MIGHT TRY A SKI DOO NEXT SEASON. DONT KNOW IF I SHOULD PICK UP A LEFT OVER 08 OR SNOW CHECK A 09 ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT

I switched over from Cat this year. Forget the gade. Get a 120" XP track. You will loose too much top end getting off the F10. I have an 800r Adrln. The 09's are pretty much the same sled. If you can save 1500 or so, do it. Otherwise get an 09 with a 2 year engine warranty. I bought my 800r in Mid feb. Put 600 miles on it over 2 trips. It was $8800 with their year end blowout deal.

I'll tell you what, it was like 2 seasons this year. A rough, "I'm getting out of snowmobiling" with my 05 F7, to a "wholy crap, I love snowmobiling again!" with the 800r xp.

don't get me wrong i think cat has a great groomed and rough trail sled with the new f series but, I weigh about 140 the new f series is just to heavy for off trail. when you get one stuck you need a army to get out. I would like to know if its worth buying a left over or 09 i like the renagade x not sure 600 or 800

Depends on your budget, colour and the engine choices (and colour options) are all that's different for 09...want the latest in tech, go with the 09 ETech (600), but if you're after the 800R, a left over 08 will doo you well!!

Good luck!

That i dont agree with, stick with the gade. Especially if you spend a lot of time off trail. We have both an 08 renegade and adrenaline in our group and the, adrenaline cant touch either of us (we dont ride trails ever). And no im not braggin up my gade cause i think its the biggest POS i have ever owned, not to mention the ignorant dealer that i bought it from. I am so happy to be going BACK to cat.

08 RENAGADE VS. 09 RENADE, WHATS THE DIFFERANCE?

$300 more this year!

the new 09 motor has heavier crank bearings and better vibration dampening in the motor, all else is the same.

as for a renegade vs. shortie, my renegade will leave a shorty on and off trail.

stick with the gade, better ride quality and a more well rounded sled. great on and off trail.

One of the changes is the three wheel kit on the rear skid vs the two. If you buy an 08, make sure you get the three because to loose one of the outside ones has proven to be catastrophic on the rear skid. If it's an 08 from a dealer, make him do it as part of the deal.

Here are the differences in addition to the new E-tec:

2009 Model Updates


March 28, 2008



Our engineers have been working all winter to address issues we had with 2008 Ski-Doo snowmobiles, as well as further dialing-in calibrations for the 2009 models. We wanted to share with you some of the major changes we have so far:


SC-5 Rear Suspension Calibration


The ’08 SC-5 rear arm was a linear-rate design. So to resist bottoming in the largest “G” bumps, we had to calibrate the shocks and motion ratio quite stiff. Many riders complained that this ride was too harsh.



For 2009, we’re changing the rear arm to a more rising-rate design. The ride will be more compliant in ripples and as the bumps get bigger, the suspension and shocks will work harder. Of course, the rear shock is recalibrated to match the new motion ratio. There’s no trade-off of capability for this improved ride.


Applicable to: All 2009 MX Z X, Renegade X, TNT and Renegade models


Seat Foam


All REV-XP and REV-XR-based models will use a new Super High Density foam for 2009. This foam, similar to the material on the 2008 MX Z Adrenaline sleds, could almost be considered rising-rate – it is softer initially and resists bottoming. Seats are a very important part of ride quality, and this new seat will certainly improve the comfort for all trail riders.


Applicable to: All 2009 REV-XP and REV-XR MX Z, GSX and GTX models


Rotax 1200 4-TEC engine calibration


Two changes here that were NOT reflected in the prototypes that were on the Ride Says it All tour vehicles.


We’ve reduced the feel of 4-stroke engine braking by enabling a small amount of air to bypass the butterfly when you let off the throttle.


And we’ve continued to refine the distinctive performance sound of this engine. There will actually be two exhaust notes – a more performance sound for MX Z sleds, and a bit more refined sound for GSX and GTX models.


Applicable to: All models with 1200 4-TEC engine


Hydroformed Driveshafts


Working with our supplier, the welding and machining process is changed. In terms of quality control, the steel used in creating the axle will be more closely scrutinized and 100% of all shafts will be inspected before leaving the supplier’s factory. This will ensure this key component's reliability going forward.


Applicable to: All REV-XP and REV-XR models


Summit Belts


A new belt was developed especially for the demands of mountain riding. This new belt (part number 417300377) is 4mm shorter and 1mm wider for a better fit in the pulleys and more adjustability for deflection as it wears. And its sophisticated compound resists heat de-lamination and cord pull-out to ensure its longevity.


Summit Clutches


There are also many changes to Summit REV-XP clutches for more consistent RPM and reduced belt temperatures in mountain riding [especially due to better clutch/engine alignment]:


New ramps and spring for the TRA primary
New reverse dual angle cam for the QRS secondary
New roller bushings and sliding sheave bushing
Reduced overall gearing on models with 146-inch track


Handwarmers


To solve this unfortunate issue, we have changed to a more reliable supplier, and these warmers will be standard on all 2009 REV-X models.