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HOLY CHIT.!
www.totalrecallinfo.com
My cousin just took his 97 (ish) into Augusta, and it was soo bad he had to leave it.!!
Toyota is giving him 1.5 times the Kelly Blue book..!!! He paid $4000.00 for it 3-4 weeks ago, then found out it had a bad frame..
and Toyota is now giving him $12000.00 to $13000.00 for it..!!!! WTFFFF??
And i've heard many more stories about it just today.!!
IF YOU HAVE A Toyota TACOMA (only) CHECK INTO IT....!
hell i may buy some just to sell them back
Any facts to back it up?? I would like nothing more than to stick it to Toyota but just some random person saying they are recalling and paying all this cash doesnt cut it for me.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 3 2008, 11:20 AM) 
Any facts to back it up?? I would like nothing more than to stick it to Toyota but just some random person saying they are recalling and paying all this cash doesnt cut it for me.
I don't have anything but a link, and my cousin's, and a guy here at work's words. Trust me, if you have a Totota Tacoma.. between
1995 and 2000.. CALL THEM.!! its WELL worth it..
and of course, I'll take 10% of everyones recall check. lol
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/07/Toyota-...ps-to-15-years/
OK right from Toyota.com
http://blog.Toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-t...l?no_prefetch=1
March 07, 2008
Living Up to Our Commitment
Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications
http://blog.Toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-t...l?no_prefetch=1
March 07, 2008
Living Up to Our Commitment
Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications
QUOTE(aubfire64 @ Apr 3 2008, 01:29 PM)
OK right from Toyota.com
http://blog.Toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-t...l?no_prefetch=1
March 07, 2008
Living Up to Our Commitment
Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications
http://blog.Toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-t...l?no_prefetch=1
March 07, 2008
Living Up to Our Commitment
Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications
always a catch, i dont see them giving more than trade in for them, but i bet most will be fixed
My wife is a service writer for a Toyota dealer and most of the ones that have come in are completely rotted. They had one guy with a I think a 1996 2wd with 239,000 on it. They gave him 8500 for it. Toyota is giving kkb top dollar plus 1.5 for any shape or form the truck might be in. They want them off the roads before somebody gets killed.
They have a lot full of them getting ready too go back too Toyota too get crushed. What a shame. Still lots of good parts on them.
They have a lot full of them getting ready too go back too Toyota too get crushed. What a shame. Still lots of good parts on them.
QUOTE(sam6969 @ Apr 3 2008, 01:34 PM)
always a catch, i dont see them giving more than trade in for them, but i bet most will be fixed
Well your wrong. I know first hand there giving full boat for them. I work for a company that owns a Toyota dealer. My wife works as a service writer for them also.
Toyota basically does not want these trucks on the road if the frames are rotted away.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 3 2008, 01:20 PM)
Any facts to back it up?? I would like nothing more than to stick it to Toyota but just some random person saying they are recalling and paying all this cash doesnt cut it for me.
All the info posted.
Is that good for you?
I bought a 98 Tacoma last summer. The truck including the frame is in great shape. Literally no rust on the frame. The truck was from NJ where supposedly they do not use road salt. Is there any official word from Toyota about this recall?
QUOTE(nicklbrso @ Apr 3 2008, 02:11 PM)
I bought a 98 Tacoma last summer. The truck including the frame is in great shape. Literally no rust on the frame. The truck was from NJ where supposedly they do not use road salt. Is there any official word from Toyota about this recall?
Here read this
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showpost.php?p=...mp;postcount=39
QUOTE(NHSLEDDING @ Apr 3 2008, 02:10 PM)
All the info posted.
Is that good for you?
Is that good for you?
Thats great for me. Just trying to be objective. How many times do things like this get posted on the net and turn out to be BS. I prefer not to read one thing and run around shitting out things that arent true.
having said that, now that I know this I cant wait to tell my freind who just bought a Toyota and does nothng but rave about them about this situation. Kudos to them for buying them back and getting them off the road. I would also think having them out there isnt good for PR.
i am a Toyota tech..you cant buy them just to sell them back. they must be register before the time of this warranty extension. thats all it is not a recall. trust me i looked into it haha. this shows you how Toyota stands behind their product
So you dont think that if Ford or GM had frames rotting off their trucks they wouldnt stand behind it??! Please.
