I spend a fair bit of time in and around Honey Harbor and Beausoleil Island/Georgian Bay National park in the summer. Boat access only and a really nice spot for those of us who can't afford a cottage in the area.
Shithole cottages are in the millions of dollars.

There are groups of people who tie upwards of a dozen BIG boats together and anchor in th middle of a very lage bay.
The are right in the centre of where boaters need to travel to get to the campsites on the island.
They have hissy fits as I fly by despite the fact it is they who are the fucktards.
Even the smallest wake from the smallest craft causes the boats to rock back and forth and collide with one and other.
If there is no one on deck it's like poking a hornets nest.
The fly out and get all upity, and irate.
It's like parking on the side of the road and getting mad when cars drive by and kick up rocks and dust.
At least the sail boaters are smart enough not to tie themselves together.
Week after week the meatheads don't learn.
Maybe I need a bigger boat that can make a tsunami like wave?

tell them to eff off............the no wake zone only extends 30 m or 100 feet from shore or as marked.........

The problem with boats is that any idiot can own one and a license costs 35 dollars to get..... I dont trust any boater but me and see the sensless idiocy on a consistent basis on all of our lakes.

Is it a large bay they're tied up in? If they're out in the middle of a large bay and really aren't that much of an obstruction, I don't see the problem. However, they have no right to piss and moan about wakes rocking their boats. That's the nature of boating.

For me, there's nothing that makes my blood boil more than people pulling tubers in calm water. If it's windy, tube to your heart's content, but if it's calm and there are people out there trying to ski, wakeboard, barefoot, etc, you are destroying the experience for them. Nothing chews up a lake faster than the erratic driving pattern of a boat pulling tubes... And of THESE people, the worst are the ones who start pulling tubes at 8 am and are still tubing at dusk.

Honorable ahole mention goes to anyone who parks at the end of a slalom course while someone is out there using it.

I can't agree more. we have to get up really early to hit the slalom course and our lake is rarely glass, but when it is we try to maximize it. the course is well hidden out of the main channel and in an area where there are no cottages, but the fishermen like to troll nearby... people have cut the lines on the course before which I really don't understand...

tubers should be shot lol

Ok, it's not that big. 400 yards side to side, so there isn't enough room to pass them so my wake dissipates.

find sombody with a wakeboard boat and have them go like 10-12 mph with the taps plate at 8 you will cause a 3ft wave maybe a lil bigger depending if they have ballast and they will get pissy about it lol i have done it to sombody who flew by me then just stoped and went 3mph....so i did it they got pissy it was funny i just did a turn around and swamped them

Tubers- dont get me started. Ever try to make a second pass on marked slalom course to have a boat going down the middle with the driver looking back on 100' rope pulling a tuber?


Vooodooo,

Those big @$$ boaters that tie off the island are waiting till after Parks staff leave so they can go to shore and use services for free and harass the paying boat/campers. I know this first hand.

Tubers really piss me off there is now a flare gun. I will give them fair warning but when I'm long lining and your pulling a fucking tube I say that they are the ass holes and need to leave and or stop.

on our lake (intermediate lake in central lake mi) theres no wake times so we ski at dawn and dusk when the water is a mirror, we jet ski and tube during the day with the rest of the lake, you guys must be on real small lakes

Decent sized lake and lots of room for both, seems that skiing or footing attracts tubers to follow. My theory is less experienced boaters/cottagers are tubers and don't understand safety or respect for others.

Well, Mondays rant is over and I can get on with engineering for 500kms of waterway from Lake Ontario to Georgian Bay. Thinking sun now but snow is on the way.

Thinksno

Not really. About 5 miles long. We don't have no wake hours either but we have started seeing more and more people pulling tubers later and later into the day. It used to be after dinner the slalom and barefoot junkies could have their way. Not anymore. Too many fucktards out there with 50k dollar tubing boats these days. There's one guy who bought a brand new SN 206 last year. I haven't seen it pull anything except a large inflatable. Travesty!

