Schiffy
Jan 14 2008, 10:24 AM
Ok so I bought my nephew his own 1997 440ZR and my Brother takes my F7 Limited Edition Patriot as his the backup sled for a trip. I tell him that I don’t want ANYONE using my F7 and he thinks I am being unreasonable. So I post this Question.
Who would you let ride your primary snowmobile? My answer NO ONE.
weatherman
Jan 14 2008, 10:41 AM
QUOTE(Schiffy @ Jan 14 2008, 11:24 AM)

Ok so I bought my nephew his own 1997 440ZR and my Brother takes my F7 Limited Edition Patriot as his the backup sled for a trip. I tell him that I don’t want ANYONE using my F7 and he thinks I am being unreasonable. So I post this Question.
Who would you let ride your primary snowmobile? My answer NO ONE.
My parents both ride, and either of them are welcome to my sled whenever they need - other than that, no one comes to mind that I would hand it over to. I don't blame you on this one.
legend700
Jan 14 2008, 10:43 AM
I don't care who rides it as long as they realize they pay for anything that happens to it as far as physical damage goes. If they blew up the motor as long as there was oil and coolant in it I'd let that go because it could just as easily happened with me riding it.
This is the first winter I haven't had a spare sled but I've let friends and family use my spare for the last 4 seasons with no issues.
weatherman
Jan 14 2008, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(legend700 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:43 AM)

I don't care who rides it as long as they realize they pay for anything that happens to it as far as physical damage goes. If they blew up the motor as long as there was oil and coolant in it I'd let that go because it could just as easily happened with me riding it.
This is the first winter I haven't had a spare sled but I've let friends and family use my spare for the last 4 seasons with no issues.
I think a spare is a different story. If I had a spare, I'd allow anyone responsible enough to pay for damages. But even though I'm a reasonable person, I'd be p*ssed if there was snow on the ground, and my sled was in the shop - and it happened to break while someone else was riding it. I'd much rather break it myself. Ok, so maybe thats not very reasonable.......
schifty
Jan 14 2008, 10:55 AM
couch surfing got u a little grumpy bro? Jr realy wanted to ride the F7 I stood up for your sled and said no. if a tree fall in the woods.....
turtleheadking
Jan 14 2008, 10:56 AM
I have let friends use my sleds, and they know. Crash, you buy it. If they don't like it, go buy your own shit. I personally would only let the Adult who you are giving the sled to use it. Remember, the nice guy always get's screwed. The last thing you need is everyone with them taking turns hammering the hell out of it.
legend700
Jan 14 2008, 10:58 AM
QUOTE(weatherman @ Jan 14 2008, 11:46 AM)

I think a spare is a different story. If I had a spare, I'd allow anyone responsible enough to pay for damages. But even though I'm a reasonable person, I'd be p*ssed if there was snow on the ground, and my sled was in the shop - and it happened to break while someone else was riding it. I'd much rather break it myself. Ok, so maybe thats not very reasonable.......
I've been looking for an excuse for new iron so if someone broke mine I'd just buy a new one but I hear what your saying. If you feel that way don't even let your brother take it as a spare so theres no temptation to ride it
Schiffy
Jan 14 2008, 11:03 AM
QUOTE(schifty @ Jan 14 2008, 11:55 AM)

couch surfing got u a little grumpy bro? Jr realy wanted to ride the F7 I stood up for your sled and said no. if a tree fall in the woods.....
Throttle Cop
SnowCrazed
Jan 14 2008, 11:08 AM
As others have said, only if they can pay for it the next business day if they wreck it will I do it. Although some years ago I let a buddy use Mrs. Crazed sled, my new rule is they have to be a sledder and can pay for it the next business day if they wreck it.
Tabor Rider
Jan 14 2008, 11:08 AM
I let friends or family try it out on our property or if I swap off with another bud that I'm riding with. As for letting anyone borrow it to go riding and possibly use or abuse it in a way that that I wouldn't... nope!Lots of wear and tear can rack up that isn't visible right away especially if you are not familiar with all the quirks that an individual sled may have. I'll let you borrow my pickup though! Go figure!?
IcePrincess
Jan 14 2008, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(legend700 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:43 AM)

I don't care who rides it as long as they realize they pay for anything that happens to it as far as physical damage goes. If they blew up the motor as long as there was oil and coolant in it I'd let that go because it could just as easily happened with me riding it.
This is the first winter I haven't had a spare sled but I've let friends and family use my spare for the last 4 seasons with no issues.
I would let any of my friends or family (accept my husband) ride mine in the yard or field near the house, but I am not comfortable with anyone taking it out for the day, but me! Call me selfish but its MINE