I heard that there going after the frame company . Thats all I know right now. I guess they did not seal the frames well. You think!!
My 994runner's frame is solid. The 4runners where built in japan though. So thats probually why it still looks almost like new under neath. Plus the fact I keep it clean.
I rave of Toyota, but they have some stupid stuff go wrong all the time. They all do plain and simple bla bla bla.
My 994runner's frame is solid. The 4runners where built in japan though. So thats probually why it still looks almost like new under neath. Plus the fact I keep it clean.
I rave of Toyota, but they have some stupid stuff go wrong all the time. They all do plain and simple bla bla bla.
QUOTE(NHSLEDDING @ Apr 3 2008, 03:28 PM)
I heard that there going after the frame company . Thats all I know right now. I guess they did not seal the frames well. You think!!
My 994runner's frame is solid. The 4runners where built in japan though. So thats probually why it still looks almost like new under neath. Plus the fact I keep it clean.
I rave of Toyota, but they have some stupid stuff go wrong all the time. They all do plain and simple bla bla bla.
My 994runner's frame is solid. The 4runners where built in japan though. So thats probually why it still looks almost like new under neath. Plus the fact I keep it clean.
I rave of Toyota, but they have some stupid stuff go wrong all the time. They all do plain and simple bla bla bla.
True that!
YEP... its crazy..!!
wish the HELL I had a rotten Toyota..!!! DAMMIT.!
wish the HELL I had a rotten Toyota..!!! DAMMIT.!
I am going shopping for one in uncle henry's
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 3 2008, 03:21 PM)
So you dont think that if Ford or GM had frames rotting off their trucks they wouldnt stand behind it??! Please.
X2!!!!!!!!
^ I serously doubt they would, history has proven so. Remember the gas tank deal with all the pre 99 pickups? These things were blowing up and all GM did was give you a 1200.00 credit on a brand new truck that probably got marked up at least that. Ford isnt any better. How many people got shafted with the firestone tires deal with the explorers? My dads new in 05 chevy halfton has had nasty piston slap since 6000 miles. Dealer wont do a thing about it. Says its normal.
I commend Toyota for what they are doing. Giving full retail plus quite a bit for an old truck with no questions asked. Probably never see this again in your lifetime.
I commend Toyota for what they are doing. Giving full retail plus quite a bit for an old truck with no questions asked. Probably never see this again in your lifetime.
Its different times now. Do you think Toyota gave peole refunds for thos POS cars they had on eht road back in the 70's that the bodies rotted off?? And I dont recall people getting shafted in the Firestone deal. You brought your vehicle that had the effected tires in and they replaced them. Did you want that and some free money??? If your dad's truck has issus and the dealer wont fix it go to another dealer. If that doesnt work call the state and enforce the lemon law. Ever think of how many people pull scams.
Neighbor just traded in his 99 with 170k yesterday and they gave him 13,000.
Dam, I spray my frame down every oil change. guess I will not be cashing in.
So I should probably get my truck checked out just to be safe? although from what I can see my frame has no rust on it at all.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 3 2008, 03:21 PM)
So you dont think that if Ford or GM had frames rotting off their trucks they wouldnt stand behind it??! Please.
Ever take a close look at a ten year old Ford frame in the Northeast? I'm not holding my breath while I wait for them to buy back our 98 F350 1-ton for it's high KBB +1.5. Fucking thing is literally falling apart w/48,000miles. PLEASE.
QUOTE(peterepeater @ Apr 3 2008, 09:32 PM)
Ever take a close look at a ten year old Ford frame in the Northeast? I'm not holding my breath while I wait for them to buy back our 98 F350 1-ton for it's high KBB +1.5. Fucking thing is literally falling apart w/48,000miles. PLEASE.
Well my 01 has about the same mileage on it and sits in the yard year round and the frame is fine. Its also a 1 Ton. When the frame falls apart get back to me.
I had a 99 that was broken in half in the yard, and the dealer came and picked it up with a flat bed and gave me 30,000.00 for it. The inside was real clean.