BTW, whose bombs are those in your siggy. Holy wah!

So lets see, the big boats are legally anchored in a bay. You go "flying by" and create a wake smacking their boats together and they are the idiots and assholes? Read the shipping act. 10 mph speed limit applies to other vessels as well. 100 foot rule. Shore or "other vessels". Period. You are legally responcible for any damage your wake creates.

LOL, If my little girl wants to ride in her tube, then she will. I don't care what anyone else wants to do. Buy your own private lake if you want to whine about other boat traffic. Where I live you cannot pull a tube, skier, wakeboard until 1 hour after sunrise and must stop 1 hour before sunset. We also ski and wakeboard, my summer is short and I will not spend it worrying about what freds son across the bay wants to do. I would however never run the boat near a slalom course as that is being disrespectful to those that set it up. My 7 year old much prefers to tube without the chop.

LOL.... I hate tubers as well!

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Don't tar all of us that way. I respect EVERYONES space, morning, noon and night. Flare gun? I every see a fisherman or whatever holding a flare gun towards me when I'm respecting theres and others space, you'll see a 60+ MPH ghost ride right into your boat.

Ya know, the flare gun comment is about right for a 16 year old kid, well maybe not, my son is 18 and he would NEVER say something as stupid as that at 18 let alone 16. You ride a snowmobile, are you always "perfect" where and how you ride? How about we gather up some folks that neighbor the trails you ride and they just sit there and launch shit at you since you are so perfect.... Fair enough?

LMFAO! So now skiers and footers own the lakes and US that do all of them including tube several hours a day, "Windy or Calm" should just stay inside and let you do your thing..... Way to freekin funny, good luck with that. Please, don't tell me you guy's really believe what you typed.....

Your right, these are rules even the newest of boaters should no.
Everyone has their way to have fun, we'd all like our own personal private lake all to ourselves and our kind but that's not how it works.
The lake I live on has all kinds of boatersand we have to get along. Besides its all for fun right.
BTW your wake could cost you real money.

jackass, you would only get one shot, soo make it good

great minds think alike

flare gun - WTF? Talk about retarded people and asshole boaters.....

Yeah, HCS is full of assholes, sledders and boaters, name the season.

Experienced moron retard to a new level Saturday. Take a fleet of very fast large offshore boats heading down the lake at 120mph. Take a fleet of PWC,s that want a closer look. Head said fleet of lake lice directly into the path of the poker run fleet and stop, scattered around a 1/4 square mile of water and watch the pandemonium unfold. The worst part was many of those flee riding idiots had small children on the back.
"hey guys, lets ride out to see the big poker run boats and then we can just park right in their path at the last second so we can see em real close up"

Darwin award candidates for certain.

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This is how people get killed. Common sense seems to be very uncommon these days.

yep

first off it was joke, hence the lol at the end... second, you don't know how many times I've had tubers peel through the slalom course when I'm getting ready to rip through, or cross the path of a boat with skier in tow. Its dangerous, reckless and illegal! there seems to be a lack of common sense and respect with many tubers and seadooers out there

learn a watersport and you would understand...

tubing is for wally's, live with it.

1st) Apparently you don't back read, pretty standard around here.

2nd) Yes, it is illegal, dangerous and shows disrespect. How do I know that? I UNDERSTAND WATER SPORTS

3rd) I'd be willing to bet you don't just stay within the "slalom course" all the time when you ski, that would be pretty boring. And I'm SURE you or the driver is always "dead-nuts on" as far as right away and distance from other boats, docks, etc.... Expand your horizons young man, there's more to water sports than 1 ski.

4th) You're assumption that tubing is for "wallys" is hysterical. But then again, this is coming from _____ so I understand....

5th) Suggestion: instead of getting pissed off and talking out your ____ here, do something about it when it happens. Contact the DNR or local police, I'm sure they would be more then happy to sit there and ticket the idiots when deemed necessary, they would deserve it.

