arcticcatturbo
Mar 17 2008, 06:01 PM
I'm looking to upgrade sleds yhis spring, summer, or fall I.ve been riding a 04 T660 turbo, I'm definently getting a REV XP. My questions is rather to get a 600 or 800? Did the 800 pan out well for ski-doo? the rumor mill says that it is hard on fuel and ski-doo had trouble with them. Most of the dealers have 800's left but no 600's Where the 600 is excellent and gets tremendous mileage is what I'm hearing. I'm a big boy, 250 LBs, will the 600 haul me around satisfactory? mostly trail ride in Aroostook county, Maine. I'm not a tremendous speed demon but want it when I want it, You know what I mean, I'm sure. Thanks in advance for your imput.
t-bomb
Mar 17 2008, 06:06 PM
what if the foot rest break?LOL they have big holes and are kinda weak.i never try them tho.I think your a lil' to big for a light XP.
1slow800
Mar 17 2008, 06:46 PM
There is no replacement for displacement,there strong, they are holding up well.800 is my vote
Peter King 28
Mar 18 2008, 01:43 PM
The 600 will pull you around just fine. It has more power than your cat. I weigh the same as you and my 2004 600 HO SDI hauls the mail with me on it. The XP does look like a much smaller chassis though...not sure if that will be an issue for you. Take one for a test drive if you can.
StealthRevx800
Mar 20 2008, 10:37 AM
I would opt for the 600 E tec in teh XP chasis. Plenty of power and looks to be bulletproof reliability. I rode one and found it stronger than most other 600's and currently ride an 07 MXZ XRS 800 Powetek. That 600 E tec had plenty of get up and go.
Webba
Mar 21 2008, 05:20 AM
Keep in mind the new sled is alot lighter than the old Rev's. So you may weight 250 but with a 60 lb. weight savings you only weigh 190. No need for a diet just get a lighter sled
killer
Mar 21 2008, 08:26 AM
800 no question
Trail Ryder
Mar 21 2008, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(t-bomb @ Mar 17 2008, 07:06 PM)

