Blk88GT
Oct 15 2007, 07:49 PM
I'm installing a rear fox clicker in my Edge chassis. Does the resevoir go on the top, or bottom of the shock body when installed in the skid? I can't seem to remember.
Thanks HCS!
my cats
Oct 15 2007, 08:30 PM
It goes on the bottom, the track balloons and wobbles in and out on the top part of the skid and it can rip it off if its placed on the top.
ultra680
Oct 16 2007, 01:38 AM
Yes on the bottom. The reservoir will get ripped off if mounted on top.
Too Slow
Oct 16 2007, 08:50 AM
Have a similar question on the front track shock....does it matter which way the shock is mounted..whether the valve body faces down toward the track or faces upward toward the tunnel ?
Blk88GT
Oct 16 2007, 08:44 PM
Thanks guys, I got the shock installed tonight.
timespentsearching
Oct 16 2007, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(Too Slow @ Oct 16 2007, 09:50 AM)

Have a similar question on the front track shock....does it matter which way the shock is mounted..whether the valve body faces down toward the track or faces upward toward the tunnel ?
yes is does make a differnece, you need the shaft side up and the body on the bottom. flipping it would product bad shocks reaction and the body may take damage from a flopping aroudn track
michahicks
Oct 17 2007, 04:56 AM
<<<flipping it would product bad shocks reaction>>>
Timespent, you're the expert, but my understanding was it didn't make a whole lot of difference which end is up? I can't see the track getting into the body any worse that it would the spring if installed normally. I think it's an interesting idea. Free way to gain a little unsprung weight? Was there something else you had in mind Too Slow?
timespentsearching
Oct 17 2007, 08:14 AM
QUOTE(michahicks @ Oct 17 2007, 05:56 AM)

<<<flipping it would product bad shocks reaction>>>
Timespent, you're the expert, but my understanding was it didn't make a whole lot of difference which end is up? I can't see the track getting into the body any worse that it would the spring if installed normally. I think it's an interesting idea. Free way to gain a little unsprung weight? Was there something else you had in mind Too Slow?
you change the point how the shocks compresses because instead on pushing the shaft into the body, now you are pushing the body into the shaft. it does not make a ton of difference but will affect it. also the same with the spring now pussing down from the body, and keep in mind your spring retainer is not at the bottom making it easier to fall off. aslo now that you shock cover is facing down(rubber cover that prevents snow from building up in spring and protects the shaft) you body, mostly the threads, have high chance of getting damages and could cause even possilbe body dents. i would just hihgly recommend on doing this. not to mention in all of this you would also be putting more pressure on the cap and wiper possilbe causing leaking or breakage do to the extra mass of the boddy pushing on it instead of the shaft.
jbshocks
Oct 17 2007, 11:25 AM
the shock could care less what position it is in. there is no difference in presure on the seals in any position. Force is force so the spring does not care either. the shock belongs body down on an edge and I personally would leave it that way. I have seen applications with the front skid shock inverted. and I believe they have all been emulsion shocks with the theory that oil at rest is thicker than gas and less likely to leak out. Clearly you would not use the cover if you inverted because it will either be to high up to protect anything or if you left it on the spring end it would act as a scoop.
If a person wants to flip it over I see no reason not to do it but as with any change where we are saying that we are smarter than the sled engineers make sure you have not created any interference points.
I think the 2nd original question actually related to the gas valve which usually makes little difference but I typically put it where it is most protected which in the case of front skid shock is point away from the ground.
timespentsearching
Oct 17 2007, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(jbshocks @ Oct 17 2007, 12:25 PM)

the shock could care less what position it is in. there is no difference in presure on the seals in any position. Force is force so the spring does not care either. the shock belongs body down on an edge and I personally would leave it that way. I have seen applications with the front skid shock inverted. and I believe they have all been emulsion shocks with the theory that oil at rest is thicker than gas and less likely to leak out. Clearly you would not use the cover if you inverted because it will either be to high up to protect anything or if you left it on the spring end it would act as a scoop.
If a person wants to flip it over I see no reason not to do it but as with any change where we are saying that we are smarter than the sled engineers make sure you have not created any interference points.
I think the 2nd original question actually related to the gas valve which usually makes little difference but I typically put it where it is most protected which in the case of front skid shock is point away from the ground.
you may be right that it would have no difference pressure wise but passed on theory of physics it would. in this case it would be so small you probably could not tell. id still go with the stock position as JB said. i have see and heard people changing the shock upside down for what you said before but as for the now almost all ski shocks are body up as the theory you stated yearlier would just reverse if you put body down.
Too Slow
Oct 17 2007, 04:08 PM
I'm sorry but i think you guys misunderstood me...i didn't mean to flip the shock so its upside/down in that manor...i'm still installing it the usual way but when looking at the gas valve location...just wanted to know if it matters if the valve faces up or the valve faces down closer to the track...thats all...i'm a simple guy trying to ask a simple question if it'd affect reliability in anyway when the skid goes through its travel...didn't mean to start a physics war over this.
timespentsearching
Oct 17 2007, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(Too Slow @ Oct 17 2007, 05:08 PM)

I'm sorry but i think you guys misunderstood me...i didn't mean to flip the shock so its upside/down in that manor...i'm still installing it the usual way but when looking at the gas valve location...just wanted to know if it matters if the valve faces up or the valve faces down closer to the track...thats all...i'm a simple guy trying to ask a simple question if it'd affect reliability in anyway when the skid goes through its travel...didn't mean to start a physics war over this.
no biggy, it doesnt really matter but id say put it up, have seen but seldomly happens a bolt brake in the suspensoin and the end of the shock get a little wear from the track but it bot a big deal just put it up to be safe
TATKAT187
Oct 31 2007, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(timespentsearching @ Oct 16 2007, 09:54 PM)

yes is does make a differnece, you need the shaft side up and the body on the bottom. flipping it would product bad shocks reaction and the body may take damage from a flopping aroudn track
IF PLACED UPSIDE DOWN YOU ARE LIKELY TO BEND THE SHAFT BECOUSE IT CHANGES PIVOT POINT
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