Enjoy your single water sport, I'm going to enjoy all 3 of mine.

Your friend,

John

and on it goes...

not like I've never tubed before or taken a tuber, it was a joke in the first place and you get all defensive. tubing IS for wally's and anyone who rides the water knows that, but the kids like it...

I've trained with some of the best in the world including the current pan am games womens gold medal winner... also coached more people than I can count in every discipline of water sports, and tubing wasn't one of them... that includes trick, jump, wakeboard, kneeboard, barefoot and even hydrofoil.

enjoy wallying around the lake..

And on, and on....

LOL......ok.

I guess, your right. Water skiing is the best, you win. Where do you ski

No more arguing from me, I do my deal and you do yours. As I said, I respect others space when were skiing, tubing or whatever. I expect you would do the same.

I respect everyone on the water and have had my own boat since I was 7, I learned properly the first time and started skiing at about the same age. Like I said, its not like I've never been on a tube or towed them, but I try to avoid it as much as possible. I have a tube and will let anyone use it if they want to blow it up.. by hand! haha

I call tubers wally's because most of the ones I see are just that, no offence though. and it pisses me off when I see tubers on calm water in the morning or evening. I don't usually get to ski during the day because there are people using the lake, chopping it up - fine. tubers don't need calm water and I think people should teach their kids a sport that can help them through their lives instead of an activity . I have no problem taking kids tubing, but 4 or 5 times a day is too much, especially when the water is calm and finally the skiers can get out.

I use the lake 15-30min a day for my activity and don't say squat to the tubers, pwc's, fisherman, etc. i just like to use the 15 minutes of calm water at the start and end of the day, and if god is being nice one day and its calm at the slalom course at noon i would ask the other boaters to please respect that area for 10 minutes and let me use the 2000 feet of lake I need (my lake is over 8 miles long).

Its the lack of commen sense and respect and I find the weekend warrior tubers and pwc riders are by far the worst. and when towing a tube the idea is to make as much wake and drive as erratically as possible. this is a recipe for disaster IMO.

I'm normally on Kennisis Lake in Ontario, where I sled from mostly too - paradise:

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LOL!

I'm 42, your 27, I have more experience (like you, I have been boating since a very young age and was taught rules and driving by my grandfather using a 1961 dorsette with a 50 Merc

I agree with what you posted, sorry I went on a rant like that but the lake we are on is quite different then the huge lake you are on.

Our's is roughly 250 acres, clean, clear and generally fairly calm, 6" little rollers maybe like these.... (looks ideal eh?)

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Most people on our lake tube, ski, shortly after dinner time or fish. 250 acres is NOT a big body of water so I sized my boat for our lake (almost 18') and powered it to pull any type of water sport item.

Recently 2 guys living on the lake purchased Master craft X2's. They fill the ballasts full and pull their little one's on wake boards at 10 MPH. Seeing how you are into the skiing big time, can you imagine the rollers we get smashing into our dock ALL DAY LONG. They have ripped my boat loose from the dock 5 times this season. Has it soured me a bit.....yes.

The way our lake is set up, there is a larger "bowl" area where most (accept these 2 guys) pull skiers. They prefer to go through very narrow channels or passages at very low speed and damage the shit out of the shorelines and other things with massive waves.

I live with it and don't say a thing. Also, I am not a weekend warrior. My grandparent built the lake home I own today, my wife and I bought it in 1991 from their estate. I have been on this body of water since age 3, thats 39 years.

If I see a ski boat heading my direction (narrow area) and I'm pulling a tube, I'll stop and let him go through, much easier for me to get going from a stop.

To me the guys that bought 22' wake boats for a lake our size (and how they do it) are stirring the pot, they have not made many friends as they are new to the area and have a "I own the lake" attitude.

Guess we can put this to rest and I apologize for some of my words. But as stated before, I have always and will always respect others space regardless of time.

