Hi guys, I'm feeling like crap right now cus my phazer wont crank fast enough to start unless I boost it, and If I do charge the battery, it just barly stays charged (if I leave the hand and thumb warmers off), but otherwise the battery is to dead to start it even in like -10 weather. this bothers me deaply. please give your input on the matter and if you dont know whats wrong then you could cheer me up by maby telling me some happy phazer riding stories.
Full Version: I want to cry, some one help me!!!
Do you have the new cold weather update?
no I dont yet, my dealer is giving me a real hard time with that. But the thing I dont understand is why my phazer would start great even in like minus 25 and now (over night basicly) it wont start in even minus 10, I fear that somthing els might be wrong with it!?!?
I am not a certified mech just a farmer,
1st check all connections on the battery, selinod, etc. Next I would check the charging/ battery system voltage. If you have a volt meter check the battery with the grd(-) cable disconected, then hook it back up and start the motor and check again to see if your engine is putting out a charge. It won't run right if your computer doesn't have the proper voltage either.
Can you have your dealer check the battery to see if it is bad under a load?
Maybe drop the skid plate and check connections on starter.
Good luck, really the starting system isn't that complicated.
1st check all connections on the battery, selinod, etc. Next I would check the charging/ battery system voltage. If you have a volt meter check the battery with the grd(-) cable disconected, then hook it back up and start the motor and check again to see if your engine is putting out a charge. It won't run right if your computer doesn't have the proper voltage either.
Can you have your dealer check the battery to see if it is bad under a load?
Maybe drop the skid plate and check connections on starter.
Good luck, really the starting system isn't that complicated.
Did you leave the ignition key on?that would drain it,did this on my RX1 and had to re-place with new one.Never forgot again!
thanks alot for the ideas I will try them out shortly.
I dont think I left the key on but ya never know I guess eh?
I dont think I left the key on but ya never know I guess eh?
heres what i do. search the forums and ty4stroke.com forums for others with issues of hard starting or starting problems. print the stack of info you find out. highlight the good parts. throw it on his desk.
tell him it is an issue and you want it fixed and fixed now.
warranty repairs are cake for the dealer. they just act like owh this and owh that. bull. in service they pull down a drop box and select warranty when the workorders written up. that hard.
god i hate dick dealers.
tell him it is an issue and you want it fixed and fixed now.
warranty repairs are cake for the dealer. they just act like owh this and owh that. bull. in service they pull down a drop box and select warranty when the workorders written up. that hard.
god i hate dick dealers.
QUOTE(gerard143 @ Jan 28 2008, 12:52 PM) 
heres what i do. search the forums and ty4stroke.com forums for others with issues of hard starting or starting problems. print the stack of info you find out. highlight the good parts. throw it on his desk.
tell him it is an issue and you want it fixed and fixed now.
warranty repairs are cake for the dealer. they just act like owh this and owh that. bull. in service they pull down a drop box and select warranty when the workorders written up. that hard.
god i hate dick dealers.
tell him it is an issue and you want it fixed and fixed now.
warranty repairs are cake for the dealer. they just act like owh this and owh that. bull. in service they pull down a drop box and select warranty when the workorders written up. that hard.
god i hate dick dealers.
you and me both man!
If my dealer doesnt start working for me I'm gonna have to do what you were saying there
QUOTE(zrt001 @ Jan 27 2008, 09:28 PM)
I am not a certified mech just a farmer,
1st check all connections on the battery, selinod, etc. Next I would check the charging/ battery system voltage. If you have a volt meter check the battery with the grd(-) cable disconected, then hook it back up and start the motor and check again to see if your engine is putting out a charge. It won't run right if your computer doesn't have the proper voltage either.
Can you have your dealer check the battery to see if it is bad under a load?
Maybe drop the skid plate and check connections on starter.
Good luck, really the starting system isn't that complicated.
1st check all connections on the battery, selinod, etc. Next I would check the charging/ battery system voltage. If you have a volt meter check the battery with the grd(-) cable disconected, then hook it back up and start the motor and check again to see if your engine is putting out a charge. It won't run right if your computer doesn't have the proper voltage either.
Can you have your dealer check the battery to see if it is bad under a load?
Maybe drop the skid plate and check connections on starter.
Good luck, really the starting system isn't that complicated.
Do what he said, then check the voltage at the battery before starting, then check the voltage with the engine running. With the engine running the voltage should be 13.5 to 14 volts (aprox). With a good battery and starter the sled should crank over at 270 rpm. If the engine cranks slower than 270, the battery is weak OR the starter is weak. The starter will act weak and eventually run backwards if the magnetic stator is out of phase with the brush assembly (index line on brish assembly in line with green mark on stator). This will happen if the starter clamping bolts get loose.
Check each thing step be step and you will find the problem.
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