I am looking at buying a 2002 ZR 500 cce. I was wondering what comes stock on that compared to the normal Zr 500.
I have heard that is has all of these, is this correct or does it have more.
Clicker shocks???
Larger lugs on track??
Handle bar risers?
Tether switch?

It also has the shock adjuster knob by the handler bars. Is this a big plus??

no clickers does have resivwar shocks on front
does have handlebar riser
does have adjuster nob by handle bars
has 1 1/4 predator track awesome track by the way
does not have a tether but you could add one easily

I think you would be looking at a 2002 zr cce 600 I dont know that they had it in 500
I thought it was 600 and 800 but I may be wrong
overal a awesome chassis I have one with a mod in it
well gl on your search

I had an early release 500 cross country.It had clicker shocks and an 1-1/4 track.Don't remember it having the shock knob by the bars though.

IMHO................run away from a valved 500 as fast as you can. There seems to be no permanent fix for preventing contact between exh valves and the pistons which results in huge engine damage. Opting for either a 600 or 800 would be the better choice.

CCE version comes with
-reservoir shocks on the skis
-Dial adjust on the front skid shock
-reservoir shock on the rear with clicker
-different skid set up (arm positioning / shock positioning)
-1.25 lug track
-claimed heavier springs but they are still too light
-cool cce decals
-polished tunnel
-grey painted front A arms
-natural alum skid frame

It is a 500. Zr sled head all the people i know havent had any problems with there zr 500s with power valves. Please Explain to me the huge engine damage and maybe some early signs, that it will happen.

does the adjuster knob by the handle bars adjust the front and rear shocks or just one or the other?

If the 500 is having problems with it's exhaust valves, then the 600 should also, since they are almost exactly the same motor. The 500 is a great little stump puller!

~Fast

zr sled head knows his stuff there was a 500 model with all that he listed and that is correct about valves if you do a search theres tons of horror storys and pictures with the apv 500s

basically what happens is the power valves tolerance was too tight to the piston so with cable stretch over time the valve starts to make contact with the piston scoring hte piston and inevitably either seizing due to contact or snagging a ring both causing catastrophic failure

also stock ACT handle bar adjust is a absolute pile of shit unless you put FOX internals in your better to get a new front skid shock, thats what it adjusts by the way the front skid shock and is a adjustment of how much preassure is placed on the skis, however they blow often and have nothing but problems in stock form... we put a stock zr shock in and havnt had any problems since


and fast440 you have no idea what your talking about, the 600s were fine the only two to expreience problems were the 5s and 8s the 800s were not nearly as bad, acutally ive heard very little about the 8s but i do know most 800 owners opted for shims to give that extra bit of clearence

Yup...........the shims I came up with fixed the 800/900 problem.
The 500 issue would involve perhaps making both the valve and pin out of a tougher material or coming up with some sort of device to stop em from vibrating which seems to be what causes em to wear.
A down right crime that AC managed to screw up the best small bore engine on the market after adding valves to it. Even more unforgiveable is the fact they never came up with a fix...........should be a law to force em to buy each and every one of em back.
The 600 uses a completely different style round valve. No issues beyond needing more cleaning than some other designs.
Dial adjust is dead nuts reliable after swapping out the ACT separator piston for the earlier FOX sno pro version. I love being able to change ski pressure on the fly........would never own a sled without it now.

NOPE not the same at all in the PV area

The 500 use the same as the 800/900 which is flat guillotine but the 800/900 can be shims while the 500 can not

The 600 is a 2 piece round

the only problem with the 600 is ring snag as the miles pile up

Handle bar riser is the SAME Reg ZR and CC

BTW why are you 14yrs old here and 20yrs old on ACchat?

I went and Looked at a cross country yesterday, but the trade i was going to do didn't work out.

thanks for all the info.



I think it said i had to be 18 to join A Chat so I just pu tin 20 nice round number.

The 500's have the same round ones as the 440's from 2000-2001 and the 600. There weren't flat ones in the smaller engines until 2003 when the Firecat came out. I have had 440's and have many 500's in the area with 5000+ miles on them with no failures???? If you keep them clean and use a good quality oil like Klotz you won't have any trouble. That 500 engine of that era is a great motor with good bottom end power compared to the non-valved motors before it! I worked at my local dealership through college and have seen many of these come in and out, but non that ever hit the piston. There were a few that were worn in the pin area due to the pin not being hard enough, and most of these had aftermarket clutching in them causing a wierd vibration that is undetectable making the problem worse. The only ones that I know for sure had a real issue, were the 98-99 SnoPro 440's with the pressure actuated valves.

~Fast

Sorry but the 500 APV motor in the ZR/ZL did in fact have the flat valves for what ever reason and customer perception would suggest at least some of the motors had valves that hit the piston, seems to be far more frequent than the 600 or 440 twins. Of course I have had dealerships tell me Polaris never had an issue with their valve motors either. I ride with a couple Polaris folks and the low mileage sleds usually dont have an issue, with the higher mileage sleds I have seen folk lose a cylinder due to a valve hitting the piston. I guess that is why Polaris updated the valves on the 600/700 and 800 motors? Cat should have fixed their 500 APV motor as well but they wrote it off.

http://www.brownsleisureworld.com/frame.cg...arts/index.html

I guess we are all stupid then and the 500 did have the same valves as the 600

Do you even bother backing up your claims

GO LOOK UP THE LINK PROVIDED ABOVE or do a search on here or ACchat

OR BETTER YET TEAR YOUR 01-02 ZR 500 APV carb and see for yourself

It has FLAT style like the 800/900 NOT round like the 600

I wish my 6 had the flat valves. They would be alot easier to scrape.

scraping them is fuck all,dip them in engine shampoo and scrape em

I just hate the damn cable operated system

RAVES were 10 times easier to maintain/clean

The problems with the 500 pv engines were, the power vavles would gum up really quick and get stuck, and vibrate the valves sometimes letting them contact the piston, it's not a huge problem like its made out to be here by the internet cops. No fancy lazer cut spacers to fix it, all you need is a washer like spacer that has rounded edges to shim the valve up. Get the sled, it's great, the shocks aren't all that great and tend to wear out and break more then others. This engine used flat blade style pv's and can be shimmed up if needed, only need a few washers, preferably aluminum.