Does anyone know the rest of the details , like place, times ,etc. for the showing Apr. 9 ?

Four Sled Manufacturer Sneak Peek Tour -- Regina

I'll be there!!!!

Did anyone go? How does the price compare between all the manufactures? Are they close, or is BRP winning in the... "Screw Canadian's" for all we can...

THE SKIDOO DEALER IN WINNIPEG WAS HANDING OUT BROCHURES SAYING IT IS CHEAPER TO BUY A SKIDOO IN CANADA THAN IN THE US. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THERE FIGURES, OTHER THAN IF YOU PAY $300.00 THEY WILL WARRANTY A US SLED. Skidoo could save there dealers from losing sales to Canadians buying from the US and just sell them a little cheaper here to the Canadian dealers. here is the scanned info
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those F heads are trying to screw its customers too by the looks of it,for starters out of state or province people don't pay sales tax until they try to register it in there own province,recall letter is free(from polaris anyway),$1150 for warranty?WTF is that?looks like a desperate attempt to me to get somebody to buy from them instead of going south and saving $3000.00,If they are going to lie I sure wouldn't even waste my time with them!

What's the $$$ of a Polaris Switchback 600CFI, compared to the 600E-tec Gade? The Gade is $11,949 retail...

polaris switchback 600 CFI retail 10599.00 includes electric start!dragon switchback 600 CFI 11399.00 also includes electric start!

IQ shift 136" CFI 120 HP 2 injector (instead of 125HP 4 injector CFI)9199.00

the Polaris shift models are bar far the best deals in the industry,NOBODY makes a sled that does so much so good as the IQ for this cheap,the 550 fan shift model for 09 retails for 6299.00 now thats a great sled for the family or wife for a little money!polaris has the right idea with these sleds and I think sales are showing it.

Best sled in the industry?? I don't think so!!!

But they are a good deal.

He never said best sled, only the best deal. And they are by far the best deal on a new sled.

No fee for registration and Tax. I wish I never had to pay those fees. What a pile of crap that paper. They can go fly a kite.

what dealer is that?? seems like a load of shit if you ask me.

Best deal??? People with TNT's probably have a good argument for you there!

If you are paying registration and other fees on any sled.....you are the silly one my friend!!!

Not much of an argument at all it!look across the shift models for 09 with the different models they have,the TNT 600 CARB (one model) doesn't compare!600 shift 136 thats a dam good deal there kitty cat and NO ONE has anything to compete with these value priced sleds from and brand!550 shift not even in the same class and priced well below a TNT,I agree the TNT is a impressive sled aside from the motor ,but these shifts are the best deals on snow and if you have never riden the 600 IQ based sleds from 07 to current with there many updates you have no idea how good these sleds really are,they are very hard to keep up to on the trail,I will guarantee there are few sleds that will keep up to a IQ in the twisties,I ride up in the moose mountains every winter and have yet to be left in the dust by any brand!never riden with any Yamahas but NO DOO or CAT has ever left me behind!

A few years ago I would have taken you up little challenge back when I was young and silly. Now I don't see the need to put anyones life in danger on the trail to settle a grudge match on who's the best rider or who has the best handling sled.

But I will settle for having the BEST riding and BEST trail sled on the market. THE TWIN SPAR CHASSIS!!!!

For year the IQ chassis has been rated #1, so the twin spar must be personal opinion.

Everyone has t pay a fee if they want their sled registered. That is why you pay your registration that happens to have the snow pass fee included. You aslo need to have your sled registered if you plan on covering your butt with liability insurance. I personally don't feel like getting sued if there is a collision on the trail and the other guy ends up in the hospital or off work because of it.