!!!!! I am not like that with anything else but with this...it is mine, all mine...my husband isn't allowed to ride it cause the minute he gets on it he thinks he needs to modify the crap out of it...and he rides like a bat out of hell too...thats my baby...don't want him racing around on it...and boy I would be ticked if he screwed something up. Better to leave it just for me...that way no hard feelings.
800ho
Jan 14 2008, 11:16 AM
Call me a dick, but I don't borrow peoples equipment so I don't lend out mine.
tundrafreak
Jan 14 2008, 11:37 AM
Primary sled? - Where I can see em and within reason....other than that nope.
Spare - I take friends occassionally. Two never offered to put gas in it so I have never offered again, but the majority have been more than appreciative. Its a learning experience in human nature for sure.
Schiffy
Jan 14 2008, 11:50 AM
QUOTE(SnowCrazed @ Jan 14 2008, 12:08 PM)

As others have said, only if they can pay for it the next business day if they wreck it will I do it. Although some years ago I let a buddy use Mrs. Crazed sled, my new rule is they have to be a sledder and can pay for it the next business day if they wreck it.
Some more information about the situation, my nephew drove the 440 into a tree last year. My brother says that he cannot pay for a new clutch so how can he afford a new sled if he breaks mine. And at 8000 miles the remaining ones belong to ME.
jethroxlt
Jan 14 2008, 11:54 AM
Only if I am trying someone elses sled will I let someone else ride mine. So as long as I am right there, riding with them, I will let anyone responsable ride my sled.
F6 SFD
Jan 14 2008, 12:08 PM
I've only let one other person ride my F6 and that was because I was riding his sled. He wanted to see how it felt compared to his 2001 MXZ 600 (totally different animals). We didn't ride for too long before I wanted back on my sled. Other than that, I have not, and will not, let anyone else ride my sled. It's my baby and I know no one around me could afford to pay for it if it got damaged (other than my father).
holdin' it to the grip
Jan 14 2008, 12:14 PM
Ok, so I have to be honest and seem selfish here....but no one other than me and my husband can sit on my sled..nevermind ride it!
Polarisleds83
Jan 14 2008, 12:34 PM
well i bought a spare for this reason, but now that i have poured a crap load of money blood and sweat i am skeptical.... as for my primary hell no, mostly because i dont trust my self on it yet.
dgree
Jan 14 2008, 02:59 PM
I'd never let anyone take any of our sleds without me or my middle son with them....
Ya I let some friends try them out in the back field, but not on a ride or a trip.
Immediate family's a little different. My primary sled I'd only let the same son and my youngest son ride it without me there, just a ride, not a weekend trip. Plus they have to catch me in a good mood, I've said no to them more than a few time cause I don't want it to become a habbit. Christ they have there own sleds anyway, they just want the one that rides the best....
I used to let my kids friends ride our spare sled and it always came back broken. That stopped, it got into a pissing contest on who did what. Now its drinking antifreeze. Live and learn, never again.
Schiffy
Jan 14 2008, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(legend700 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:58 AM)

I've been looking for an excuse for new iron so if someone broke mine I'd just buy a new one but I hear what your saying. If you feel that way don't even let your brother take it as a spare so theres no temptation to ride it
we share a house in Vermont and he says that if im not there he just does as he wants
snojockey
Jan 14 2008, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(Schiffy @ Jan 14 2008, 11:24 AM)

Ok so I bought my nephew his own 1997 440ZR and my Brother takes my F7 Limited Edition Patriot as his the backup sled for a trip. I tell him that I don’t want ANYONE using my F7 and he thinks I am being unreasonable. So I post this Question.
Who would you let ride your primary snowmobile? My answer NO ONE.
Is he concerned his primary sled will not make it through the trip....if so maybe he shouldn't make the trip.An F7 is no child's toy whether it's in the hands of a adult or teen!....Knock on wood,it's been a while since I have broken something on a sled but when I did we ended the trip early and returned home...good luck!
dogthehunter
Jan 14 2008, 07:45 PM
I can't think of anyone that I would let ride my sled! No freakin way! Dog
UnluckyDiablo
Jan 14 2008, 08:09 PM
Wow, you guys are hardcore! I do understand where you're comming from though. In my case I'm the least experienced rider in our group, and I also have the newest sled. Everyone wants to give it a shot and I have no problem with that. I trust all of them with my life (sometimes literally) and am fine with them taking my machine for a rip, since they are all responsible riders, and all much better riders than I am.
As we sat on the side of a large field where we were fooling around, a family pulled in. We were just talking and the father and kids started doing some runs up and down the field. The dad stopped by us and we chatted for a bit. He asked about the nytro, and how it felt for a 4 stoke. My response was to turn it on and tell him "take it up and down the field a time or two." He babied it (being respectful), had some fun, and changed his opinion of a what a 4 stroke could do to boot. It was nice chatting with him and I felt comfortable watching him ride it since I'd seen him handle his own sled on some high speed runs. Maybe I'm crazy, I just like shareing the sport and enjoying others company. If I hadn't seen him out riding a few times before, or watched him make those runs, I wouldn't have. Guess I'm just friendly.
Some other riders came in that my friend had met before. When we inquired about their Z1 they hopped off it and had my friend take it up and down the field. Same sort of thing, just being friendly riders. All in all a fun experience and everyone had a good time.
snojockey
Jan 14 2008, 08:12 PM
QUOTE(UnluckyDiablo @ Jan 14 2008, 09:09 PM)

