FreezOrBurn
Feb 5 2004, 08:57 AM
I've got 144 studs and I expect a lot of hookup but the skis lift all the Time.
I adjusted the rear blocks to limit the suspention an I watched the vidio. I don't want to Paly with the strap just yet is there anything else?
I guess I just don't know how to set the sled up. Can someone assist?
Has anyone with and x2 tried 8" carbids? Is the stearing to tough?
PolarisNut
Feb 5 2004, 11:01 AM
Try moving the RRSS to the front hole and setting them with the dot forward.
stangmata50l
Feb 5 2004, 12:10 PM
Re-setting your limiter strap isn't that tought of a job at all. You might want to give it a whirl.
Otherwise take you front springs down a bit. See if that + what Polaris nut said helps.
Later
mtrsprt
Feb 5 2004, 04:41 PM
I think your handlebars need to be higher. :lol2:
rs27
Feb 5 2004, 05:08 PM
The pro-x sleds 03,04,andpro-x2 are set up for snocross style riding. jamming thru rough stuff and slapping into big bowl turns with deep sugar pwder. They transfer reel good even with the rear block on "high" . Turn up ski spring preload a few turns and reduce preload on front track shock a few turns this helps some. I've got my 03 pro-x 6 railing high speed turns on groomed trails pretty good.
ProX440
Feb 5 2004, 05:54 PM
My 03 Pro-X 6 pushed like a dump truck. I tried about everything there was to try. Finally I got sick of it and just tightend the front limiter strap a hole. After that she handle's like she is on rails
Wood
Feb 5 2004, 06:30 PM
Hey ProX440, did you lose much transfer when you pulled the limiter up. I like my skis light but it's too much right now.
JimmyV
Feb 6 2004, 02:39 PM
With 144 studs, I would reccomend 8 or 10 inch carbides. 4 and 6 inch are generally for non studded or 96 studs.
Pro-X 600
Feb 6 2004, 03:03 PM
i think ive got the same trouble w/ my sled. O3 racer w/600 and the 1 5/8 track w/96 megabites. Unfortnatly havent been able to get much trail time on it, as we got great snow then it rained :banghead: Front end seems to like to slide, howeer i dont want to give up weight transfer if i can avoid it, or mess w/the limiter strap as the suspension is stiff enough as it is...im thinking fussing w/the springs on the skis???
ProX440
Feb 6 2004, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(Pro-X 600 @ Feb 6 2004, 04:03 PM)
i think ive got the same trouble w/ my sled. O3 racer w/600 and the 1 5/8 track w/96 megabites. Unfortnatly havent been able to get much trail time on it, as we got great snow then it rained :banghead: Front end seems to like to slide, howeer i dont want to give up weight transfer if i can avoid it, or mess w/the limiter strap as the suspension is stiff enough as it is...im thinking fussing w/the springs on the skis???

That won't affect it when its under power and the weight is transfered. To get it to turn you will still have to back off. I made mine handle like rails by tightening the front limiter straps up a hole. It doesn't do the wheelies like it used to though but turns awesome.
S pump
Feb 6 2004, 04:29 PM
I've had tremendous results on my 03 x 800 by going to 8 inch carbides and backing off on the front/rear shock 1/4 inch at a time till it carves to my liking. Cinching up your limiter strap removes the travel that makes this sled so much fun to bash through the bumps. I'm still playing but I think for the ski lift problem is a result of most of the weight riding on that front shock once the skid is coupled under acceleration. The shock adjustment is also something you can play with during a ride unlike the strap. Another fringe benefit is a slightly improved top end by reducing the angle the track must bend over the front shock.
actionfigurejoe
Feb 6 2004, 04:41 PM
Install the 110# straight rate ski springs found on the "02 ProX600 to minimize ski lift.
terez
Feb 9 2004, 09:52 AM
My 03 PROX 700 pushes terribly also.
I have tried LOTS of things.
Shorten your limiter strap for sure, there is only one hole shorter than stock, use it. It will also give you a little better top end with the reduced approach angle. It does tame down the wheelies but gives a fighting chance at turning!
I am studded with the oem 1 in track and found you need at least 8 in carbides and loosen the front shock preload, it will roll in the corners a bit more but will turn better.
Also loosen the preload on the front skid shock all the way ( keep enough tension that the spring doesn't fall off the collar when fully open). This is also a big improvement. The oem spring here is pretty stiff (160lb) and i will also be replacing it with a 140 or even a 120 shortly.
Run your rear skid springs as stiff as you can stand as the rear ride height dramatically affects front pushing, more than any other sled I have ridden.
I have run the rear scissor blocks in every conceivable position....I currently have them in the forward hole with the blocks at the medium thickness forward.
The problem with this sled is it is so stiff and has so much transfer that when you set it up for a decent ride it pushes like a shopping cart!!
I have run Ski Doo Precision skis, Polaris skis and C&A Pro's on this sled.
The C&A Pros work well, lots of steering effort though.
The oem skis work ok with lots of carbide if you shorten the limiter and sag the front springs out and run with tight rear coupling and stiff rear torsion settings.
I think the problem with the sled is the wimpy front sway bar. The 1/2 in sway bar is useless and suitable for powder riding maybe! I will be using a 5/8 sway bar with softer front springs/valving which I think will make a great trail setup.