You rate the IQ #1, well it must be!!!! LOL I'm not sure where you pulled that from?? Snow tech just did the long term test on their '08 sleds, and while they like the IQ, they said it did nothing the best but was good at everything!! Not once did they call it the best in their fleet or close to it!! In the same article they called their twin spar the BEST riding and BEST high mile sled in their fleet. I'm not sure they know exactly what they are talking about, but at least I have something to back my argument...what do you have??? In all honesty I haven't ridden an '08 IQ. I have ridden the New Yammies & XP Doos. While they are nice sleds, in no way are they close to having the ride or easy steering of the twin spar. They both have their strong points as well!! Hey but each to their own!!

Of course you have to register your sled. Would you drive around without registering your car??? If that's the registration fee you were referring to.... you're simpler then I thought!!!!

Once you get used to riding your chassis of choice...everything else just seems awkward...I have ridden all 4 makes of sled and our pick is the Doo..The IQ is rated very well but after a few miles on one this yr. I let my friend have it back with No regrets compared to my Rev... But I think for 09 Doo has the Highest $$$, the poorest spring break deals, and the poorest warranty...When your #1 it seems you can Doo as you wish till you fall off the top....

I do agree with you on the twin spar,I am by no means a cat guy but I have sat on the f series sleds and they are mighty comfy,I also read what snow tech said I agree that the twin spar is likely a good high miler/trail sled,I personally also like to do a lot of off trail riding as well as trail and like they said the polaris was the best at nothing but good at everything at that has always been POLARIS' strong point!I want a sled that is good at everything cause I like to do every type of riding I can get a chance to do!I have a buddy that has rode cats for years and this year jumped to a XP cause he didn't think the f-series would fit his riding style but me and everyone he rides with thinks he was nuts to jump on the XP,the F sereis would have been perfect for him!I owned and rode the REV for 2 years and it was a good sled but definitely nothing to write home about,I'm 6'1" and 230 LBS,,you couldn't move on this sled,one riding position that was it,and boy did it get tiring day after day mile after mile no matter how many miles it never got any better,many enjoyed it but after 3000 miles I wasn't .the IQ is so versatile and fits a wide variety of sizes and riding styles and riding conditions,I like it!

That is exactly what i meant, not the best and 1 single style of riding but good at everything. A balanced sled. What good is it if you can go fast with no handling, or handle really good but no acceleration.

Best bang for the buck. Wife wants a Cat but for the price we are going to have to stick with a Shift.

back in the day for 10 years the POLARIS INDY 500 was sled of the year, now us Polaris fans get near the top and some guy blows us off as a bunch of hot air, last year 2007 the 600 CFI IQ was picked by SNOWTRAX TV as the best real world sled, this year 2008 it was the SHIFT. Give Polaris credit where CREDIT IS DUE! Snowtrax TV said the handling on the twin-spar 4 stroke sucked, I like the twin spar with the 6 but the 8 is underpowered and over weight. , The twin spar is good for some riding conditions but not all. That is why they still have the crossfire chassis. why are there no 136 or mountain sleds in the twin spar?
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Just calm down ROOKIE!!! Snow Trax put the Jag in its top 4 sleds of the year, I doubt they would put it there if the handling sux!!! Shift won and deserved it mainly because of what you get for the price of it. Nobody can deny that. The X-Fire has always been in a different chassis then the trail sleds...it should be it's a totally different segment of riding!! The mountain sled is a different chassis as well...once again a different segment.

There is no sled on the market that is good for all riding conditions, sorry that is why there is trail sleds, crossovers and mountain sleds....that's not rocket science!!!

As for your 600 comment on the F. I have owned 2 600's..... I'll keep my Z1, and since you point out snowtrax, they as well picked the Z1 as the best Cat. So I'm not sure where you are going with that.