QUOTE(New Maine Rider @ Apr 4 2008, 10:43 AM)
I had a 99 that was broken in half in the yard, and the dealer came and picked it up with a flat bed and gave me 30,000.00 for it. The inside was real clean.
Wow!! That was an awesome deal!!
For the guy who bought his truck in NJ...
They use a ton of salt here, on all roads.
Line licking good for the deer!
They use a ton of salt here, on all roads.
Line licking good for the deer!
haha... thats great.
Toyota sucks
Buy american.... My silverado frame is perfect. Like new years of NY salt. 90% north american parts content baby that contributes to my job
Look at how shitty Toyota frames are
Bed bounce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0
Another test to show how weak they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE...feature=related
Toyota sucks
Buy american.... My silverado frame is perfect. Like new years of NY salt. 90% north american parts content baby that contributes to my job
Look at how shitty Toyota frames are
Bed bounce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0
Another test to show how weak they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE...feature=related
Okay , did you notice that they tested a z71 which has bilstien shocks and tested a plain tundra instead of a TRD that also has upgraded shocks ? no you probably didn't. I would like to see that done with a plain 1500 silverado
315,000 miles on my Tacoma and I am getting around 10 grand for it, 1997 model.
I sold my 2000 tacoma last year and bought a tundra , to best trucks I have ever owned and I have owned a bunch. My wife can attest to that.
Born Chevy and now driving a Tundra 15k since Sept!! HOOAH
QUOTE(marinetech @ Apr 4 2008, 08:02 PM)
Okay , did you notice that they tested a z71 which has bilstien shocks and tested a plain tundra instead of a TRD that also has upgraded shocks ? no you probably didn't. I would like to see that done with a plain 1500 silverado
There aren't any shocks in the world that can take care of that bed bounce. That is some serious, major, frame flex for the bed to make contact with the cab.
Had a co-worker that took in his 8 year old Toyota to have it checked. They found the frame to be rusted out and kept the truck and gave him a loaner to drive. I asked what they were going to give him for his and he said he was getting $20,000 toward a new Toyota vehicle. Makes me wish I had bought a Tacoma instead of my T-100. Course, I oil the frame every year so it probably would have held up anyhow.
imagine what they will do for the bed bounce buy back!!
QUOTE(FIREATAK @ Apr 4 2008, 02:59 PM)
For the guy who bought his truck in NJ...
They use a ton of salt here, on all roads.
Line licking good for the deer!
They use a ton of salt here, on all roads.
Line licking good for the deer!
Not sure what you mean?
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 4 2008, 08:04 AM)
Well my 01 has about the same mileage on it and sits in the yard year round and the frame is fine. Its also a 1 Ton. When the frame falls apart get back to me.
Oh ok, so you're seven year old yard ornament has less rust/corrosion/cracked body mounts/rotted fuel tank mounts/BROKEN dump body rails than my TEN year old 1-ton dually dump plow truck. That's a surprise. Why would I get back to you? Are you going to replace the vehicle? I hope so because I know Ford won't.
QUOTE(peterepeater @ Apr 5 2008, 03:26 PM)
Oh ok, so you're seven year old yard ornament has less rust/corrosion/cracked body mounts/rotted fuel tank mounts/BROKEN dump body rails than my TEN year old 1-ton dually dump plow truck. That's a surprise. Why would I get back to you? Are you going to replace the vehicle? I hope so because I know Ford won't.
Well 1 its 7.5 years old from when I ordered and picked it up. 2 it just sits outside and isnt garaged and plows and delivers and for the little mileage it has it gets used. 3, you have a fucking dump body on yours??! You are going to compare a Toyota Tacoma to a F350 Dump body and bitch about the condition of yours??? Just sell your truck and go buy a F'n import and stay with em because you are whining about apples and oranges.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 5 2008, 07:34 PM)
Well 1 its 7.5 years old from when I ordered and picked it up. 2 it just sits outside and isnt garaged and plows and delivers and for the little mileage it has it gets used. 3, you have a fucking dump body on yours??! You are going to compare a Toyota Tacoma to a F350 Dump body and bitch about the condition of yours??? Just sell your truck and go buy a F'n import and stay with em because you are whining about apples and oranges.
