Guys don't shoot the messenger , I love my knew dragon !!!
Is anybody winning races with them , or would that just fall under the IQ ??
Anyhow I saw a picture of the 08 800 Skidoo , looks like a futuristic fusion , the seating position is just like our Dragons (people getting sick of driving on there knees ) heres the bad news , its supposable 416 pounds at a 160 hp holy crap !!!! I mean hopefully for the Polaris team it is so light that it falls apart after 500 miles otherwise Polaris is in trouble next year , Just info , I'm still blowing past skidoos on the trail and rooting for Polaris but they better have something better or as good to offer people because I don't think as good as my dragon is , it has made a big impression on the general snowmobile public for Polaris.
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QUOTE(X skid/ Dragon fan @ Mar 2 2007, 12:02 PM) 
Guys don't shoot the messenger , I love my knew dragon !!!
Is anybody winning races with them , or would that just fall under the IQ ??
Anyhow I saw a picture of the 08 800 Skidoo , looks like a futuristic fusion , the seating position is just like our Dragons (people getting sick of driving on there knees ) heres the bad news , its supposable 416 pounds at a 160 hp holy crap !!!! I mean hopefully for the Polaris team it is so light that it falls apart after 500 miles otherwise Polaris is in trouble next year , Just info , I'm still blowing past skidoos on the trail and rooting for Polaris but they better have something better or as good to offer people because I don't think as good as my dragon is , it has made a big impression on the general snowmobile public for Polaris.
Is anybody winning races with them , or would that just fall under the IQ ??
Anyhow I saw a picture of the 08 800 Skidoo , looks like a futuristic fusion , the seating position is just like our Dragons (people getting sick of driving on there knees ) heres the bad news , its supposable 416 pounds at a 160 hp holy crap !!!! I mean hopefully for the Polaris team it is so light that it falls apart after 500 miles otherwise Polaris is in trouble next year , Just info , I'm still blowing past skidoos on the trail and rooting for Polaris but they better have something better or as good to offer people because I don't think as good as my dragon is , it has made a big impression on the general snowmobile public for Polaris.
now it's 416 lbs and 160hp? It started out as 435lbs and 150hp. The 150hp part is already proven, but don't expect to see a chassis under 450 dry at the time of production. None the less, those are good numbers. I'd expect to see 150hp at minimum out of Polaris' new 8 hundo.
Wish i would of waited that thing is going to fly. Its really light also, and they are sweat looking.
QUOTE(BuddyP @ Mar 2 2007, 12:33 PM)
now it's 416 lbs and 160hp? It started out as 435lbs and 150hp. The 150hp part is already proven, but don't expect to see a chassis under 450 dry at the time of production. None the less, those are good numbers. I'd expect to see 150hp at minimum out of Polaris' new 8 hundo.
The 800 Dragon with 150+ HP would be great but if they don't put it in a 121 or 136, they won't be happy with the response!!!
Isn't this the polaris forum?
There was an 800R at a dealership in southern WI this week. Dry weight was 417 on the pre-production proto.
Another smack in the face for Polaris. KaChow!
I would like toknow how they dropped 50# out of a sled. Even if you used exotic metals, you just don't loose that much wt. I would assume it has no boggie wheels. I would of thought it used air shocks(no springs), but I see springs on it. So it must be thinner stampings, thinner/smaller hood/belly pan, lighter/smaller seat foam, ect. So will it hold up to abuse???
QUOTE(dave583 @ Mar 2 2007, 02:53 PM)
Another smack in the face for Polaris. KaChow!
If you are trying to get a rise out of the Polaris forum you are barking up the wrong tree. If you like Polaris soooo much (you have several posts in here) why don't you step up, be a man, and BUY ONE!!!!
I know, I know, you probably aren't used to that much power riding a doo but if you practice you might just be able to handle it!!
I love how all these other riders feel the need to come to the Polaris forums !
Also interesting how ACat and Skidoo now have Fusion knock-offs !
Also interesting how ACat and Skidoo now have Fusion knock-offs !
