We went to this FN drunken rez today!! there was quite a few sleds.... turn out was okay!!.... my buddy tyson did good for a first time racer....got 2nd in 700 imp. and 3rd in 700 mod......BUT!!......
the organizers were all drinking... to the point of being drunk and staggering around!!....hometown cheaters were allowed to do anything they wanted at the track....locals yelling at guys trying to help out the racer.....the guy at the finish line being influenced by somebody behind him,,,,basically telling him which way to point the flag....and the local GOOF at the track was a guy on a orange F7...everyone who was there know's who im talking about....."GOOF"...........this guy raced against Thunderdog1 and Thunderdog1 beat him and this "GOOF" ran his sled into Thunderdog1...so he came back saying this guy just hit me and told me he was high on 3oz of crack....so they kicked him out saying he's done he's gone!!..."GOOF" comes back on the same sled wearing a different jacket and different helmet (come on "GOOF" how stupid do you think everybody is...ppl were laughing at you!!)...and of course the guys that just kicked him off 5 or more races ago are standing with him at the board shootin the shit like nothing ever happened...on one of our runs the guy jumps and the guy at the light says "thats not a jump!! To top off my day of disgrace someone stole my race fuel!!",,,,,,,F%*$!N joke that place was!!.......i took some footage and was gonna make a video but this place does NOT deserve the recognition!!

last summer i had the same prob out there. i was racing my quad and the locals were tring to cheat me out of first but i stood my ground and they gave me the win they were all drunk the guy who was holding the race was the flag man and he had to ask some one if i ran a fast time or not. i should have warmed you about that place but i didnt think it would be like that for the snowmobile races.hate to say st martin res is the same way all cheaters dont even try to hide it either freekin stock sleds winning open class. they know who they are!!!!!!.

Yeah I was at their races couple years back and saw the same thing. Flag man drinking/drunk asking buddies standing next to him who won, organizers drinking also and most of the locals. Was also at the mud bogs last summer and saw the same thing. Skownan used to be an all right place to race, there was some drinking but not at the level it is today. That place seems to have gone downhill fast. I doubt I will be going back this summer or for any future drags after what i saw.
As for Lake St. Martin being the same way, I guess somewhat they are in regards to whats "stock"and what isn't. But I don't think it's fair to make a comparison between Lake St. Martin to Skownan, there is little to no drinking amongst the locals spectating and no drinking amongst the organizers and they are at least competent enough to know what they are doing. And watching the races is at least enjoyable without having to worry about what the locals are doing.
If i'm thinking about the same "Stock" sled or sleds you're refering to, it is beatable. I've seen it get beat on more than one occasion. But yeah i highly doubt it's completely stock.

there's gonna be a green f6 coming out to peguis( so called completely stock).......cleaned house at all stock classes right from 600 to 800!!
go figure!!

There's nothing worse than having to put up with a few morons like that. Theres nothing wrong with having a few brews after the event and thats the way it should be! BOOZE FREE TILL AFTER THE EVENT OR ALL TOGETHER! People that host or help with organization should'nt be allowed to run in events like that just to avoid any type conflicts.
Just my opinion.

True!!

just another day on the ........

I went to the drags in skownan, All I can say about it is "GREASY" enough said.

Hate to ask but what won or how were the races in the open or did anyone stay that long.

Was that the snow conditions or the people?

Track wasn't bad, other than the jump at the end of lane 1. Snow was packed, but loosened up as the day went on. People were drunk lots of people. Somebody even stole jerry can full of gas. does that paint a picture for you.

hey speedy is the guys name shannon from st martin it will be a miracle if he come to peguis!!!! everyone says f9 big bore.

Yeah that's him.

That would be LAKE ST.MARTIN FIRST NATION, not St.Martin.

You beat me to it A

tomatoe tomotoe.......LOL......yeah thats where the owner said he was from lake st.marin.......i talked to him before somewhere else in fisherbranch i think....he's "dragonslayer" on this site!!
i talked to him again at the races in drunken cheater town and he was laughing at me saying "it's completely stock".....hey what can you say if the guy cant be honest enough and say he's runnin a F9!!

I don't know why you guys waste your time racing out there, I would go to the states where there are less boozy bucks!!

was that the green & black F6 that basically took every thing except open

yep

I was there too but didn't get to watch the races for awhile I was the one working on the Green F7 in the ditch, there was a pinched line that goes too the fuel pump and it was not getting gas, after that my brother in law was racing the 04 700 switchback and done pretty good, but jump a few times and lost from there. I'm wondering what was under the all black F7 hood, I thought that thing would have been in the open class just like the black/red seat thundercat which was crazy fast. the F6 shouldn't have even raced after the 700 imp class, they're fast but not like that one. There was a good turn out for sleds BUT when booze is involved it dosen't really matter how it turns out, it still turns out to be shitty race day.

no boozers in peguis so come out on sat for a fun day of racing o and its my birthday also we dont drink when we run things there might be people there watching who are drinkin but they keep to them selves

How do any of you guys know for sure that it is a "F9"?? Unless any of you have took a bore gauge to the machine itself(which i doubt), it is all hearsay. I've seen a blue 600SX from Peguis area beat him (think it was driven by some guy named Gin), so what does that make the 600 SX???

if you were not there how do you know its not a F9?..........no stock 600 has ever beaten me until yesterday......FN cheater's!!