(1)I'm not comparing at all. I'm simply trying to find your logic in saying that Ford and GM are willing to back their product as well as Toyota's. (2)I'm not bitching about the condition of mine, I'm stating cirumstances that pertain to my situation, not your situation, so like any situation there are going to be differences. (3) I happen to also own an 03 Avalanche that I am very happy with, it's got 110,000 on it and it's just starting to show some surface rust on the frame. Overall, it's a great truck. If Toyota happens to get their Tundra's MPG issues a bit more refined though, I wouldn't hesitate to try one for a bit. Drove my brothers for a day and was very impressed with it. Guys like you crack me up, you're so brand-loyal and ignorant you refuse to try something new simply because of it's name, or because it wasn't "made in america". Do you really think the parts that comprise our "american made" products are in fact manufactured on our side of the pond? Wake up or shut up, the issues your babbling about go well beyond your realm of intellect.
BTW- You're riding an import. And the keyboard that enables you to feel like a hero.....that wasn't made here either.
Just goes to show you they ALL have problems.....even the great
"yotas".I buy American made as much as posssible and my ford was made in Norfolk Virginia has 160,000 miles and not one problem, and the frame is as solid today as the day I bought it. true, some yotas are built in America but the money still goes to Japan.take a look at the economy.....look at all the lost jobs,homes in foreclosure....if you think it wont effect you just keep buying foriegn. soon there will be no middle class....just the rich and the poor.
"yotas".I buy American made as much as posssible and my ford was made in Norfolk Virginia has 160,000 miles and not one problem, and the frame is as solid today as the day I bought it. true, some yotas are built in America but the money still goes to Japan.take a look at the economy.....look at all the lost jobs,homes in foreclosure....if you think it wont effect you just keep buying foriegn. soon there will be no middle class....just the rich and the poor.
QUOTE(rock2324 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:16 PM)
Just goes to show you they ALL have problems.....even the great
"yotas".I buy American made as much as posssible and my ford was made in Norfolk Virginia has 160,000 miles and not one problem, and the frame is as solid today as the day I bought it. true, some yotas are built in America but the money still goes to Japan.take a look at the economy.....look at all the lost jobs,homes in foreclosure....if you think it wont effect you just keep buying foriegn. soon there will be no middle class....just the rich and the poor.
"yotas".I buy American made as much as posssible and my ford was made in Norfolk Virginia has 160,000 miles and not one problem, and the frame is as solid today as the day I bought it. true, some yotas are built in America but the money still goes to Japan.take a look at the economy.....look at all the lost jobs,homes in foreclosure....if you think it wont effect you just keep buying foriegn. soon there will be no middle class....just the rich and the poor.
So your so called polaris motor still has ties too Japan. Take a look. Polaris and Fuji
QUOTE
Feb. 3, 1995--Polaris Industries Inc. (AMEX:SNO) and Fuji Heavy Industries today finalized a joint ownership agreement to form Robin Manufacturing USA, a new Hudson, Wis.-based company which will build small engines for recreation, golf and industrial products.
QUOTE
Fuji, which is based in Tokyo, Japan, will own 60 percent and Minneapolis-based Polaris will own 40 percent of Robin.
So where do you think most of the money goes? I am geussing Fuji!!
Heres the article
http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/t.../7098192-1.html
Im not a fool....I know we live in a global world, hell everything electronic is made over seas!!I just try to buy american as much as possible. my truck has 90% American made parts in it. the manufactures have to display this on the sticker of every vehicle sold in the United States. the camery is under 30% but it is put together in Texes and mfgd in china!!!!as far as I know the Liberty motor is made in the USA.
QUOTE(peterepeater @ Apr 5 2008, 09:48 PM)
(1)I'm not comparing at all. I'm simply trying to find your logic in saying that Ford and GM are willing to back their product as well as Toyota's. (2)I'm not bitching about the condition of mine, I'm stating cirumstances that pertain to my situation, not your situation, so like any situation there are going to be differences. (3) I happen to also own an 03 Avalanche that I am very happy with, it's got 110,000 on it and it's just starting to show some surface rust on the frame. Overall, it's a great truck. If Toyota happens to get their Tundra's MPG issues a bit more refined though, I wouldn't hesitate to try one for a bit. Drove my brothers for a day and was very impressed with it. Guys like you crack me up, you're so brand-loyal and ignorant you refuse to try something new simply because of it's name, or because it wasn't "made in america". Do you really think the parts that comprise our "american made" products are in fact manufactured on our side of the pond? Wake up or shut up, the issues your babbling about go well beyond your realm of intellect.