what if the foot rest break?LOL they have big holes and are kinda weak.i never try them tho.I think your a lil' to big for a light XP.
Please don't take the opinion of a teenager, who rides a Polaris, seriously.
From someone who actually OWNS and has ridden multiple XPs, the chassis will hold up to you. If you have concerns, SkiDoo offers SnoCross bracing that you can add relatively cheaply.
XP 800 owners are getting between 13 and 20 MPG, depending on clutching, conditions, and the right thumb.
The 600 HO does not give up much to the 800, IMHO, and the E-TEC fuel economy blows away all 2-strokes and any performance 4-stroke.
If you like 4-strokes, check out the SkiDoo XR 4-TEC 1200.
ski-doo_kid
Mar 22 2008, 08:06 AM
He's right, don't beleive the teenager who's jealous cause he's riding a poolaris! Beleive this teengaer who has an xp. I love the 600 engine, and the whole sled itself. The only reason I could see anyone wanting a 800, is if you ride over 100mph. If you don't, there's probably no need. Well that's for a regular mxz or gade, I'm sure the 800 is a lot better in the steep and deep. The 600 will haul you around just fine, I'm only 150 pounds, and find it excellent. My dad however, is about 200 pounds and he still says its plenty or get up and go! Coming off a t660 turbo, the 600 xp should be a nice improvement. You won't be losing anything, that's for sure. I have the sdi, and aparantly the e-tec is better. I don't care for it, sdi is tried and true, runs excellent and it will do whatever any other 600 can do, and more!
Ski-doo_kid
indytriple
Mar 22 2008, 08:14 AM
Go with the 4 stroke, If you ride mostly in the county, thats 4 stroke territory, flat, fast and to the bar all day long. I'm gonna guess the county would turn even an e-tec into a fuel guzzling whore pulling your weight around.
robr1970
Mar 22 2008, 10:27 AM
i'm 6'2 255 without gear and had no problems with my xp (a little over 800 miles put on so far) and i do not ride groomed trails often where i ride. i have the 800 so i cannot comment on the 600. i am not easy on my equipment and have had no strength failures yet. i came off an 04 gade 800x and have a shorty xp800x now, this sled is awesome in the stuff you will love the xp chassis.
busted
Mar 22 2008, 10:40 PM
You know if the prices on the etec6 were 2K less, you might think about it, but they are not. The 800 is a better option due to pricing. I think the 6 e-tec should be in the high 7's.
Scrimmer
Mar 23 2008, 03:14 PM
This is the first year I went to an 800, previous years has been on the 600 HO SDI (wife even still has one). Go with the 800R, no questions, I don't think I could go back to the 600 (I would get the ETech for the wife, though). The power and handling of the 800R is absolutely incredible, but the main question to ask, is can your wallet handle it? Well, can it? (no, seriously, ask your wallet which one to get...she's always right!!)
yamaha nytro 123
Mar 25 2008, 07:27 AM
You know if the prices on the etec6 were 2K less, you might think about it, but they are not. The 800 is a better option due to pricing. I think the 6 e-tec should be in the high 7's.
Think about the money you save in gas and oil. In my opinion even having the 600etec cost alot, they so good on gas and oil, you pretty much end up saving money in the end, i would take one over 800p-tek, but that is also cause i dont feel the need to be ridding a 800, when the 600's can get the job done on the trails.
Mike 800 Ren X
Mar 25 2008, 02:02 PM
Have a 800r Gade and the ride and the pull are great.First time gade buyer and really like the ride on and of trail and the handling of the Gade.Ride with other doo 600 owners and the gas is very close the 600 about .5 gal better per tank or less.The doo chassis is fine and had no problems at all with anything even the hand warmers- I have a November build and so far after 4400 km not a thing broke. Only it stops pullin after 105 mph and slowly goes up after that, can get more with clutching but that is fast enough for me.I did ride a 600 as well and was surprised at how quick it was you would not be disappionted with either machine and maybe the E-tec as well may be the best of all or the 4 stroke... tooo many good choices have fun.
busted
Mar 25 2008, 09:52 PM
The E-tec is great on gas and oil but I don't think it pays to go with that over the 800r. I get 15-16 mpg the E-tec gets almost 20. Snow Tech reported 500 miles per reservoir of oil. I get 350 out of mine on the 800r. My dealer told me the oil is $89 a gallon. So at these numbers on a 300 mile weekend, the Etec would use around 3.75 gal. less or @ $12 less in gas. The e-tec would be @ $50 in oil due to the high cost, the 800r would be $25 in oil. So overall the 800r is less to operate looking at raw numbers.
I wouldn't buy this sled because of the savings. Same as a hybrid car. (you pay more for the hybrid car and never make it up on operational savings). I would buy it because you want a 600 only or a tree-hugging eco-terrorist that must only have the "green" version of everything..
BTW: Dynotech is dynoing the etec around 108-117 HP. Apearantly the water temp makes a huge difference in power output. The 800r is a true 150hp sled.
sledgehammer
Mar 26 2008, 07:05 AM
QUOTE(arcticcatturbo @ Mar 17 2008, 07:01 PM)

I'm looking to upgrade sleds yhis spring, summer, or fall I.ve been riding a 04 T660 turbo, I'm definently getting a REV XP. My questions is rather to get a 600 or 800? Did the 800 pan out well for ski-doo? the rumor mill says that it is hard on fuel and ski-doo had trouble with them. Most of the dealers have 800's left but no 600's Where the 600 is excellent and gets tremendous mileage is what I'm hearing. I'm a big boy, 250 LBs, will the 600 haul me around satisfactory? mostly trail ride in Aroostook county, Maine. I'm not a tremendous speed demon but want it when I want it, You know what I mean, I'm sure. Thanks in advance for your imput.
this years 800r has proved to be a very stout engine. there is no problem there. fuel economy depends on your thumb. you can get 18mpg if you want, or 11 if you ride hard enough. myself i could never go back to a 600, but i'm power hungry. i'm always searching for extra ponies with the 800, cause i like to cruise at 100mph.
if you're 250 i recommend the 800.
one ton fun
Mar 26 2008, 07:29 AM
QUOTE(yamaha nytro 123 @ Mar 25 2008, 09:27 AM)