How do you know it's an F9?? Please elaborate on how you know this, besides the fact that it beat you. And i've seen it plenty of times, even while it was being worked on.

hey buddy never said i knew it was a F9....if you read back on this thread someone else said its a F9.........

I thought I remembered reading all the same crap went on last year up there. Stay away next time let the f&*kers cheat against themselves.

Ok, you're right you've never actually said it was an 900 but you seem to be implying that it is an F9 as well as other people that have replied. If anyone here has any factual info on the machine and not just hearsay, please elaborate.
But anyways that machine is beatable if you read on of my previous posts in this thread.

You want to know how we used to tell if a guy was cheating ? ... ask him to let you pull a test pass on his sled. He refuses he is usually a cheat.

lol, just what is that supposed to prove? So if the guys 600 is faster than my 600 and he doesn't let me "pull a test pass" on his sled, he's a cheater? I don't think so. I know if i just beat a guy and i don't even know him, there's no way i'm letting him on my machine.

LOL PoRo, you are starting to dig yourself into a bit of a hole here. In your first post you admitted that the sled is probably not stock. And in the post I quoted you, you seem to know the sled and the owner. Why would you defend a cheater? Who cares if it is a F9 or not? Even if he is running a ported 600 in stock 600, the guy should be tossed. There never has been, and never will be, any glory in winning if you are a cheater. But for God's sake, don't defend the guy! This is why "real" tech is so important, on a consistent basis at races everywhere, obviously especially in Skownan, Mb. Let's expose the cheaters rather than defend them!
Bull

I'm not denying the fact that it probably isn't stock. I don't know that myself for sure though. And yeah ok i don't believe that he should be running in the stock classes if it is in fact not stock. But if he entered 600 and 700 improved and won, then are those results not valid??

LOL Only if his bore was 600 cc's.......plus the guy ran stock classes. Expose the cheater.

Dido !!

so what do you say about the 800 class that he took first in???...even i have a hard time beating a 800 with my 700 improved sled....i can beat 800's but just barely!!
so if it is a F9 i dont deny the fact that he beat my F7 with a F9!!....it is beatable cause we did win against it in one of our runs.

You all know whats going to happen before even going. Hasn't changed....never will.

Dido X 2 !!

Is this the undergound "HATERS" club?, people hate when they lose to me,but I just found out this is where they cry...

I'm not a racer and don't pretended to be one BUT if I was I'd let this thread die cuz you'll never prove/disprove what this guy has done to his machine. Only thing is that he'll probably never show for a properly sanctioned race to run in the stock class. (just an assumption) hmmmmmm........ wonder why?? (Funny how you'd post a reply under a different name?)

He never won the 800 stock. I knocked his cheating ass out.

WOW, first time I looked at this since the races, lots of posts. I took first in 700, 800 improved, ZR900dude drove my pro stock poo to a second in 800 mod then he schooled my F7 with his open sled and I took second.

GT500LC, if you wanted to look to see what was under my hood you should have come over I would gladly open it for you to have a look. I also heard other people talking about what was under my hood. I went and spoke to the organizer of the race and offered my sled up for tech, pull the plugs and bore gauge. I will just take this opportunity to mention that I don't play like that. If at any time someone wants my sled teched you can go right ahead, have the tech come over and tech it up. Just for the record also my sled was teched at Hay Days, no problem. I put a brand new set of stock F7 pistons in at the start of the season. My sled is a true improver, built to spec by the ISR book. My sled has D&D improver pipes, ported, heads cut, box etc. pick up a book and check it out they are all allowed in ISR. Enough about that, just wanted to get my point across, I don't cheat.

On another note, Speedwerker had his gas stolen and my wife caught some other guys eye balling mine in the back of the truck.

Tyson the guy driving for Speedwerker looked like he was having a hell of a time piloting that F7 and ran hard all day. Nice to see someone having a good time thats what it's all about.

I think I got the F7 setup now, many, many hours in the garage on that thing like most other drag racers.

I won't be racing in Skownan again though. A little too wild for me, enough said.

See ya all in Peguis, hope it's a nice day, let's go racin.

Thunder

Hey Thunderdog1 I'm not saying you were cheating it's just the impression that the sled gives off, all black lowered and sounds wicked and I'm not the only one that thinks that either. When you go too these bush races that have nobody in the officals or organizers knows what kinda mods you can do in ISR stock, imp, mod, open or even pro stock, then there are going to be mouthy people all the time, but if you have a very good tech advisior then there should be no problems is what I'm trying too get at here.


Someone said on here that the F6(F9) was to go too a well taken care of race with a very good tech he wouldn't have done as good as he did in skownan.