Wow, you guys are hardcore! I do understand where you're comming from though. In my case I'm the least experienced rider in our group, and I also have the newest sled. Everyone wants to give it a shot and I have no problem with that. I trust all of them with my life (sometimes literally) and am fine with them taking my machine for a rip, since they are all responsible riders, and all much better riders than I am.
As we sat on the side of a large field where we were fooling around, a family pulled in. We were just talking and the father and kids started doing some runs up and down the field. The dad stopped by us and we chatted for a bit. He asked about the nytro, and how it felt for a 4 stoke. My response was to turn it on and tell him "take it up and down the field a time or two." He babied it (being respectful), had some fun, and changed his opinion of a what a 4 stroke could do to boot. It was nice chatting with him and I felt comfortable watching him ride it since I'd seen him handle his own sled on some high speed runs. Maybe I'm crazy, I just like shareing the sport and enjoying others company. If I hadn't seen him out riding a few times before, or watched him make those runs, I wouldn't have. Guess I'm just friendly.
Some other riders came in that my friend had met before. When we inquired about their Z1 they hopped off it and had my friend take it up and down the field. Same sort of thing, just being friendly riders. All in all a fun experience and everyone had a good time.
...I can tell you about a horror story that took place on Woodford lake about 8 years...I bet you would never let a stranger jump on your sled ever again.
UnluckyDiablo
Jan 14 2008, 08:19 PM
Perhaps. I'll admit it was a risk, but so was when my friend let me take his brand new clutched Rev 800 around the field when I had never ridden a sled before. For the record, i hung it on a rock hard. Not the same risk by any means, but a risk none the same. I guess part of it was being only a mile from home where he has ridden all his life, maybe I'm just wrong in the head. I totally get why someone wouldn't let anyone touch their sled, I guess I just have a wider boundry. I wouldn't mind hearing that story (you can pm it to me if you don't want to post it).
Snow Dawg
Jan 14 2008, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(snojockey @ Jan 14 2008, 09:12 PM)

...I can tell you about a horror story that took place on Woodford lake about 8 years...I bet you would never let a stranger jump on your sled ever again.
So... You going to keep us in suspense....Or tell us the story?
Schiffy
Jan 14 2008, 08:44 PM
QUOTE(UnluckyDiablo @ Jan 14 2008, 09:09 PM)

Wow, you guys are hardcore! I do understand where you're comming from though. In my case I'm the least experienced rider in our group, and I also have the newest sled. Everyone wants to give it a shot and I have no problem with that. I trust all of them with my life (sometimes literally) and am fine with them taking my machine for a rip, since they are all responsible riders, and all much better riders than I am.
As we sat on the side of a large field where we were fooling around, a family pulled in. We were just talking and the father and kids started doing some runs up and down the field. The dad stopped by us and we chatted for a bit. He asked about the nytro, and how it felt for a 4 stoke. My response was to turn it on and tell him "take it up and down the field a time or two." He babied it (being respectful), had some fun, and changed his opinion of a what a 4 stroke could do to boot. It was nice chatting with him and I felt comfortable watching him ride it since I'd seen him handle his own sled on some high speed runs. Maybe I'm crazy, I just like shareing the sport and enjoying others company. If I hadn't seen him out riding a few times before, or watched him make those runs, I wouldn't have. Guess I'm just friendly.
Some other riders came in that my friend had met before. When we inquired about their Z1 they hopped off it and had my friend take it up and down the field. Same sort of thing, just being friendly riders. All in all a fun experience and everyone had a good time.
I have no problem letting someone ride my sled when i am there to watch or if i switch off and ride theirs. I just dont want anyone doing it when im not and taking my sled for a 200 mile ride
sledhead777
Jan 14 2008, 08:53 PM
QUOTE(800ho @ Jan 14 2008, 08:16 AM)

