would a 98 xc 700 w/ 220 jugs, 136 track, when clutched properly, beat a f7?

all I can tell about the f7 is it has a can and a light weight hood, not sure if they clutched it or not..
and now that I think about it, I think its a saber cat not a f.. idk for sure haha.
thanks

no

sorry dude i dont know what engine you have in your XC but the liberty 700s were only crankin like 120ponies and a F7 is between 138 and 140 plus there lighter ... so you have your work cut out for you

You will not top end him so if you really want to beat him gear it low and get your sled to hook HARD and only race short races from a dead stop. dont get me wrong you really have your work cut out for you but if you really do your homework AND make him play your game I think you have a shot at scaring him, my 01 800 used to beat most of the f7s to 90 or so then they would usually walk by and I really dont think my non ev 800 was much , if any quicker than my 98 rmk. you need to use the 136 to your advantge as much as you can. How deep of track do you have?

the tracks a 136/1.75.

all i know is my 98 700 will take my uncles 02 edge 800 untell 60-70mph then he pulls on me, and my sled has almost the exact same top speed as my other uncles 02 edge 700 (we races on the yetna river here in AK which is pretty straight, his sled had 2-3 langths on me at the most after a good mile or so of WFO.)

but I'v never lined up agenst a F7, and i have a mesh hood for my 98 (never really used it, but its hella light.. i guess I could throw it on there for the drags..)

some time this winter I will line up with my friend and see, thats if we ever get some freakn snow...

The xc's, 700 R slow. I've run up against 3 diff. ones w/ my F-6 and have beat all 3. these were clutched and had wiper tracks. Would literally walk 'em

Around here a good setup 98 700 xc will run with any F7 all day long untill they get into the bumps.

If you had a 97 xc700 I would say that you would have a better chance, the 97s were much stronger then the newer 700s from polaris until the recent dragon. Just me I can stand Artic Cat but a good running f7 will be hard to be.

I agree with the guy that said you have to make him play your game. I don't think you have a snowball chance in hell unless you find an F7 not set up right, you race in deep snow (your track is gross for anything else), and you jump him everytime. Sorry, not going to happen. F7's set right will pull the decals off your sled... BAD

My 700 will run with F7's all day long...way ahead of them!

hahahahhaha maybe running nitrous it will... My 03 440 sno pro trail convert will run with 3 different clutched pro x 700's til like 70. My f7 is a waste of time to race them... they are soooooooo much slower... out of the hole and on top end...

what made the 97s strong was the 220 cylinders that he said he has, some 98s also had them so if he has the cylinders the only other difference was the timing my rmk had a little hotter cdi box some of the 97 xc may also have

There are quite a few f7s that run very strong but buy the time the f7s came out I didnt have my 98rmk anymore but I did run several sleds that raced my buds f7 and my rmk, gear low get er to hook and give it a shot what the hell do you have do loose he should beat you so if he does no big deal but if you do win YOU DA MAN. They are quick but their not blessed by god, if your only racing 660 feet or 500 feet which are standard organized drag race distances for sleds a big holeshot is very hard to overcome. My 700 rmk(cluthed) would kill my 01 xc 800(heelclicker clutched) in 660and my 01 would ocasionally squeak out a win against the 03 f7 with a d&d clutch kit

I dont get this, people on here always bashing the f7 saying its outdated and such, blah blah blah, but I think its the best sled ever built, yet everyone is saying boo, yet they always compare theirs to it the f7. Seems like they wished deep down they had one, but too afraid to admit it.

its cuz there arctic cat. who actually likes arctic cat..

i have an 03 xc700.make the mistake on the lake and get your ass handed too ya.thats all i got to say pussy cat.besides there is only 6 years difference in tech

ive seen an edge x 600 stock destroy modded f7's at the annual floodway gass drags! cha ching.

lol dont b jeluz duder. u could prolly beat my 700 if that makes u feel better

Put the VES cylinders on the '98 and get pipes to match. With the lighter weight chassis and lower ride height of the ol' x-tra 10, this will change the outcome.

I love it when people come on here with talking all kinds of try when they have a sled that my 3 year old brother could drive. An F7 will WALK over an XC 700, no matter what year. I raced one and i had my suspension set up for wheelies and i hauled a wheelie, let off and then hit it again, and still smoked him. and he is a very good snowmobile racer, has one many races, he was trying a buddy of ours sled out. They are nutless sleds, that were designed to cruise on trails, not to race anything.
so dont come on here with all ur BS about how an XC 700 will take an F7 or even stay with it. 140 hp vs 120 hp, no compatition.
Mine as well throw ur Liberty junk away, cause they are all junk.