PS How far was the Firecat in front of you when that happened???? LOL

ROOKIE? WATCH THE DAM SHOW JOHNNY, THEY SAID THE SLED HAD OVER STEER, TURN THE BARS ALL THE WAY AND THE SKI'S ONLY MOVE SO FAR, YOUR CAT SLEDS ARE GREAT SLEDS< BUT YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CAME ON HERE JUMPING ON ANYONES OPINIONS<Anteater said the shift was the best deal, you changed that to the BEST SLED. see what I mean. I NEVER CAME ON THIS TREAD PUTTING DOWN CAT< I SAID THE OPPOSITE< READ IT! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT GETS PISSY WHEN SOME ONE SAYS POSITIVE ABOUT ANOTHER BRAND, YOU DO IT EVERYTIME, YOU JUMP ALL OVER EVERTHING ANY POSTS THAT ARE POSITIVE ABOUT THE BRANDS YOU DON'T RIDE . WE CAN PICK HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT US HUMANS MAKE, NOBODY HAS PERFECTED THE SNOWMOBILE YET, BUT READING YOUR POSTS YOU HAVE IT FIGURED OUT. This is fun isn't it!!! Oh and hope you liked the firecat. I have more of every brand. we can all laugh once in a while, we shouldn't be so serious

ARCTIC CAT IS #1, WANT PERFECTION BUY A ARCTIC CAT SNOWMOBILE OR WALK.

I should be ok saying that?
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It's OK ROOKIE!!!! Take off your red colored glasses and realize that the other brands all make good sleds and Polaris ISN'T Gods gift to snowmobiling!!!!

Yes I did like my Firecat, it's not anywhere close to my X-Fire or Twin Spar buy it sure put alot a people in there place at the end of the lake!! LOL

Cat is Perfection??? Well I don't know about that ROOKIE...but you are entitled to your opinion!!

You just proved my point you dont read what others post, by firecat I meant the one that was burning in the picture I posted.LOL I never said {Polaris was gods gift to snowmobiling}??? WOW, again you have problems reading. Skidoo is #1 in sales. And have fun at the bottom of the lake.
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Look who's true colors just came flying through!!! WOW ROOKIE!!!!

How can Ski-Doo be #1 in sales when you have made it clear that Polaris makes the best sled??? LOL

I guess all of us who don't ride Polaris are idiots. LOL

DT6957 07 Dragon

Take off the red colored glasses...you're missing out on a great sport!!!

dt5967 DO YOU EVER READ WHAT I POST OR JUST MAKE SHIT UP TO FILL YOUR EGO. I HAVE NEVER POSTED ON THIS TREAD THAT POLARIS IS THE BEST OR THAT IF YOU RIDE SOMETHING OTHER THAN POLARIS YOUR AND IDIOT???? WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP YOU PRINT, THIS IS A SPORT ABOUT HAVING FUN NOT ABOUT SLAMMING BRANDS LIKE YOU ENJOY DOING. I'm THE ONE WHO POSTED THE SHIT ABOUT THE SKIDOO DEALERS PRICES IN WINNIPEG.

Actually I enjoy slamming you. It's much easier then slamming brands, especially when all 4 make very good sleds.... they have to or they wouldn't be in business!!

So forgive me if I ride a "HATED CAT" in your eyes. But I'm not changing for you ROOKIE!!!!

IF EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE HOW MESSED UP dt6957 JUST GO READ ABOUT THE CAR HE IS SELLING IN THE SK SLED CLASSIFIEDS, HE FIGHTS WITH EVERYONE THAT POSTS SOMETHING. IS THE POT THAT BAD IN THE ESTEVAN AREA, IT SEEMS YOU THRIVE OFF THIS BULL SHIT. SO IM GOING QUADING TODAY ON "a ARCTIC CAT". SEE BRANDS DO NOT MATTER JUST AS LONG AS YOUR HAVING FUN!

i seen this tread in the cat section, seems dt 6957 didn't like it either 07dragon, so here i will repost it

I just don't see anything to get excited about for '09. Nothing new for the 2-stroke lovers. Same old fuel sucking, stoneage fuel injection we have all come to hate! I wonder how many Reflashes the '09's will need? What a joke!