QUOTE(joshmad1 @ Mar 2 2007, 02:19 PM)
If you are trying to get a rise out of the Polaris forum you are barking up the wrong tree. If you like Polaris soooo much (you have several posts in here) why don't you step up, be a man, and BUY ONE!!!!
I know, I know, you probably aren't used to that much power riding a doo but if you practice you might just be able to handle it!!
I know, I know, you probably aren't used to that much power riding a doo but if you practice you might just be able to handle it!!
Not to worry. I don't think little wee man dave could afford a XP.
QUOTE(actionfigurejoe @ Mar 2 2007, 03:59 PM)
Not to worry. I don't think little wee man dave could afford a XP.
And even if he could, no worries. The XP is bound to fold in half after the first couple bumps due to the weight loss!
QUOTE(just-pinch-it @ Mar 2 2007, 03:17 PM)
I would like toknow how they dropped 50# out of a sled. Even if you used exotic metals, you just don't loose that much wt. I would assume it has no boggie wheels. I would of thought it used air shocks(no springs), but I see springs on it. So it must be thinner stampings, thinner/smaller hood/belly pan, lighter/smaller seat foam, ect. So will it hold up to abuse???
Sounds like a tunnel bender to me! Let's see how strong they are this time next year.
They made is so light you can carry it out of the bush yourself when the motor blows, or the chassis crumbles, great engineering when you think about it.
Are they assembled in Mexico yet? Like their ATV's are?
QUOTE(PolarisBum @ Mar 2 2007, 04:11 PM)
Are they assembled in Mexico yet? Like their ATV's are?
My shoes were assembled in mexico, i take offense to that.
QUOTE(Spiderman @ Mar 2 2007, 04:09 PM)
They made is so light you can carry it out of the bush yourself when the motor blows, or the chassis crumbles, great engineering when you think about it.
Maybe one of the options offered will be a shoulder strap to make carrying easier!
QUOTE(piped600 @ Mar 2 2007, 04:14 PM)
My shoes were assembled in mexico, i take offense to that.
Are they sandles then?
I think my Z71 Suburban was too. Nothing wrong with that but I figured it would be pretty funny to have canadian snowmobiles assembled two countries away in Mexico !
Personal opinion:
I think the REV XP project was started in 2003 after the REV came out.
At that time the light weight of the 2003 Firecat was all the rage. But, we all saw the changes from the original prototypes to the mass builds and then the 2004-2005s also gained some more weight. Ultimately lightweight at the expense of ANY reliablity is simply not worth it.
I think the project was conceived at that time. Ski-doos marketing has continued to focus on the weight issue.
However, fast forward 4 years and "Weight" is no longer the big issue it was in 2003. I think people have finally realized 30-40 lbs either way does not necessarily make a sled better.
Bottomline - I will NOT pay a premium $$ for weight savings. It is simply not that important to me.
I think the REV XP project was started in 2003 after the REV came out.
At that time the light weight of the 2003 Firecat was all the rage. But, we all saw the changes from the original prototypes to the mass builds and then the 2004-2005s also gained some more weight. Ultimately lightweight at the expense of ANY reliablity is simply not worth it.
I think the project was conceived at that time. Ski-doos marketing has continued to focus on the weight issue.
However, fast forward 4 years and "Weight" is no longer the big issue it was in 2003. I think people have finally realized 30-40 lbs either way does not necessarily make a sled better.
Bottomline - I will NOT pay a premium $$ for weight savings. It is simply not that important to me.
QUOTE(Red Rocket @ Mar 2 2007, 04:21 PM)
Personal opinion:
I think the REV XP project was started in 2003 after the REV came out.
At that time the light weight of the 2003 Firecat was all the rage. But, we all saw the changes from the original prototypes to the mass builds and then the 2004-2005s also gained some more weight. Ultimately lightweight at the expense of ANY reliablity is simply not worth it.
I think the project was conceived at that time. Ski-doos marketing has continued to focus on the weight issue.
