With the death of the European French tourist snowmobiler, posted here 2-3 days ago, can someone tell me if there is any law or regulation (IN QUEBEC) in regards to the size of the engine you can rent?

Example:
Let's I am a Mexican guy (over 18) who never saw a snowmobile before and that I decide to embark on with a group of Switzerland folks to rent snowmobiles and go for a trip in the great Québec.

Would I be able to rent a Mach Z or a REV 600 or etc ??? Is this snowmobile renting stuff controlled/regulated ??? (eh, I am not talking about a 1 hour course)

hey,
I don't know the regulations, but i would think they (Rental Companies) would not rent a Mach or the like, just because the machine will earn them more money in renting it than recouping it from insurances and credit cards, but the AC 660 Turbo was pretty quick that my wife rented, it could have gotten her into trouble or worse.
I hope this makes sense.... I usually don't....
Gutz

no regulation that i know of all you need is any drivers liscence! scary isn't it !!!

Even a sled with a small motor can get you in trouble very quickly!

Snowmobiling is a lot like alcohol...everyone should know their limit...but very few people are smart enough to say "when"!

Maybe if they told all the tourists snowmobiling is like mountainclimbing one mistake and your probably FUCKING DEAD. and say it exactly like that in case their not listening, then tell them the amount of dead people in a year. I think this would help and the rental places really need to point these important things out. After all you can't put profit before their life ,or more importantly someone elses. Then the nervous ones would back out. all we need now is a way to get rid of the cowboys, any suggestions????

QUESTION; Are you going to drive your car at 100 mph on ice and snow just because the car can go at that speed. If the answere is yes, YOU WILL BE DEAD AND SOON. Also you would be better of on a HORSE.

I don't understand your point.???????

I think Bernard is saying we need to demonstrate some common sense...this is something you cannot legislate...no rules or laws can make people think before they act! Telling someone that if they make a mistake while snowmobiling could result in death or serious injury won't stop enough people to make any difference. It doesn't stop me, you or most of the idiots I see taking unnecessary risks out on the trails...we just tell ourselves "we're highly skilled, and in control" and most of the time that is bullshit! That's why there are so many serious accidents on the trails on both sides of the border!

Lets face it...going 70+ mph on a narrow trail covered in ice and snow, around corners that could have who knows what the hell in the trail waiting for us to hit, is not too smart! Slowing down and riding more responsibly on everyones part, is the only way to make the sport safer! If you want to fool yourself into beleiving speed is ok 'cause you're highly skilled...we will be mourning you too, someday! Hopefully not...ride to live & live to ride...safely!

So you actually think mentioning the the real dangers and statastics to the inexperienced snowmobilers will not make a difference???Sorry but I highly disagree, yes experienced riders do sometimes take risks and have fatal accidents, but it is well known that like in mototcycles most of the fatalities are caused by inexperienced careless people and this is driving insurance costs up, and is giving our sport a bad reputation among non snowmobilers.

Part of the attraction of snowmobiling to many is the potential danger, I agree that more should be done to regulate the renters but the fact is you can kill yourself just as quick on a 500 as a 1000 if you hit a tree or are drinking and riding which are the 2 biggest ways people are killed. I ride at the pace I'm comfortable at, the guys I regularly ride that way do as well. There are times when I'm happy at 50 and they want to ride 70 so they do and we meet up at the next intersection, no big deal. Too often inexperienced riders or those on rentals feel the need to keep up and ride beyond their abilities and thats when they get into trouble. If I ride with my wife I don't go faster than 35-40 because thats her comfort level and I don't want her to push it.

Good point :beerchug:

Careless people come in 2 flavors...inexperienced and experienced...to my knowledge the black eye for the sport of snowmobiling is coming from the serious accidents and fatalities from both flavors.

I don't care how long you've been riding...or how good you"think" you are...be careless and use bad judgement and your days are numbered...I just hope you don't take out someone who was following the laws and riding carefully with you when you go!

Careless....stupid....bad judgement or just plain bad luck...wrong place.... wrong time. Experienced- non experienced, Everyone can do things to increase or decrease danger. If you push it....which almost everybody does at some time or another you increase the risk. Anybody who has riden for any length of time has stories about friends or can remember near misses of their own. I've had a few myself including several last year. I accept / expect some shit to happen when I am horseing around on my own....but I never "EVER" drive in a manner on a trail that would put someone at risk that is following me or coming the other way. Can't tell you how many times last year that I nearly ran into ^$$@#$@#@'s coming from the other direction that don't give any consideration or thought to others on the trail. Ya some were tourists / rental sleds. In my experience it is usually the large groups that are dangerous. The first several sleds usually follow the guides who know the rules and ride by them. It's the stragglers or large groups that scare the shit out of me as they tend to be all over the place and generally seem to be oblivious to others and the potential dangers.

Having said that I can also say that I also meet my fair share of "experienced" sledders that push things way too hard in places where they have no business doing so. These are people that should know better.

Rider beware!

okay, looks like someone is responsible when renting or loaning a sled. Check this below!

An Act respecting off-highway vehicles
Offence and penalty.

Article 56.1. A person who offers to rent or rents to another person, for a period of less than 30 days, an off-highway vehicle whose engine power exceeds that determined by the "regulatory standards" is guilty of an offence and is liable to a fine of $250 to $500.

Well that's interesting.... What is the regulatory standards?

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.c...1_2/V1_2_A.html

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