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briang
i have a 99 tcat and i would like to run some back 8" idlers on the rear. whos setup is the best? and what would i need to order to make it happen? thanks fellas
arcticthunder
You need an offset axle kit - I used high performance engineering's - worked great - bought black idlers from the ac dealer - easy bolt in
AmphibXP
QUOTE(arcticthunder @ Nov 7 2007, 09:05 PM) *
You need an offset axle kit - I used high performance engineering's - worked great - bought black idlers from the ac dealer - easy bolt in


did you see an difference in performance? it seems that everyone says you only gain performance on the 128" and 136" tracks.... have been wanting to try it for a while now...
briang
thanks that looks great and like you said easy bolt in. two 8" wheels on the outside and two 6-3/8 on the inside if i read it right. i'll get some pics when i get it finished. anyone have any 121" pics with 8" idlers?
87gtNOS
pic....
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Dialed
They also have 2 small wheels for the front where the bend is on the rails. They go on the outer rails. They work great with the 8" wheels in the back. What they do is take the track away from the sliders which greatly reduce friction. Lowering the skid with these wheels really freeroles the sled. Quite a difference. Note that the two small wheels for the front should not be used for trail riding, not very durable. Add a speed track, and you can push the sled with 2 fingers.
87gtNOS
QUOTE(Dialed @ Nov 8 2007, 09:35 AM) *
They also have 2 small wheels for the front where the bend is on the rails. They go on the outer rails. They work great with the 8" wheels in the back. What they do is take the track away from the sliders which greatly reduce friction. Lowering the skid with these wheels really freeroles the sled. Quite a difference. Note that the two small wheels for the front should not be used for trail riding, not very durable. Add a speed track, and you can push the sled with 2 fingers.



Dialed, I would have to say the front wheels are a great idea for in your driveway, otherwise they don't do much.
Under both acceleration and at speed, your track is shooting straight down to the ground off the drivers!!!! No matter how tight it is!!
thunder101
Good point!!
Dialed
[quote name='87gtNOS' date='Nov 8 2007, 09:39 AM' post='3204317']
Dialed, I would have to say the front wheels are a great idea for in your driveway, otherwise they don't do much.
Under both acceleration and at speed, your track is shooting straight down to the ground off the drivers!!!! No matter how tight it is!

In my opinion I believe they do, they touch at some point, remember I said reduce friction. These wheels roll easier!whether on glare ice, or asphalt or else we would'nt need idler wheels of any kind up there. I don't know if you remember the problem with the '92 wildcat,and some other sleds where wheel kits were needed because of the severe bend in the rails. The sliders would burn at pretty well any speed. So if the Wildcat had no wheels what would of happened. OH GOD! It would'nt even move in the driveway.
thebigtman
There was another guy on here that used billet wheels for the rear. It looked really good. I'll shoot the link to you if I can find his original thread.
thunder101
The billet wheels from Cat are wicked drool.gif !! It only makes sence the wheels are going to help but on my M/C TCat the approach angle is not like a on a 92 WildCat nor should yours??The decision is the wieght worth the benifit??I know in the past I've rode with Polaris' that have there wheels at the front of the skid dangling away or just busted off.
87gtNOS
I would also make sure those Billet Wheels from Cat have the correct bearing for use on your Tcat and your offset axle. They may only accept a smaller bearing for the newer sleds.
Tricked-Toys
QUOTE(87gtNOS @ Nov 8 2007, 06:45 PM) *
I would also make sure those Billet Wheels from Cat have the correct bearing for use on your Tcat and your offset axle. They may only accept a smaller bearing for the newer sleds.


We make 8 inch billet's with either the 6205 or 6004 bearing....so we got you covered either way....
87gtNOS
QUOTE(Tricked-Toys @ Nov 8 2007, 07:20 PM) *
We make 8 inch billet's with either the 6205 or 6004 bearing....so we got you covered either way....



Awesome!! I was only thinking of the Cat ones....
shadow44
If you're getting billet wheels...look a tricked toys stuff...the tribal wheel is the hottest wheel out...I just put them on my F7...killer.
Hooper 1000
Make sure you use a spoked wheel so you can get a wrench in there to tighten to offset axle bolts that secure it to the rails. buttrock.gif
Sled Solutions
QUOTE(briang @ Nov 7 2007, 11:54 AM) *
i have a 99 tcat and i would like to run some back 8" idlers on the rear. whos setup is the best? and what would i need to order to make it happen? thanks fellas

Here is a picture of one with 8".

thunder101
How much for most offset axle kits ,w or w/out wheels?
DrWho17
QUOTE(thunder101 @ Nov 9 2007, 07:22 PM) *
How much for most offset axle kits ,w or w/out wheels?

HPE used to have some of the PEM's left. I'm still debating whether I want to do this for my 01 ZRT 600. I've heard they don't do much on the short track.
bigcubes427
the benifits from large wheels, is you gain less rolling resistance. You take the shape arch out of the track in the back. Its easier to turn w/ bigger wheels than with the smaller wheel.
Hooper 1000
QUOTE(bigcubes427 @ Nov 10 2007, 12:22 PM) *
the benefits from large wheels, is you gain less rolling resistance. You take the shape arch out of the track in the back. Its easier to turn w/ bigger wheels than with the smaller wheel.

Most importantly, they look kool. ylsuper.gif
kingkat4
87gtnos

Who's Kat id this?

Note the rear idlers.

136 mph in 1/4 mile
kingkat4
QUOTE(kingkat4 @ Nov 14 2007, 06:33 PM) *
87gtnos

Who's Kat id this?

Note the rear idlers.

136 mph in 1/4 mile


2nd try to upload picture??
87gtNOS
QUOTE(kingkat4 @ Nov 14 2007, 06:33 PM) *
87gtnos

Who's Kat id this?

Note the rear idlers.

136 mph in 1/4 mile



Not sure!!!
Hooper 1000
For those looking for 8" wheels for your set up you might consider these composite wheels from Fabcraft. Are lighter than aluminum, no corrosion and are super strong.
Fabcraft composite wheels.
Hooper 1000
QUOTE(Hooper 1000 @ Dec 25 2007, 03:56 PM) *
For those looking for 8" wheels for your set up you might consider these composite wheels from Fabcraft. Are lighter than aluminum, no corrosion and are super strong.
Fabcraft composite wheels.


Photo of my offset axle and 8" wheels.
zrt toliet
QUOTE(Hooper 1000 @ Dec 28 2007, 09:43 AM) *
Photo of my offset axle and 8" wheels.

im thinking of doing this also do I re use my 2 inside wheels on the new off set axle, and if so are the bering the same
Auggie
I don't see a problem using "Tip Wheels" for trail riding. I had a set on my ZR 800 and transferd them to my ZRT 800. They have around 5000 miles on them and no problems ??

Auggie
Invasion1
Does anyone make the aluminum idlers (besides AC) with the rubber edges for those of us with lots of studs?

mtwalet
Like tricked-toys said..they got you covered for all..
Invasion1
QUOTE(mtwalet @ Dec 30 2007, 02:29 AM) *
Like tricked-toys said..they got you covered for all..


I wish!

Been checking there site for a long time now and i don't see any rubber edged or the like idlers avaliable yet from them....

I found some from hiperf.com but i have to admit Tricked Toys has the best looking ones out so far design wise but im looking to get some sooner than later so im about to breakdown and buy with a week.




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