However, fast forward 4 years and "Weight" is no longer the big issue it was in 2003. I think people have finally realized 30-40 lbs either way does not necessarily make a sled better.
Bottomline - I will NOT pay a premium $$ for weight savings. It is simply not that important to me.
I think the REV XP project was started in 2003 after the REV came out.
At that time the light weight of the 2003 Firecat was all the rage. But, we all saw the changes from the original prototypes to the mass builds and then the 2004-2005s also gained some more weight. Ultimately lightweight at the expense of ANY reliablity is simply not worth it.
I think the project was conceived at that time. Ski-doos marketing has continued to focus on the weight issue.
However, fast forward 4 years and "Weight" is no longer the big issue it was in 2003. I think people have finally realized 30-40 lbs either way does not necessarily make a sled better.
Bottomline - I will NOT pay a premium $$ for weight savings. It is simply not that important to me.
Yeah - what he said !
and Yamaha doesn't believe in weight savings so it can;'t be everything it's all cracked up to be.
QUOTE(PolarisBum @ Mar 2 2007, 04:16 PM)
Are they sandles then?
I think my Z71 Suburban was too. Nothing wrong with that but I figured it would be pretty funny to have canadian snowmobiles assembled two countries away in Mexico !
I think my Z71 Suburban was too. Nothing wrong with that but I figured it would be pretty funny to have canadian snowmobiles assembled two countries away in Mexico !
HAHA gotcha. I was just kidding. I have no idea where all my dress shoes are from, probably italy.
Light weight or not, they're still going to be the ugliest thing on the snow!!
You got that right,did not ski-doo undershoot the weight of the 600 by like 18# last year or 06,who cares ,never buy one anyway
Give credit where credit is do,no matter if they bend tunnel or blow motor's,ski-doo is the new 90's poo.
I have been I have been a poo hardcore for 15 years, but they are really starting to suck hind tit, no matter what any one say's its the truth they are no longer an inivater their a follower.Tom tiller is a 23million doller dumb fuck!!!!!!!! period.
I have been I have been a poo hardcore for 15 years, but they are really starting to suck hind tit, no matter what any one say's its the truth they are no longer an inivater their a follower.Tom tiller is a 23million doller dumb fuck!!!!!!!! period.
Quote Also interesting how ACat and Skidoo now have Fusion knock-offs ! what are you talkin about.
Some of you guys are whistlin' past the graveyard if you think this won't hurt Poo bad. It's like the dark days for Yammie when all they could talk about was the handwarmers. Sure, the new Doo's will fold in half, uh huh, you betcha. Don't bet the ranch on it. If Poo continues to slide, they could throw in the towel in a year or two. Sleds are only 10% of their business now.
I've owned a ton of Poos and one Rev, for those keeping track. Currently I own 3 Poos. The Rev was the best sled I've owned, though. I'm not brand loyal. It's fine to be loyal to Poo, but don't kid yourself about Doo. They are number one and climbing. Cat was there in the 70s, Yammie in the 80's, Poo in the 90's, Doo now. Let's just hope they all stick around in this declining and expensive market.
I've owned a ton of Poos and one Rev, for those keeping track. Currently I own 3 Poos. The Rev was the best sled I've owned, though. I'm not brand loyal. It's fine to be loyal to Poo, but don't kid yourself about Doo. They are number one and climbing. Cat was there in the 70s, Yammie in the 80's, Poo in the 90's, Doo now. Let's just hope they all stick around in this declining and expensive market.
Just how expensive is this new 800 REV?
Looks like another failed attempt of a copy of an F117 Stealth Fighter, this time by Ski-Doo!! 
QUOTE(Snowman9000 @ Mar 2 2007, 09:40 PM)
Some of you guys are whistlin' past the graveyard if you think this won't hurt Poo bad. It's like the dark days for Yammie when all they could talk about was the handwarmers. Sure, the new Doo's will fold in half, uh huh, you betcha. Don't bet the ranch on it. If Poo continues to slide, they could throw in the towel in a year or two. Sleds are only 10% of their business now.