As for the Turbo Z1, maybe it will be fantastic, maybe not. Wouldn't be the first time Cat messed up a new model. Actually, if they do get it right by some miracle, that will be a first! Don't like the Z1 engine, so doubt if turbo will give me a warm fuzzy either. Still has a small tank, so you will be walking after about 80 miles if you use the 177 HP. The extra weight will just make it more of a heavier turd than it already is. Might make a good lake racer for straight line drags, but that's about it. Actually, boat anchor might be more like it!

Crossfire shows the most promise, but what's with the track sizes? Back to a 14" on the 128 and dropped the 136 for a 144. Talk about going backwards. I don't know if they are following Yamaha with the 144 or not, but I think Polaris had the right idea going to a 136 for their crossover. If you need a 144, just buy a mountain sled.

If Cat has actually fine tuned the 2-stroke EFI to at least work within it's limited 80's technology, there might be some merit in the '09 line up, but that is highly unlikely. It's not their style to do anything right. That costs too much! This very well may be the final straw for Cat that leads to their demise. Time will tell!

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I'm not sure about the pot thing.... I've never tried it but it very well could be!!! I will leave that to your expertise.


Now you want to buy my car???

HOLY CRAP man are you screwed up,from reading your bitch fest between you and dragon you seem to have some sort of medical condition or else you can't read,I never read anything about anyone saying polaris is #1,BUT they were for more than a decade and have never lost second place since doo took the #1 spot!I have no problem with cat or polaris,I have been to both the cat and poo factory and you know what! the people that build those sleds ,not far from us are good people like most of us on here ,snowmobile enthusiasts,in my opinion after being to those factories you see the pride those people have in the products they build and to me we should all be supporting our people and be riding CAT or POLARIS !not some japanese sled brought over on a boat!LIKE I SAID BACK ON PAGE ONE (NOT TRYING TO OFFEND YOU) THE POLARIS SHIFT IS THE BEST SLED FOR THE BUCK ON THE SNOW!NOTICE I'M NOT SAYING THE BEST SLED PERIOD,BUT BEST SLED FOR THE DOLLAR!You are the one who miss read the original post I made and now you have turned this topic into a big fucking mess ,Do you need attention or what??and for the two of you dudes ,read every mag and watch every sled show and they all have a different opinion on all the models and brands,so just becasue snow tech likes the Z1 or switchback or what ever sled dosn't mean the next guy will,those test are by a crew of editors and staff,just because they like it doesn't mean I will,I could give a shit what snowtech or snowtrax thinks of the sled I like ,because I like my sled if you don't I could give a fuck!now can we stop this shit and abandon this topic like so many others and let it slide to the bottom before to many more people read it and realize that we all might be losing our minds!If only we would have had a little more snow this winter so we all could have done more riding so everyone could be a little happier,things could get pretty intense on here by next fall!

As I said before...because you claim the Shift is the best bang for your buck doesn't make it so!!!! Some people like speedometers, tachs(whichever one its missing) and thumbwarmers. So I'm sorry that I don't agree with you but your ignorance still hasn't changed my mind.

A guy who likes Ski-Doo may think the TNT is the best bang for your buck.

A guy who likes Yamaha may think the Phazer is the best bang for your buck.

A guy who likes Cat may think the F5 is the best bang for your buck.

Because you make a statement saying the Shift is the best bang for your buck doesn't mean jack shit and it don't make it right. I'm sorry God didn't give you the almighty power for this power trip you are on!!!!

It's great you like your sled....you would have to be a Jackass not to like the sled you forked out cash to buy.

I have been to the Cat plant twice & really enjoyed it, but it has nothing to do with why I ride Cat or wouldn't buy a Doo, Poo or Yammie!

for the $2000-$4000 more that you pay for those other sleds i can afford to put a tack and the warmers on. They can't be worth that much.

They are options. The shift is supposed to be a entry level sled that is cheap, and that is what it is. Giving you a FULLY function sled for way less than the competition. Hence the best bang for your buck by far.

PS look at who posted this last post you are blasting, NOT the person that you have been bitching back and forth with. He is the one that was saying that the cat twin spar was a great sled.

