engineer and has zero problems with his so far, maybe time will tell more, maybe it won't dunno.gif

edit: spelling/grammar


Like someone said - there's a sucker born EVERY day.
ExcitableTom
Local West Michigan trucking company (Equity Transportation) has these on almost all of their 250 semi's. They tested the heck out of them before spending the money and risking that many engines. They say the increased their trucks' milage from about 6 mpg to about 8 mpg on average. The owner of the company just put one on his own 4 door diesel pick-up.

There must be some truth to all these claims.
C-notesnopro
(JumpJunky @ Jun 12 2008, 06:56 AM) *
Like someone said - there's a sucker like myself born EVERY day.

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JumpJunky
(C-notesnopro @ Jun 12 2008, 05:47 PM) *
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All in good fun / debate. Phil made some good points in the Indiana thread. Hydrogen IS a very good fuel. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist in its natural state on earth - we must generate or separate it. This process takes more energy than what it possesses.




C-notesnopro
(JumpJunky @ Jun 12 2008, 05:52 PM) *
All in good fun / debate. Phil made some good points in the Indiana thread. Hydrogen IS a very good fuel. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist in its natural state on earth - we must generate or separate it. This process takes more energy than what it possesses.

I agree,, the fellow i've referred to here is way more than capable of doing his own testing/validation/durability assessments,, he's been armpit deep into engineering since he was born I believe, Lol
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RIPPER
""it doesn't exist in its natural state on earth - we must generate or separate it. This process takes more energy than what it possesses""

I guess ol Kevin Cosner was right after all ---- "Theres nothing free in WATER world"
QWK800
QUOTE(JumpJunky @ Jun 12 2008, 06:56 AM) *
Like someone said - there's a sucker born EVERY day.


I want to jump in on the debate.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...p;#entry4021896

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