Was wondering if anyone had any word on the new Z1 Turbo. Any Power figures released? Compression ratio change from the N/A engine?

its posted all over, including cat's web site, there are even dyno charts in this years brochure, 177 hp 121 lb/ft

THATS An AVERAGE HP-TQ. READING...taken across the spectrum of benchmarks, of different engines, by Suzuki @ the mfg. origin in Japan.

Which means that a particular example can be + or - 5hp- 5ft lbs tq. as delivered in a floormodel.

..from what I understand...for all intents and puposes, AC had to ...de-tune(rate at a lower RPM?) this setup to keep the in -house barri$ters from having a panic attack., and the bar gas fill ups, ..i.e. , the small OEM intercooler and modest fuel 87 oct., requirements, a restrictive Y-pipe (!), again.. for example. No doubt, that this is a 180 ++ trail safe, w/ 93 oct and a small amounts of boost/and or larger intercooler.


If it lives... not many will regret the intial $$ investment.


I will have one,God and Job, willing, by Dec,08..no matter what.

That has to be one of the highest, if not the highest, stock power production HP and torque for a sled. If memory serves me right didn't the 1,000CC Cat make 172HP last year, Maybe more for 09....?? What about Doo's 1,000CC? Wasn't that like 168HP???

Also, at 9psi, they are not pushing it as hard as the Polaris is running 14-15psi. I wonder what the specs on the turbo is. A larger IC, better exhaust, Water/alcohol inj., more boost and tuning and this thing has the potential of being a complete animal providing the turbo is capable....

I said to myself a few years ago if Cat ever put a turbo on the 1050 4-stroke it would be a one mean powerplant!! I am glad to see they did!

Now they need it in a Crossfire 141"!!

Mark my words though, I think we will see Yammy come out with a Super or Turbocharged engine in the next few years. I know that you can get them aftermarket, but that isn't factory and for an add on that is half the price of the sled itself, that is an elitest option.

I'd really like to know how the hell they plan on keeping belts on this sled though. F1000's blow them all the time.

Better yet, how the hell they gonna keep the secondary's from shearing off them stupid torx bolts or destroying that inner bushing.

HAHA the ski dork 1200 makes a wimpy 130 hp. The Z1 would be pretty cool if you turned up the boost a little bit. You would probablly have around 210 hp of reliable 4 stoke to play with.

I was talking about the ski doo 1,000cc 2-stroke.....

77-7800 rpm max running speed ...alot of tq. ..bottom end.Low rpm engagement.. No violent hits on the clutch...this thing is like a smooth steady hyper rush of power, from engagement to 110 mph+,.very linear..Forget all u know about 2 stroke clutching warts, and the DD w/o internal Reverse is a +,(10 lbs. of rotaing mass ..gone).

New ...HP king.177 at only 7850 RPMs Not bad for a low-boost turbo and it’s smooth with no noticeable lag, isn’t anything like the old T660T

Well just some info for you , just rode the turbo z1 sat , at the demo ride ,CAT had 2 09 sleds there ,Z1 LXR, Z1TURBO, has ACT rebuildables all the way around, ride was great, Motor awesome ,quieter that the regular jag, smooth power , no lag pulls harder that any factory trail sled Iv'e ridden , and iv'e ridden many. Thanks to d+d for studding it . I rode it for 3 miles before I had to switch , It left me in awe, and now I need one. 08 jag snopro for sale.....lol!!!!!

How were the Shocks compared to your Sno-Pro for Bottoming? How much do you weigh. Do you think bigger guys will need to upgrade the shocks on the Turbo to keep from Bottoming?

Thanks

Curse those 9 little bastards. LOL!!!

Have any of you guys rode a Ski-Doo Mach Z?
I've had two, both ran 129 MPH on the dream meter and 124 mph on GPS.
I can lift the skis at will at pretty much any speed. They are animals.
Will this Turbo cat run with the Mach at any speed?
I also have an 07 Cat F8 that is by far the best handling, best riding sled I've ever been on.
How will the Turbo Cat ride and handle compaired to my F8 snopro?
I will be buying a Turbo Cat, but can't decide wether to go with the 128" short track or possibly going with the 144" touring?
Any input on this would be great.
Can't wait untill next year to see how they really compair.
I will be keeping my Mach, so it should be a good test.
Thanks!

Shocks were decent, didn't bottom at all, I still prefer floats up front though.I weigh 225lbs with out gear. I had just rode a nytro xtx prior so I was hammer in through the bumps to compare chassis.

Sorry to go off topic, but what exactly does turbo lag feel like? My dad's T660 feels/sounds like its missing sometimes, but only when you go WOT from a crawl. You can climb to full speed gradually and there's no sputter. Is that lag? Or it also takes a while to rev up, like when you want to pop off a road approach by wacking the throttle at the bottom of the incline, it takes almost over a second to rev up and you don't pop over it.

The fist is the lag, the latter would be a clucthing issue.

your mach Z is in trouble, yes I have ridden some machz 118-119 stock sleds, turbo pulls harder and will have more on top, and will handle and ride better than your 07 f8.

That's what I like to hear!
I ordered my turbo today, so I'm pretty fired up.
It's going to be a long summer.
Thanks for the input.

So basically the only time you get turbo lag is when you pin it from a crawl? I can pin it from 40 mph and it won't do it. For the way my dad rides he won't even notice it.

My dad and I are going to the snowmobile show on Monday at the Bell Sensplex in Ottawa. My dad is really thinking of getting the LE turbo. I can't wait to see the new sleds and the new turbo up close! I'm almost 100% sure that my dad will be snowchecking the LE turbo next week sometime!

well the mach z is 175hp out of the box 2stroke power, arctic cat 177hp four stroke, i thnk it will be interesting i wouldnt say the fourstroke will put the mach z into place to easily with only 2hp more, but i had a mach z and u need to be very on top of it to keep it running and it will eventually still blow so im seriously looking at this four stroke

With 125lb/ft of torque, any tripple or twin will have a hard time matching that. Anyone who knows turbos also know that is where they shine. Properly set up, they make lots of torque for a long time, average torque production over a broad RPM range, in otherwords. Simply put, more torque as RPM rises equals more HP and a faster rate of acceleration. Two sleds making identical HP and one with an average torque production of 20-25lb/ft over 2,000RPM WILL accelerate faster, much faster.

The way I see the 4-stroke turbo sleds is this way, Better average torque production than big twins with the top end power of big tripples. Easier (relatively speaking) clutching if you know what you are trying to acheive and know how to do it. 9/10's of a turbo sleds turbo reaction is going to be in the clutching, just as it is tailered to a two strokes powerband it must also be tailered to the turbos response curve, keeping load as the main condsideration.

Unfotunately you get the weight of the big tripples also.....