Think you need to take a chill pill. And give up your argument just doesn't hold any water.

you just don't have a clue do you!do you just want to fight or what is your deal here??are you even trying to carry on a topic here or just picking at us and trying to stir the pot?

Oh, well I guess since you say so...the Shift must be the best bang for your buck.....because what you say goes!!! LOL

Like I said, some people may not agree with you..... get over yourself!!!!

Please try keep up with the conversation or leave..... everyone knows who they are talking to, if you can't figure it out ask a parent or someone smarter then yourself to help you figure it out!!!

Also for your information......

Shift list is $6999.00
TNT $7849.00
Phazer $6699.00
F5 $8199.00

These are the competitive liquid cooled entry level sleds. US list prices.

$2000 to $4000 difference???? LOL

The TNT & Phazer both come with more options such as tach, thumbwarmer, electric start, digital dash....need I go on????? The Cat has a tach, thumbwarmer & digital dash a well. I agree the Shift has the most power of this bunch but that isn't why people buy entry class sleds. So if you are a Polaris guy and wanting the best performance sled you still won't buy the Shift, you would get the IQ with the better suspension, engine and all the options. The Shift is simply the best bang for your buck in the Polaris lineup.

But to show I'm brand biased, it's my opinion that the F5 is the worst deal of the entry level bunch, but that's just my opinion and that doesn't make it right or mean everyone will agree with me. If I was into entry level sleds the choice out of this bunch would be easy.....the TNT !!! But like your choice it's just an opinion. And unlike you, I don't believe because I say so that it is the GOSPEL TRUTH!!!

So, you saying that the Shift is the best bang for your buck is simply your claim and many of us who ride competitive brands aren't going to agree, can I make this any simpler for you????

Those prices may be attractive if we wanted to go to the states for a sled. It is 11 hr drive to the border for me, and i am sure people who live in central sask are not interested in the drive considering gas is 1.20/L and you are out 1-2 days of your precious time off. 500 in gas, extra paperwork, meals, maybe a hotel. No warranty, all things add up to a NEW US sled not being worth it.

Stick with Canadian prices.

Shift 600 $7999
TNT 500 $ 9650
Phaser 500 $8400
F5 500 $TBA so whatever they are gonna cost for the Canadian model

So a definite $1000 difference for a comparable model.

Well if you can use the $2000-4000 difference bullshit figure, I can use the US list pricing!!!

I always buy local (in Canada) and only live 15 miles from the border so don't waste your time preaching to me about the costs of buying in the States because I don't know or care!!!


So if we use Canadian there is easily still $1000 in options between these sleds. So, once again I REST MY CASE!!! It is totally a matter of choice. There is no clear cut choice as you and others claim!!!

PS. The TNT trail is $8949.00 list in Canada and is the comparable sled to the Shift with the cheap shocks etc. So take your $7999 price tag and add tach, thumbwarmer, electric start, decals and digital dash and tell me what total you come up with??? I'm not saying you want all that stuff but if we are comparing apples to apples the Doo already has all that for less then $1000 more. I guarantee you, you can't even come close to adding all that to the Shift for even $1500. So please don't think the public is unaware that there is a reason why the price tag is so cheap on the Shift. You get what you pay for!!

I still think it is a very good idea by Polaris, there are lots of people that don't want all the bells & whistles and Polaris addressed that. Let's just not get too silly about it....there is a reason they can price it so cheap.

The F5 is $8699.00 list (therefore it is right in the ballpark as well)

The Shift is a sled with dollar savings...Maybe Pol. sold alot of these sleds??? but here where we rode all winter I never seen a single Shift...The Pol. sleds were all IQ's, or Switchbacks...I would say a very limited market share...

I seen 1 Shift on the trail this year. I did see a few new IQ & Switchback Polaris though. It was nice to see them, because ever since the Fusion there has been little to no new Polaris' on the trails.

It's actually sad, ten years ago there was probably 60-70% Polaris on the trails out here. Now they would be lucky to have 10-15% and we are losing Polaris dealerships. Not good at all. I really believe they are headed in the right direction now!! Hopefully we they get better dealer support down here.