Thunderdog1 I think we are going too the Peguis races not sure yet but hope too see U there and maybe get a few pointers from U LOL

Someone said that "Dragon Slayer" is the guy with the F6, I dont think that's him unless I am mistaken.

No the "STOCK" F6 isn't mine, it belongs to a good friend of mine. I say "STOCK" because that's exactly what it is. Everytime we go racing it's the same story. The F6 has passed tech numerous times at different events. The F6 is all clutching and gearing, we have never even touched the suspension, it's all original.

F7's even F8's it doesn't matter, you can have all the power you want but it ain't going to do shit if it ain't clutched and geared right. It's fun reading all these posts from all these guys who can't run with a 600. In skownan we also offered any machine we had there for tech and they accepted, no one ever came over to tech but the invitation was there.

speedwerker, WTF, at the track you were all buddy buddy and as soon as you get home you call us FN CHEATERS! There's so much info your posts are missing. What about the black sabercat 600 that you raced in the 700 imp semi final, that race was so close it could have been called a tie. If you lost that race would you be posting trash about that machine also? You also forgot to mention when I was telling you the F6 was all stock , I told you to go and get your compression tester or bore tester and tech the machine yourself. The F6 did not win 1st in 800 stock, it took 2nd. Not bad for a 600 stocker.

Thunderdog1 and ZR900dude were cool. I asked to take a few pics of their machines and they were more than happy to let me do so. My son thought the green and white cat was the coolest thing he has ever seen. They had nothing to hide, without asking they opened the hoods and let me take a few pics of the motors. Thanx guys, appreciate it!

Just popcorm? They have beer too.

Dragonslayer i was talking to you because you were talking to me.....never once said i was your buddy!!...........i have adjustable clutching and did quite a bit of testing and got its peak power thru what i can feel. i can beat 800's but just barely all the time.....im happy with that...dont need to cheat everybody out of a win.....the way it is right now its stock improved.........nothing done on the motor......just clutched, geared, pipe, reed spacer's and fuel reducer...removed the highflow air intake and loud can!!
i called you FN cheaters cause of what i was told on this site if you read back i never once said anything about that being a f9!!.....then someone pm'd me and said that its a f8.......so??
were you at russell?....if not i wonder why?.......take it to a sanctioned race and lets see if you run in the 600 stock class!!.
sandy bay is dead and gone to me so dont even go there!!

i went to these races with the intentions of having a good time!!
i went there to race and make a video.........love racing!!
dont think i'll be going to just any reserve again to race.
so fusion9...hope you guys are planning on teching!!

oh yeah i didnt race in skownan my buddy raced for me.....wanted him to see what its like...he had a blast!!.....lol....he was nervous as hell going for his first run!!

[quote name='Dragon Slayer' date='Feb 25 2008, 10:37 AM' post='3699650']
No the "STOCK" F6 isn't mine, it belongs to a good friend of mine. I say "STOCK" because that's exactly what it is. Everytime we go racing it's the same story. The F6 has passed tech numerous times at different events. The F6 is all clutching and gearing, we have never even touched the suspension, it's all original.

F7's even F8's it doesn't matter, you can have all the power you want but it ain't going to do shit if it ain't clutched and geared right. It's fun reading all these posts from all these guys who can't run with a 600. In skownan we also offered any machine we had there for tech and they accepted, no one ever came over to tech but the invitation was there.

speedwerker, WTF, at the track you were all buddy buddy and as soon as you get home you call us FN CHEATERS! There's so much info your posts are missing. What about the black sabercat 600 that you raced in the 700 imp semi final, that race was so close it could have been called a tie. If you lost that race would you be posting trash about that machine also? You also forgot to mention when I was telling you the F6 was all stock , I told you to go and get your compression tester or bore tester and tech the machine yourself. The F6 did not win 1st in 800 stock, it took 2nd. Not bad for a 600 stocker.



Buddy first, I was Racing speedwerker's F7, and yes it was my first time racing, but not my first time at a race event. To tell you the truth I beat that black sabercat, I seen with my own eyes. also I have video of me getting ripped off on three races. 2 clearly jump starts 900 dragon, f1000 nothing said....too busy boozin I guess. and MXZ 800 semis in 800 mod a little close. but hay who cares. what's done is done.
If that is the big man talking smack with his so called "600 stocker" you should race it yourself than brag how fast it is. Don't backseat Charlie your buddies work on your sled.
everytime I see you never race. and I only see you on reserve races. You passed tech numerous times you said. easy to pass tech on any reserve. easy.

There was a 900 Dragon there? I thought they only made 600 and 700 Dragons? Or was this a modded machine?
Oh and BTW i'm pretty sure that "Dragon Slayer" is not the owner of the F6, unless ownership has changed hands over the winter. And I don't see any smack talking being said from him either. He posted once and it was to mainly defend his buddies sled, it was the thread starter than came on and started calling them "FN cheaters".
But anywho if you feel so strongly about it confront them next time you see them somewhere. And bring a bore gauge with you, he did after all state in his post he offered you to tech it yourselves.