John

that looks amazing. i wish I could have both worlds, big lake out front, little lake out back. I can dream!!! I love being on a bigger lake for boating and friends, but the skiing is very difficult.


I hear you with the wakeboard boats, they are a problem as well New people to boating and cottaging with big $$$ and no brains. buy the biggest boat you can find, fill the ballasts, and take the kids wakeboarding when they don't even know how to get up... I learned on a 15.5' 75hp... I have friends that learned to do back rolls on that boat... we have close to a dozen big wakeboard boats now & 4 or 5 direct drive inboards - 10 years ago I had 1 of 2 inboards on the lake..

we get people throwing huge wakes 20-30ft from our dook as well, just siteseeing..

we have 2 sets of 200+ lb anchors and it is not enough sometimes, but the storms we get can be ferocious and even a nice day can throw up some 3-4' waves... the mooring whips keep the boat away from the dock in nearly all situations, but we pull it out when we're not there

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Nice, very nice. How do you like the whips? I've thought about getting some. Same here, I'm gone, boat is on the trailer in the garage.

Don't ya love the sightseers, Holding a cocktail and waving as they pass then their wave washes you off the dock

worth every penny. can't say enough. 4 foot waves and the boat doesn't touch the dock at all. its a floating dock too so it moves with the water.

Could'nt have seen this post at a better time...out on my sailboat today,And some dickhead towing a tuber is closing in on me from the port side....now I have the rigrt of way by
A I am on his right side and
B I am in a sailboat....
needless to say we almost crash ......and he was close enough that I could see him see me.I spring my main too keep from hitting him and almost took out his tube rider.meanwhile he is flipping me off honking his horn and yelling TUBER!!!!WTF Then he swings around and starts bitching about sailboats and how they think they own the lake and how I should get a "real" boat........Welllll when I got back to the dock, And hopped Into the tri star, And tracked him down it was a different story.He didnt see me, he didnt yell tuber at me, he said my sailboat was "real" nice ect ect ect fuck him I wrote his bow number down infront of him and told him to expect a call from marine patrol...

Don't tar all of us that way. I respect EVERYONES space, morning, noon and night. Flare gun? I every see a fisherman or whatever holding a flare gun towards me when I'm respecting theres and others space, you'll see a 60+ MPH ghost ride right into your boat.

Ya know, the flare gun comment is about right for a 16 year old kid, well maybe not, my son is 18 and he would NEVER say something as stupid as that at 18 let alone 16. You ride a snowmobile, are you always "perfect" where and how you ride? How about we gather up some folks that neighbor the trails you ride and they just sit there and launch shit at you since you are so perfect.... Fair enough?[/quote]



Ya know,I guess you havent lost a hundred bucks worth of gear,more than once!My encounters have been with other fisherman,not tubers.It wouldnt have happened to me the several times it has if people observed safe passage,thats all around.I pull out the flaregun when they are definetly going to take out my gear(75' or less)1 Sorry but the flares work well,they are a signaling device!(to mark out my lines/boards,never point a gun at anyone they might shoot back)

If those boat are moored in a dredged channel then theres a problem, but if there is plenty of water around with good depth then your wrong. Im a captain and let your local authorities know about this and they will handle it.

you guys sure know how to complain

Also you must stay 100 feet from a boat at anchor! Waking a boat can cost you serious money for damages and if the Law gets involved you'll spend more money.

Most of the complainers are the same guys that bitch about the trails being too rough!
Haha suck it, up not everyday is going to be perfect, obey the laws and have fun!
Tubing and sking both rock!
Sailing, well I guess you born into liking that.

if there was 1000 boats on my lake. i doubt id see more then 10, including at the marina we launch at. you guys just need bigger lakes

You Canadians sure have your problems...

For 1 if your bitching about wakes buy yourself a shorestation and toss your boat up on that. Who leaves an inboard tied up to a dock?

If your bitching about tubers move off the lake. Tubing is part of lakes.

I own waterfront in Central Wisconsin and I've seen it all.