BTW- You're riding an import. And the keyboard that enables you to feel like a hero.....that wasn't made here either.
BTW- You're riding an import. And the keyboard that enables you to feel like a hero.....that wasn't made here either.
No shit. I am in manufacturing and try to supprt it as much as possible. My point that you dont seem to get is you were bitchign saying they wouldnt back it up and look at your truck and you have an F350 with a dump body so more than likely you plaw, sand, and haul dirt with it. WTF do you expect it to look like after 10 years????! And guys like me being loyal to brands in this country is a bad thing???! I wont generalize "guys like you" as you did with me. You know nothign about me or what I do. But if people demanded we made shit here instead of over there we would be better off.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 5 2008, 07:34 PM)
Well 1 its 7.5 years old from when I ordered and picked it up. 2 it just sits outside and isnt garaged and plows and delivers and for the little mileage it has it gets used. 3, you have a fucking dump body on yours??! You are going to compare a Toyota Tacoma to a F350 Dump body and bitch about the condition of yours??? Just sell your truck and go buy a F'n import and stay with em because you are whining about apples and oranges.
QUOTE(peterepeater @ Apr 5 2008, 09:48 PM)
(1)I'm not comparing at all. I'm simply trying to find your logic in saying that Ford and GM are willing to back their product as well as Toyota's. (2)I'm not bitching about the condition of mine, I'm stating cirumstances that pertain to my situation, not your situation, so like any situation there are going to be differences. (3) I happen to also own an 03 Avalanche that I am very happy with, it's got 110,000 on it and it's just starting to show some surface rust on the frame. Overall, it's a great truck. If Toyota happens to get their Tundra's MPG issues a bit more refined though, I wouldn't hesitate to try one for a bit. Drove my brothers for a day and was very impressed with it. Guys like you crack me up, you're so brand-loyal and ignorant you refuse to try something new simply because of it's name, or because it wasn't "made in america". Do you really think the parts that comprise our "american made" products are in fact manufactured on our side of the pond? Wake up or shut up, the issues your babbling about go well beyond your realm of intellect.
BTW- You're riding an import. And the keyboard that enables you to feel like a hero.....that wasn't made here either.
BTW- You're riding an import. And the keyboard that enables you to feel like a hero.....that wasn't made here either.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 6 2008, 09:51 AM)
No shit. I am in manufacturing and try to supprt it as much as possible. My point that you dont seem to get is you were bitchign saying they wouldnt back it up and look at your truck and you have an F350 with a dump body so more than likely you plaw, sand, and haul dirt with it. WTF do you expect it to look like after 10 years????! And guys like me being loyal to brands in this country is a bad thing???! I wont generalize "guys like you" as you did with me. You know nothign about me or what I do. But if people demanded we made shit here instead of over there we would be better off.
Sounds like someone is unfamiliar with the word "Hypocrite".
QUOTE(peterepeater @ Apr 6 2008, 02:56 PM)
Sounds like someone is unfamiliar with the word "Hypocrite".
Its ok you can get help for it.
QUOTE(Webba @ Apr 6 2008, 03:12 PM)
Its ok you can get help for it.
That some funny shit right there, you sir......are a goddamn genius. Hey, I've got a sweet Arctic Cat for sale, it was made in america too, right down to the Camoplast track and the Suzuki engine.
Yeah, well i bet the Enola Gay is still runnin. those little pricks better watch it!!! 
You are just being a douche. You made the comment that you werent holding your breath to get your 8 year 98 F350 with a rusted this and that paid for at 1.5 times KBB. I am merely pointing out that you have a heavy duty truck, as do I, and I would expect that to see different environments and not hold up like a Toyota Tacoma, F150, of 1/2 ton Sierra. Those woould generally not ber used the same way as our vehicles. But bash away all you like.
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