canadatakeoffeh
Feb 28 2004, 12:05 AM
deos any one think that the doondocker liquid nitrous kit would be any good?
jalanzrr
Feb 28 2004, 12:23 AM
No, I do not like the way their system works. They say that the increased airbox pressure helps boost the amount of fuel added to the mixture (via fuel bowl vents), but who is to say the increase in airbox pressure is increasing the fuel mix in correlation to the actual amount of nitrous oxide being added to the intake charge? This means you need to jet on the rich side to be sure when you use the nitrous oxide, you aren't running too lean. This also means that when you aren't using the nitrous oxide, you are running rich. Nitrous oxide can be devistating to a motor if used without the proper amount of fuel added, and their system just seems to rely on too many variables to make it dependable and safe. I think the only way to go is the way cars have been doing it with carbs for years- separate nitrous oxide and fuel jets that supply the engine with the mixture when in use. Don't you think if you could do it the way their system works people would have been doing it on cars by now? :frech32:
PolarisNut
Feb 28 2004, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(jalanzrr @ Feb 28 2004, 01:23 AM)
Don't you think if you could do it the way their system works people would have been doing it on cars by now? :frech32:
Yeah, its called a "dry shot" and people have been doing it for years. The fuel injectors take care of adding additional fuel. Nitrous can be plenty safe as long as you have it setup correctly. Boondocker kits seem to be more popular with the mountain crowd. Check out snowest.com. You do have to limit yourself to how long you're "on the juice" as combustion temp will soar quickly.
jalanzrr
Feb 28 2004, 08:29 PM
Thanks for the info on the car 'dry shot' systems, but I still stand by my opinion on the Boondocker system. After some quick research, I found that on cars you need to add a solenoid or some other way to get the injectors to flow more fuel. Motorcycle systems actually have an oxygen sensor in the airbox which sees the additional oxygen and enrich the mixture. Boondockers claims their system will work on carbed sleds by increasing airbox pressure and the carb bowl presure via the vent tubes. Dry systems are not for carbed engines, and fuel injection systems need to enrich the mixture electronically, unless there is a oxygen sensor in the airbox- Boondockers does none of this.
canadatakeoffeh
Feb 28 2004, 10:13 PM
so i i do go for the nitrous would u recomend the carbs to get re jeted? and should i do the jetting my slef or should i let a dealer do it
PolarisNut
Feb 29 2004, 01:03 PM
Dry kits work one of two ways on fuel injected motors...1)raising fuel rail pressure, therefore increasing fuel delivery. 2)By shooting the nitrous through the mass air flow sensor allowing the PCM to see the added air and it in turn adds more fuel by pulsing the injectors longer. The Boondockers kit increases float bowl pressure (the opposite of tempaflow-like products) to increase fuel flow. I can't really say too much about it because I've never used it, but the mountain guys really like it and I've yet to hear of a motor going down if that means anything.
canadatakeoffeh
Feb 29 2004, 08:19 PM
thats sweet then!!! ya i hope it doesnt blow my motor up too lol!!!!
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