On the other hand I seen countless TNT's so apparently it isn't just me who thought they were a great bang for your buck!!

apparently

Sooo....hows the weather.

Too fricken warm!! LOL

wow talk about a 180

Don't turn it into a 360!!!!


My point was made and it left little room for argument..... end of story.

Yeah! That's right!, when we need the answer we will be going through the big D and I don't mean Dallas

Good idea !!!!!

first of you have done nothing but slam,argue and be confrontational with me since I posted on this topic for no reason and now you are threatening me!take it easy there little man I know more than you may think!If you want to I can stop around at work someday we can talk about sleds over a slurpy if you would like!


big D you made your point but you have still left a lot of room for argument,for starters this argument still isn't in my opinion about which brand is best it is about who is giving us the best sled for the $$$I will agree the doo is a very strong contender for the bang for your buck ,in comparison the 500 SS trail is a strong 118 h.p sled,similar shocks ,features to the shift with like you said a better guage package and possibly better chassis!!time will tell!!,but the phazer and F5 are only 500 CC class sleds putting out approx 80 h.p ,the sleds both use cheap shocks like the shift,so they are well below in the h.p game and privide no other advantage over the shift. so if anyone was in the market for a low price,big fun sled the shift or doo would still be better choices as the yamaha and F5 are more money, under powered and heavier!the 09 shift now has a thumb warmer!so even though I know you are going to blast back with some crap I will waste my time typing the above info which is true and since you like making comparisons from mags and sled shows you will not find a mag or show that doesn't say what I wrote above about who has the best value sled!,so I have left NO room for argument .........END OF STORY

You can stop by work, the house whatever turns your crank!!! I don't like slurpies but if you bring me a BIG Gulp (Coke) sure I'll sit down with you and continue the chat. Threatening you??? Not sure where that comes from, but if I'm a little man...what have you got to be worried about????

If you weren't so color blind by your red glasses you would be able to see the benefits of each sled!!! I personally don't think the Cat has what the others offer in this category but then again if it does have the best ride and easiest steering of this bunch in my opinion, therefore for the ladies and the non-speed demons looking for an entry level sled... I guess it would be in the picture. My old man loves his!

You mentioned thumbwarmers...big deal!!! Did they add a tach or electric start or digital dash? NO, those are the features that are actually worth something!

I have no idea how you can say the Phazer doesn't offer as much as the Shift??? Yes the Shift has more power....but you seem to forget easily what we are talking about! THIS IS THE ENTRY CLASS SLED MARKET!!!! More people are going to like the ease of having a 4-stroke with electric start and still having the options more expensive sleds have!!

So now your claim that Polaris is the best bang for your buck includes Ski-Doo as well. Well you are starting to get over your red blindness, all 4 have options and different engines that some are going to find appealing....and yes they all sell these plenty of these models. My old man even has an F5 he had an '04 till last year and liked it enough that he bought an '08 this year, it's not always about the POWER.... I'll mention to him how silly you think he is and we'll start looking for a Shift for him tomorrow!!! LOL

PS. On the trail I have seen ONE Shift all year. I seen plenty of TNT's and Phazers not as many F5's but a couple. If you ride in my area like you claim you can't deny that this is true!!

For me personally I think the Shift is the 2nd best pick of this bunch, mainly because of the HP. But that don't mean SHIT!!! Because what I want or think doesn't mean the next guy or girl is looking for the same things out of a sled that I am....that my friend is where you are very wrong narrowing the field to just the Shift and now the Doo, that's just your opinion, nothing else. What do we know, my old man has an F5 and my niece and nephew each have Phazers. So because I would choose the Doo & yourself the Shift don't make us right! Opinions are like assholes....everyone has one! There are NO wrong choices in this group and you claiming that the Shift is the best for "YOUR" buck may be right but NOT the best bang for everyone's buck!!