I've owned a ton of Poos and one Rev, for those keeping track. Currently I own 3 Poos. The Rev was the best sled I've owned, though. I'm not brand loyal. It's fine to be loyal to Poo, but don't kid yourself about Doo. They are number one and climbing. Cat was there in the 70s, Yammie in the 80's, Poo in the 90's, Doo now. Let's just hope they all stick around in this declining and expensive market.
I've owned a ton of Poos and one Rev, for those keeping track. Currently I own 3 Poos. The Rev was the best sled I've owned, though. I'm not brand loyal. It's fine to be loyal to Poo, but don't kid yourself about Doo. They are number one and climbing. Cat was there in the 70s, Yammie in the 80's, Poo in the 90's, Doo now. Let's just hope they all stick around in this declining and expensive market.
People need to understand that when one manufacturer jumps ahead, the others will follow. There will always be a little of you steal this, we steal that, you buy this, we'll buy that, amongst the manufacturers. Doo you remember where POO got push button reverse or where Doo got the design for the SC rear suspension? Embrace the change, it'll only lead to better things.
BTW, the 03 REV came in at 434 lbs and the 07 REV came in at 479 lbs. The 08 is expected at 417 lbs. All "dry" weight.
Everyone needs to relax, Poo sleds will not be going away anytime soon. Just getting better.
PS. I'm planning on getting an 08 REV-XP 800r.
QUOTE(PolarisBum @ Mar 2 2007, 02:54 PM)
I love how all these other riders feel the need to come to the Polaris forums !
Also interesting how ACat and Skidoo now have Fusion knock-offs !
Also interesting how ACat and Skidoo now have Fusion knock-offs !
hands down. dumbest thing i have ever heard.
All doo doo lies and ways of making guys droul, but come out as production and will weigh 70 lbs.more.It's all marketing and I see it allready has some followers.Go for it,the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.
Go to the Doo forum 
800xp
800xp
I still find it interesting that all the Doo guys are over here in our forum yet I don't remember the last time I was in a Doo forum!!
They must be worried about something.......
They must be worried about something.......
QUOTE(joshmad1 @ Mar 3 2007, 07:34 AM)
I still find it interesting that all the Doo guys are over here in our forum yet I don't remember the last time I was in a Doo forum!!
They must be worried about something.......
They must be worried about something.......
we are kinda worried.... is polaris still gonna quit making sleds in a couple years?
Ski doo has been losing 20 pounds per year their sleds since the MXZ600 release in "97. At least that's what their ad campaigns have been saying. $13K for the new ski doo 800? We'll see.
QUOTE(t-bomb800 @ Mar 3 2007, 10:52 AM)
we are kinda worried.... is polaris still gonna quit making sleds in a couple years?
It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and prove it!!!!!
Thank you for proving my point!
Oh and look at the doo doo forum some guy has allready published weights and there way heaveir than published,oh geese I never would have guessed that doo doo would lie about there weights. 
Looked at the new 800 today at the snodeo, looked cool till I got close to it. The running boards felt like they would fold under pressure, the whole sled look cheap. It's too bad it was on my list of possible new sled for next year.
This just in ski doo full of shit weight full of fuel for this sled is 551LBS and the horse power is more like 147 so don't give up on polaris just yet
I was at the last oval race of the year at Beausejour, Mb. I saw the new Ski-Doo Rev, I made a comment amongst all of the Ski-Doo fans around me that the hood makes it look like a Fusion. Needless to say that I think that I pissed off quite a few Doo fans. Mission accomplished. Yeah. lol. It is a pretty different looking sled alright, right down to it's swiss cheese running boards to it's very functional windshield. lol.
rev xp x 800r is 435 lbs (might be 425 could be getting this mixed up with the adrenaline package) @150 - 152 hps and under 10 g's. 600ho sdi is 7 lbs lighter than the 800r and the adrenaline package is under 8500.