Think about the money you save in gas and oil. In my opinion even having the 600etec cost alot, they so good on gas and oil, you pretty much end up saving money in the end, i would take one over 800p-tek, but that is also cause i dont feel the need to be ridding a 800, when the 600's can get the job done on the trails.
The Etec will not pay for itself in even 10,000 miles. 2k will buy you a lot of gas and oil. If you average 18 with the SDI and 24 with the etec and gas was $3.50 a gallon you would only save $486 dollars in fuel in 10k miles. 10,000/18= 556 gallons. 556 x 3.50= 1,944.44 10,000/24= 416.6 gallons 416.6 x 3.50= 1458.33 A difference of $486. 11 Dollars. Not sure about oil consumption but It would take more miles than 99% of all riders put on a sled for the etec to pay for itself. If you are getting a 600 try and find a left over 08 SDI as the money you will save will buy you alot of gas and oil. If I were shopping and were considering a skidoo it would the 800r.
Scrimmer
Mar 26 2008, 07:46 AM
QUOTE(busted @ Mar 25 2008, 10:52 PM)

The E-tec is great on gas and oil but I don't think it pays to go with that over the 800r. I get 15-16 mpg the E-tec gets almost 20. Snow Tech reported 500 miles per reservoir of oil. I get 350 out of mine on the 800r. My dealer told me the oil is $89 a gallon. So at these numbers on a 300 mile weekend, the Etec would use around 3.75 gal. less or @ $12 less in gas. The e-tec would be @ $50 in oil due to the high cost, the 800r would be $25 in oil. So overall the 800r is less to operate looking at raw numbers.
I wouldn't buy this sled because of the savings. Same as a hybrid car. (you pay more for the hybrid car and never make it up on operational savings). I would buy it because you want a 600 only or a tree-hugging eco-terrorist that must only have the "green" version of everything..
BTW: Dynotech is dynoing the etec around 108-117 HP. Apearantly the water temp makes a huge difference in power output. The 800r is a true 150hp sled.
You need a new dealer, up here, the semi-synthetic blend is only $30.00 for the gallon, and yes, it's approved for the E-Tech, just read the label. I'm paying just over $40.00 for a gallon of Synthetic, so, in all honesty, the E-Tech would pay for itself...but in more honesty, I still prefer the 800R power, the low end torque of the E-Tech just isn't enough anymore...
800 xp
Mar 26 2008, 03:47 PM
im about 6'2'' 270 pounds, i try my friend 600 and it doesn't pull me in the powder around like my 08 mxz 800. But make sure to get the x package shock. I have a stock alder. and the shocks are as tight as they go and i still bottom out!!!
mxzmac
Mar 27 2008, 06:25 AM
I have a 600HO SDI and I am 6'5" and go 260 it will be fine for riding the county, I also have an 08 Rev XP with the 500SS motor and it is just fine with me on it for trail riding, it will not win any races across the lake but will run about 90 with me on it. The fuel in the 600 will be much better than the 800. I run about 20or 21 with the 600 and about19 with the 500SS
GaderX
Mar 27 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE(busted @ Mar 25 2008, 11:52 PM)

The E-tec is great on gas and oil but I don't think it pays to go with that over the 800r. I get 15-16 mpg the E-tec gets almost 20. Snow Tech reported 500 miles per reservoir of oil. I get 350 out of mine on the 800r. My dealer told me the oil is $89 a gallon. So at these numbers on a 300 mile weekend, the Etec would use around 3.75 gal. less or @ $12 less in gas. The e-tec would be @ $50 in oil due to the high cost, the 800r would be $25 in oil. So overall the 800r is less to operate looking at raw numbers.
I wouldn't buy this sled because of the savings. Same as a hybrid car. (you pay more for the hybrid car and never make it up on operational savings). I would buy it because you want a 600 only or a tree-hugging eco-terrorist that must only have the "green" version of everything..
BTW: Dynotech is dynoing the etec around 108-117 HP. Apearantly the water temp makes a huge difference in power output. The 800r is a true 150hp sled.
Apparently, when the dealers recieved the new oil, they were told that it was $89 a gallon, but it was a mistake. It is $27 gallon like it used to be. Im sure it will go up a little by next year.
GaderX
Mar 27 2008, 10:56 AM
QUOTE(busted @ Mar 23 2008, 12:40 AM)

You know if the prices on the etec6 were 2K less, you might think about it, but they are not. The 800 is a better option due to pricing. I think the 6 e-tec should be in the high 7's.
The Etec should be in the high sevens??? I doubt it. My SDI two years ago was $9,000. (X package). Everything has gone up in price so $10,000 for a sled is not uncommon.
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