Now that I am getting over my idiot move, I need opinions, Me and a friend and my stepkid will be doing some 1000ft runs this winter. The kid has a 96 ultra with pipes and I am wondering how my 94 700 EFI will run against it. I am trying to keep it stock looking for the 10 year old class and he just wants to beat other 700s. The Poo is anything but a finely tuned thing and I think I am much better at getting things to run, {clutching and tuning, things like that}. Do I have a chance against the Poo so I can rub it in bigtime when he opens his mouth? He is bragging that with my soon to be son in laws help the Poo will "beat any 700". I wish I knew where I could borrow a F7 for a day, LOL just kidding, I know some long time Arctic racers that oval raced a 92 wildcat in its day so maybe I can get some tricks from them. Anyway do I have a chance, I will never hear the end of it if he beats me. I could tell him to make it stock apearing with stock exhaust and see what happens I supose, {ya right}. :div20: Tom

I dont know what to tell u 2 year's ago i had a 98 zl 500 i could beat 2 wildcat's(carb) from a rolling start(30mph).I would get out ahead 1-1 1/2 length's and stay there right till top end.But if we started from a dead stop i would get beat every time by 3-4 length's.The wild's are good out of the hole but once going they are not any faster then a 500 cat.They are a heavy sled for the power they are putting out.Wish ya luck....... :div20:

I think the sleds rev them up were running against must be dogs not Wildcats! The truth is I this the Wildcat 700 needs only very light clutching work, and if you want to spend a little a porting job will wake them up big time. Apparently everyone forgets about the mighty ZR 700! These things were missiles out of the hole AND up top. What kind of clutch is in it? The new AC clutch will make a big difference. Throw some 53 gram weights in there and a purple AC spring. By the time the 680 ultra hits a 1000 feet you will meet him coming back. Good luck. BTW the ZL 500's are freakishly fast so stay away from them!

It has a very low milage 9 tower clutch with stock arms and a BM spring and a BM cam on the secondary. I ran it last year with the stock red spring and if it hooked solid it would carry the skis for at least half of the 1000 ft, would have been farther but it kept pulling slowly to the left away from the radar truck so I had to move ahead to touch the skis. I put the BM spring back in so if it still hooks it should leave harder yet. I drag race a car that has done 60ft in 1.52 seconds, I love that feeling of pulling my arms off. I was faster than the 680 last year but we found a broken motor mount plate in the Poo so it would blow belts. I was disapointed that day when it ran only 87 mph. But my friends 97 700 SX Yami with pipes only went 87.5 and the Poo went 84 on the run the belt stayed in one piece. It was like 45-48 degrees that day and not on clear ice, there was about a inch of hardpack on the track. This was the last race at Waverly Beach last year if anyone else on here knows of it. My Yami friend just got a nice 97 800 ZRT with some clutch work and it would only run 93 so I did not feel to bad when it was all said and done. The Arctic guys I know told me that if mine has never had rings I am probably down about 15-20 HP. The sled has about 4200 miles on it and I don't think the motor has been apart so I want to at least ring it this year. I also got some Boysen reeds on closeout cheap so I want to sneak them in to. I also want to convert the secondary to a roller. The tech guy at Waverly pits next to me at the drag races and he said they will allow plastic skis and the 9 tower clutch in "stock". I also watched the speedo during a couple of runs and it said 90 {87 on the gun so not to far off}at the truck but I could stay in it and make it to 100 on the speedo not far past the truck but there were so many things messed up with it last year that the track turned much harder that it should have and I didn't really have the right studs for ice, I had the studs with the big triangle of carbide at the tip and were to long, on a cement floor I could get my fingers between the lugs and the floor. They would have been the right studs but the lugs on the track are worn so much that they are only 1/2" tall. This year I got 144 ice picks on it and have more if need be. So I am hoping for some 94-96 mph runs with every thing freed up and new rings, If it still tops out way past the truck I might try gearing it down a touch to see if that helps. Also my tach was way off last year, said like 9800 with stock arms and spring, anyway I was looking in the service manual and the kid who had it before me had the brown and yellow wires backwards so I changed that and the tack seems alot happier now. Anyway sorry to write a book here so I will shut up for now. :beerchug: :wut60: Tom W

books are nice, clean up you ports just a little when you do the reed(s) /rings and get a chip for your efi and have your heads cut a little. cant help you on clutch though/sold my 93 efi about 5 years ago( I loved that sled)..........tigger

A properly tuned piped ultra should leave a 700 wildcat for dead. I use to be able to run side by side with my brother in laws 00 zr 700 with the stock pipe on my old 650, from a 50 punch i'd pull, from a 30 punch side by side all the way and i would creep away in the top end, and from a dig, he'd jump a sled link a keep it unless the run was around a mile. The piped ultra is pushing around 145 h.p. vs. around 110-115 for the 700. I guess the wildcat is twin piped, but my 650 has never had an issue beating a wildcat, not to say it couldn't happen but it hasn't yet.

those triple piped ultra's were fast....tigger

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fast but clutched like a weedwacker! Smart Wildcat owners run a 1000 ft race from a dead stop and win often!

