QUOTE(sandbagger @ Aug 2 2007, 06:47 AM)

I travel for living so picking up the sled isn't that big of a deal to me.
ND what do you think is a fair price for a new 06 Xfire 700? I ask because resale prices on sleds are in the dumper if you haven't noticed and having to sell my 06 F7 cheap needs to offset by buying the Xfire cheap.
I'd also be curious what your take is on the bent tunnels that Cat is not standing behind and the 07 flamethrowers that people will be stuck with when resale for them is non-existant......not attcking you or anyone else here just summer conversation.

I understand were your coming from I just do some part time work for my dealer keeping up his computers and doing some books and have seen a lot of whats been going on over the last few years, 2 local dealers have quit and more to come shortly I'd guess. I do all my own service but when I need a part for my trip in 2 days its my local dealer I've done business with for years that pulls parts off a showroom sled to get me going. I've known him to send parts overnight from Cat direct out west to a guy or send parts with another group going out to get someone up and going. He does the same for all his customers yeah I may pay a couple hundred more for my sled but I'd rather do that then miss a trip just what I'm trying to say. I'm not standing up for Cat just local dealers I'm happy that now he took on the Polaris line also so i have a choice in manufacture

. On the other hand I'm the kind of person that buys vehicles from the small local dealership rather then going to a large one because when I need help or warranty they are a lot easier to deal with. On the other hand I couldn't find a decent bike dealer to work with anywhere close so I just went with the cheapest.
I know what your saying about poor values and companies not standing behind there product IMO only one company has delivered as promised the last few years Yamaha. Anyway i'd say in that 5500-6000 range from what I've seen. Were still trading in 1500mile 06M7s for 5000-5500 some will depend if its a snopro or not. The CF problem is entirely a shock valving problem. It doesn't show up on the Ms and the tunnels are the same its the shocks don't rebound quickly enough when submitted to many stutter bumps in a row every bump it rebounds a lil less tell its fully compressed then stuff starts to bend. Talked to an engineer at the show last spring and he sheepishly admitted thats the problem but cat won't admit openly. If you get one before I'd put a brace on I'd send the shocks off to be re valved. The ride will be better and you'll avoid the problem. As far as the flamethrower I don't have any experience just what i've read and sure hope cat gets its figured out for everyone. Problems for all the manufactures seem to be more common place then in years past and IMO all the more reason to have a good dealer that will go to bat for you.