QUOTE(tbeaton @ Mar 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
rev xp x 800r is 435 lbs (might be 425 could be getting this mixed up with the adrenaline package) @150 - 152 hps and under 10 g's. 600ho sdi is 7 lbs lighter than the 800r and the adrenaline package is under 8500.
Go back to your cage.
The engine is 150hp. Not 150-152hp...Geez.. The Doo guys are already adding power to it.. Scared of the 155hp 800 coming from Polaris I guess.
And the 800R xp is NOT under $10K... keep dreaming.
QUOTE(tbeaton @ Mar 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
rev xp x 800r is 435 lbs (might be 425 could be getting this mixed up with the adrenaline package) @150 - 152 hps and under 10 g's. 600ho sdi is 7 lbs lighter than the 800r and the adrenaline package is under 8500.
I'll beleive all of this when I see it,not coming from this site or any on the net.Ski Doo is famous for fabricating there weights and HP,anything at 435 lbs. and 150 Hp will be cheaply made and fold in half.Just like Ski Doo weight on the mach z there scale was 43 lbs lighter than any of the magazines and ISR sactioned weights.The doo doo guys just need something to talk about,so let them ,but go to the doo doo forum,we don't care.
QUOTE(Brock @ Mar 5 2007, 06:04 PM)
I'll beleive all of this when I see it,not coming from this site or any on the net.Ski Doo is famous for fabricating there weights and HP,anything at 435 lbs. and 150 Hp will be cheaply made and fold in half.Just like Ski Doo weight on the mach z there scale was 43 lbs lighter than any of the magazines and ISR sactioned weights.The doo doo guys just need something to talk about,so let them ,but go to the doo doo forum,we don't care.
Well at least doo has something exciting to lie about !
QUOTE(800ho @ Mar 5 2007, 05:09 PM)
Well at least doo has something exciting to lie about !
WE DON'T CARE.
most people just dont get it. Polaris fucking rocks...plain and simple
QUOTE(800ho @ Mar 5 2007, 06:09 PM)
Well at least doo has something exciting to lie about !
What? What does BRP have that anyone would call exciting? An Ugly Xp Chassis?.. What? I can't think of anything.... Hmmm?? Nope. Still can't think of one thing BRP has that would excite anyone. Sorry.
I have started to see lots of pics of people riding those ugly cheese graters...they look like tiny sleds... no wonder they dropped so much weight. They shrunk the damn things.
Just like the superbikes 10 years ago.. 520lbs...now they weigh 400lbs..but you have to be 5'6" to ride them!!
If you need to go 100 mph please stay off the trails. Why do people need big sled? I could understand if your a big person but thats about it. I hope Polaris stays away from the big sleds. Go Polaris!
QUOTE(snow...where? @ Mar 5 2007, 07:44 PM)
What? What does BRP have that anyone would call exciting? An Ugly Xp Chassis?.. What? I can't think of anything.... Hmmm?? Nope. Still can't think of one thing BRP has that would excite anyone. Sorry.
I have started to see lots of pics of people riding those ugly cheese graters...they look like tiny sleds... no wonder they dropped so much weight. They shrunk the damn things.
Just like the superbikes 10 years ago.. 520lbs...now they weigh 400lbs..but you have to be 5'6" to ride them!!
Your right.They are junk.No one will want one.Long live the xc700!
I have started to see lots of pics of people riding those ugly cheese graters...they look like tiny sleds... no wonder they dropped so much weight. They shrunk the damn things.
Just like the superbikes 10 years ago.. 520lbs...now they weigh 400lbs..but you have to be 5'6" to ride them!!
QUOTE(800ho @ Mar 5 2007, 08:07 PM)
Your right.They are junk.No one will want one.Long live the xc700!
the Sled that Revolutionized Snowmobiling!!!
The Start of The Twin Revolution!!!:buttrock: Nobody could match a Polaris Triple. So Polaris Made A twin that no one could Touch. Left everyone Scrambling redesigning their motors. Doo is still trying to keep their twins from blowing up to this day. 10 years later!
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