Call me a dick, but I don't borrow peoples equipment so I don't lend out mine.
I pretty much agree with 800ho, i hate borrowing other peoples stuff and i'd be extremely uncomfortable lending out either of my sleds, spare or not
one ton fun
Jan 14 2008, 09:55 PM
My dad, My girlfriend and a few close friends and thats it for me. I let my mom ride my last sled it it came back all scrathed up. Atleast she didn't get hurt!
EDGEX
Jan 15 2008, 06:15 AM
Sorry, Long story but it might help you decide if you let people use your sleds. I used to let people ride them.....Until 10 years ago, I let a friend use my wifes sled(97 Polaris Ultra SPX SE), it was 2 yrs old w/2500 miles and another friend use my oldest sons sled, ( 88 Indy 400). I knew if something happened they would make good, Well we go on our annual guys trip to Maine, the second or third day the guy riding sons sled breaks some suspension parts, no dealer has the parts, So the next day we have to drive to Caribou from Millinocket to get some used parts, buy all the parts and upgrade suspension at the same time, I split the cost with him as a sign of good faith. Well we get back to the cabin I notice the other loaned sled has the cover on it, I make the comment here we go the trying to play a joke on me. One guy comes out of the cabin as say that the user of my wifes sled had a little trouble today, I start laughing, figuring they are playing a joke, then another guy comes out and tells me they had just got back from the hospital nothing but bumps and bruises for the rider. So now I take the cover off the sled, not a pretty site, He had gone off the trail at about 100mph, hit a boulder(about the size of a VW beattle), launched the sled, rider stayed with it for about 75 feet then it landed taillight first, rider went one way sled endod for about 200' down the trail. Rider layed motionless for about 10 minutes then came to. So I go into the cabin and the guy is so apologetic, says he has been on phone all day trying to find a sled to replace it. Well we both agree the sled is worth at least $5000, he then says help to your truck lets go to the Polaris dealer, they have a 99 500 XC still in the crate, he replaced the sled right there, almost, The next day I drive him from Millinocket to Worcester Mass where his wife meets us to bring him home(Spfld area), later that day he wires the money to the dealer, Sled replaced.
When I get home he foots the bill for the reverse kit, studs and everything that the other sled had, and actually I made out in the deal, the Ultra was really to big and heavy for the wife, the XC was perfect for her, she rode it a couple years then to a 03 600 Classic now an 06 600HO Fusion. So from that time on, If you don't live in my house you don't ride my sleds except one friend I would let take any one of them anytime(No, Not the same guy who wrecked the sled) Here's a couple picks of the what was left of the Ultra.

VTCat900
Jan 15 2008, 08:26 AM
My brother is the only other person I let ride my sled.
dgree
Jan 15 2008, 08:44 AM
QUOTE(Schiffy @ Jan 14 2008, 04:00 PM)

we share a house in Vermont and he says that if im not there he just does as he wants
Really, thats kinda of a poor attitude. Where's the trust? Oh ya he's your brother? So does this mean you have to lock it up or take a part with you so he won't be able to take it?
schifty
Jan 15 2008, 09:03 AM
QUOTE(dgree @ Jan 15 2008, 09:44 AM)

Really, thats kinda of a poor attitude. Where's the trust? Oh ya he's your brother? So does this mean you have to lock it up or take a part with you so he won't be able to take it?
I'm the head mechanic and have done all maintance and repairs for the almost 20,000 miles we,ve put on these sleds. I've earned the right to bring a backup sled for parts or if needed to save my ride. I think the couch surfing comment got by bro a little grumpy. He knows if anything happend his sled would be fixed or replaced b4 his next ride.
Schiffy
Jan 15 2008, 09:53 AM
QUOTE(schifty @ Jan 15 2008, 10:03 AM)

I'm the head mechanic and have done all maintance and repairs for the almost 20,000 miles we,ve put on these sleds. I've earned the right to bring a backup sled for parts or if needed to save my ride. I think the couch surfing comment got by bro a little grumpy. He knows if anything happend his sled would be fixed or replaced b4 his next ride.
Who paid for all the parts for that 17,000 miles. I just dont think that when i have to WORK on a weekend i need to worry about someone using my sled. Look at your sled. Who paid for the new track, the new pistons, the new skis. Who bought your son a sled so that you have someone to ride with when i WORK. All i ask is that my sled with 8000 miles not get used so that when im there its not broken. Hey and i bought a backup sled. I would like anyone to tell me I am being the unreasonable one.
FCR61
Jan 15 2008, 01:53 PM
Sounds like you shouldn't be airing your "dirty laundry" on the internet and go settle it in the backyard...just my opinion.
Oh and I let competent friends ride my sled...but only when I am around..like swapping sleds on the trail..when I am not around that priveledge is only available to my immediate family.
Amouta
Jan 16 2008, 11:09 AM
the last time I let someone ride my sled it was my idiot of a brother who flipped it, now I need a new windshield. He's lucky he didn't break much else. Any way I'd just suggest that you know who's taking care of your sled and that they're going to be caring for it better than you would. At least if it's an expensive sled and something you don't want to get beat up . . . like my brother.
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