FreezOrBurn
Feb 12 2004, 05:26 PM
Thanks Guys I've compiled a list from your suggestions and will do this weekend! :div20:
jackdoetwo
Feb 13 2004, 02:44 PM
How much air can you get off that jump?
Looks cool anyways,
Later
Pro-X 600
Feb 14 2004, 09:21 PM
QUOTE(ProX440 @ Feb 6 2004, 04:33 PM)
That won't affect it when its under power and the weight is transfered. To get it to turn you will still have to back off. I made mine handle like rails by tightening the front limiter straps up a hole. It doesn't do the wheelies like it used to though but turns awesome.
so if i turn the springs what will it effect???
Pro-X 600
Feb 15 2004, 09:33 PM
Whats the verdict freezer?? Whats seemed to be your best setup...?
FreezOrBurn
Feb 18 2004, 09:41 AM
QUOTE(Pro-X 600 @ Feb 15 2004, 10:33 PM)
Whats the verdict freezer?? Whats seemed to be your best setup...?
You Guy are the Best! I went to the garage with my trusty list from you folks and a little tweek made a big differance!
1) $50. New 6 inch (Rotine spellling?) Carbides.
2) Jacked Up the Front and gave 6 full turns on ski springs. (Wow they were loose)
3) Rotated Track Blocks to high (Did not move the block into foward hole.)
4) Letting off the gas in the turn helps
I then went for a ride. That little bit did the trick!!! and then some!
My 600 Pro x2 is turning like a champ! :banana:
PS I do not suggest keeping the original carbides from Polaris, They are junk and wear out very fast. in my opinon.
Pro-X 600
Feb 18 2004, 10:24 AM
QUOTE(FreezOrBurn @ Feb 18 2004, 10:41 AM)
You Guy are the Best! I went to the garage with my trusty list from you folks and a little tweek made a big differance!
1) $50. New 6 inch (Rotine spellling?) Carbides.
2) Jacked Up the Front and gave 6 full turns on ski springs. (Wow they were loose)
3) Rotated Track Blocks to high (Did not move the block into foward hole.)
4) Letting off the gas in the turn helps
I then went for a ride. That little bit did the trick!!! and then some!
My 600 Pro x2 is turning like a champ!
:banana:
PS I do not suggest keeping the original carbides from Polaris, They are junk and wear out very fast. in my opinon.
the 3 yrs i ran the stock skis on my 99 500, i always ran the roetin xpr-1 i think. it was 6" 60 degree, and they were the best carbide i have ever ran. They wore great, no matter what the conditions..i usually repalced them every season, but would put them on my dads xlt. Now that i got c&a;s i cant find them.
Anyways, in #2 where you say the springs were loose what did you mean?? easy to turn, or they were loose as in almost raatling..I think im going to increase my springs on the skis, and maybe play w/the limiter strap this afternoon...Good ot hear it all went good.. :div20:
FreezOrBurn
Feb 18 2004, 10:27 AM
I jacked up the front of the sled on the springs where rattleing.
Pro-X 600
Feb 18 2004, 10:52 AM
So you decreased the acutal length of the spring??? I thought it was the other way around, lengthing the spring amt, gave you more pressure, but just reading the manaual says the opposite...arrg
FreezOrBurn
Feb 18 2004, 10:55 AM
QUOTE(Pro-X 600 @ Feb 18 2004, 11:52 AM)
So you decreased the acutal length of the spring??? I thought it was the other way around, lengthing the spring amt, gave you more pressure, but just reading the manaual says the opposite...arrg
Yes I made it harder to push the front end down. Springs have more preload.
Pro-X 600
Feb 18 2004, 01:15 PM
i went and turn my springs right 1 turn(lengthen them), and i think it made a difference...seems more stable, bit less steering effort, and rides maybe a bit smoother.I dont really know.. I sure wish the manauls showed the same setup as the sled. Manual shows the shox shaft up up w/spring coiled at bottom, where as the sled has the shaft to the bottom, and spring coiled up top...im getting fed up w/this....and crappy weather
XCBobT
Feb 18 2004, 06:07 PM
new to the board, so bear with me.
I'm wondering if any of you guys have tried any of the different mount holes,at the rrss pivot? if so what changes did you feel in the ride. trail and drag
Pro-X 600
Feb 24 2004, 07:23 PM
Not to beat an old drum, just thought id post what i found out about my sled...I cant believe i didnt see this sooner...but standing in front of my sled, the right ski had a very noticebale tip in/down (negative camber i think its called), and the left one has a slight bow in. After doing some further investigating, found obvisouly alignment was out of whack, along w/tow...couldnt believe that i couldnt see this.... :frech32: adjusted upper left radius rod, to help get that side straight, i think might ahve to do the same w/right. With weight on it the sled looks flat, but in the air the right side still tips in some not nearly as much???

Handlebar were somewhat out of alignment to, and had a nasty slop to it. Found at the base of the post where the short arm runs over to the longer steering arm was loose...hit it w/impack a couple times, slop all but gone...On top of all this, i couldnt beleive i had bought 6" carbdie to run w/the 1 5/8 track and 96 studs...i must have been out of my mind...i remember having the 8's in my hand, but guess i putt them back, be swapping out the 6"next yr...Cant wait to try it out tomorrow, should be noticeably better...too bad sno is gonna last...
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.