Why do you think Polaris has been debating to stop making snowmobiles, or atleast to stop making performance ones?
That's because they are junk and cant compeat AT ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!

lol idiot^ get over your shitty sled, im gonna see if i can get my old phone to work and post some vids of that 600 edge destroying those stupid way to common f7s,

You Arctic cat guys kill me, you think nothing can beat the mighty F7. I beat a F7 EFI (timing key & clutch kit)with my buddys 98 XC 700 (twin HTG pipes and clutch kit) on the grass twice in 500 ft back in 04. The non valved 700 in the wedge chassis RUN!!!! The wedge chassis was way more efficent then edges. Its all about the tuner !!! You should of seen the face of the AC guy when White lightning handed him his ASS twice !!

I love my 97 xc 700 It fn rocks, heres how ta do it. take a trip out out to grand island and have the boys hook your twin up! my lill twin will tailflap any f7 to m1000 mooha ha ha ha haaaaa!

Yup....
And my 04 700 will be right there beside you....
F7's yup their fast....But with some tuning the XC's can and do run with them....atleast mine does....HAHA

how nice white lightning lol anyways line the up and give results

Hey dude I got one of those slow fusion-900s I'll hook on your f6 and still beat any f7 and mabey an f1000 if you can find one

Dude, stock 600. Bone stock.
HEL-LO, anybody indare????????

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I have a 98 XC 700 My buddy has an 02 F7 Each sled has its strength and weaknesses Haven ridden them both the same day over the same trail. The F7 has a better hole shot whole the XC 700 has the top end. The F7 is better on the bumps and has a more aggressive riding style. In the turns the F7 seems top heavy and the XC 700 sits lower and turns flatter. The tall stance of the F7 you will really feel the wind over 60 with the XC700 wind minimal even at 95.

Just my observations I love both sleds and enjoy riding mu buddys F7 But I am just as happy with my XC 700

No your XC will not beat any F7 that hasnt fallen off a truck or has at least 15k of hard miles on the odometer.

It will also not beat a maintained SRX, XCR800, Thundercat or Mach Z. Of these it doesnt matter the year. This is speaking in terms of top end btw. On the bottom however, (think 500 feet here) you have a shot. The 700 twin with the 220s did very well in its day and still does well on the short tracks even in stock trim. For those that have beat F7's on the big end, yes its possible but you probably have twin pipes, two years of clutching and gone thru several pistons before you did it. Commendable for a 10 year old sled but still alot of work. It probably would have been cheaper/easier to just buy the F7.

Anyways,

Btw, if you really want to kick this guys ass, run him in the twistys. Ill give the 7F credit where its due. Its a very fast sled. LOTS of them are and it wasnt just a freak thing if you had a quick one. They do not however handle very well imo. Too narrow of a track, too tall and too fast. Your xc will smoke it in the woods all things being equal. Within 2 miles of hard going, the guy will probably be wedged between two oak trees. You sure see alot of them wedged in trees on the crash threads.

[quote name='Zrxpilot' date='Feb 18 2008, 12:07 AM' post='3666794']
No your XC will not beat any F7 that hasnt fallen off a truck or has at least 15k of hard miles on the odometer.

I will have to agree!! I'm not an arctic cat lover but will have to say 120 hp vs 140 hp and the F7's are lighter power to weight ratio!!!
I will have to say my brother bought one of the earlier 98 xc 600 brand new from the box he was beating the xc 700's by 1 to 2 sled lenghts idk why but it was fast.
Then the following year he took apart the 600 and replaced the jugs with oem polaris 700 piston and jugs non ves. After that hold th f*@# on his sled dominates any xc 800 that I have seen including mine. he runs 101 mph in 800 ft my 02 xc 800 is 95 mph and my 01 xc 600 runs 90 mph in 800 ft soo even I have my work cut out and all of our sleds have clutch kits. Even my brother is surprised with how fast his sled is and my father bought a 99 xc 600 and that sled can't even compete with my brothers 98 xc stock.

^ There is always an exception to the rule. Some sleds just come out of the box fast and easy to tune and then theres others like my xcr8 that you have to really work at it to get something out of it.

i have owned a 700 xcsp, and the reason i bought the f7 is because i was getting my ass handed to me by every one i raced. the f7 isnt invincible by no means, but there is not a shot in hell the xc will beat it unless its got some heavy mods, or if the firecat has something seriously wrong with it. and to the guy who smokes f7's on his 600, give me break...

A stock f7 would wreck a polaris 600. hell a f6 would kick its ass. You talking out of your ass buddy

Slow down Grasshopper! one win does not mean a thing,

In Grass drags a bad whole shot can make a fast sled seem slow, aswell just because a sled is modded doesn't mean it
works any better then stock.

Cliff yeatman
Advanced Dyno

I ride a Yamaha SRX 600. I love my sled but I don't think that I can line up against just anybody. I believe The 03 F7 was the fastest year of the F7s (besides the occasional rocket out of the box) and I think there were a couple years they produced some ZR900s just as fast. I believe the SRX 700 can run with those sleds or at least make it a race. As for your XC 700 you'll never be able to run with them on top end, even without that huge track. However, if you were to find some deep snow you could use your track as an advantage, its wider, longer and has bigger lugs. But thats just my two cents.

I say we have a 700 grudge match on Houghton lake this winter! Everyone who is in say AYE!