Remember the throttle is on the right... :div20:

That's because the 00 ZR7's were dogs! I had a 93 700 Wildcat and would absolutely smoke them. Try a 95 ZR700. Just add a good clutch kit to it and she will take off good. My dad had a 94 700 EFI like yours and I would beat him good on take off but top ends were the same but once I was out front I was there to stay. He put an Erlandson CK in it and it would keep with me on take off. I then bought a D&D kit and would take him out of the hole again but not as much as before when both our sleds were stock.

Hi, I didn't mean to start a war here. But the races others have had are fun to read about. I guess I should have expected some back and forth with such a loaded question :lol2: , kinda like watching the WWE, LOL. I would like to try some tuning on my buddies 700 SX Yami, I think it has atlot more in it than it showed at the speed runs also. He said it was going flat before the truck, so I think the clutching has a problem or it is way under geared. Tom W

If thats a 680 Utra SP then it only had around 115hp if it was an SPX it was triple piped and hade more like 130's. The 680 SP with a clutch kit it would run with any 700 but it was a pooch if not tuned. Its like any sled its only as fast as the persons knowledge riding it. I had a 96 680 SP and it was fast when I got it clutched correctly......

Well from my xperience, the sx 700 is a dog. I have passed many of those no problem. before I had anything done to mine..... I think you have a shot, get the goods from those a/c racers. and then pm them to me! ha ha!.....any info about tuning this motor I would love to have......Good Luck, and hand ass!

I never really thought the 00zr 700 was a dog, my brother in laws always held its own with the similer year 700's, it was very quick from 0-60mph then the higher powerd sleds would begin to overtake it. And he did radar it at 101, the same day my 650 radared 101, there was a xc 700 sp that did 100 and an mxz 700 that only did 98mph.

I have raced some older wildcats with my 650, I always lineup with them to kinda see how the two bad a*# sleds from the old days do against one another, but I believe the ones i've raced were not setup that well, i've spent endless hrs squeezing everything i can out of my 650, and i beliece the WC's i've raced left alot of performance on the table. I would just expect them to be much closer and at least take me in the low end, but out of the 3 or so i've raced it wasn't even close.

The only 700 twin I would bet on to beat a properly tuned(key word) piped ultra would be an F7, the thing is though you see just as many poorly running ultra's that can't beat a 600 as you do the fast ones that can run with big twins and triples so its really dependent on how well the sled is setup. Just run'em. Then tell us.

The 680 must be a SP, it had a single pipe when stock, the pipes are aftermarket ones. Tom W

I HAVE OWNED SEVEN 700 ENGINED ARCTIC CATS. ASIDE FROM THE MODIFIED ONE I BUILT, THE 2000 ZR 700 I KEEP NOW FOR SENTIMENTAL REASONS IS THE FASTEST. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE PUT A LOT INTO YOUR 94. THEY MAKE GOOD POWER AND IF YOU COULD ONLY PORT IT THEY ROCK. ARE YOU DOING DRAG RACES OR RADAR RUNS?

Sorry I got behind on this post, I am looking at 1000ft radar runs, but don't want to get it so far out there it won't trail ride decent. Tom W

Freind's 99zr 700 went 98 on the gun in 1400-1500ft..new 900 went 102.

Hi, Well we went to radar run saturday and I beat the 680 polaris but we were both not even near the ball park. I ran 89mph and he ran 88. I tried mine this time with the BM spring in the clutch instead of the red arctic one. I started with the secondary clutch in middle hole, on first run then backed off the spring one hole each run after, it want faster each time I backed it off but ran out of holes. I got in the vintage III class but like I said, not even in the ballpark, top speed was 99 something, don't know what kind of sled, second was almost 92 and a nice 1973 EXT did that I assume a 650 and I had 89. I guess I need to get top end freshend up and get clutching set up like the advice others on this forum have gave me on the 700s. With the BM spring in clutch and 144 spikes it would not even come close to hooking, I would nail it and spin and let up and nail it again then it would lift skis some. I have not got my tach calibrated yet but BM told me it should engage about 4300 or so with that spring. With my new straight drive shaft and drive sprokets turned around to run on unworn side and new bearings in suspension wheels where needed I did pick up about 2 1/2 mph from last year. I didn't get to see the 680 run so I don't know what its problem was, but after my last run the stepkid parked his ultra and wanted to ride my old wildcat, LOL.I did get to put on 25 miles riding on the lake so that was cool. Sorry for rambling on so long. PS, A mod arctic took top speed class at 146.7 mph, never got to see it up close so I have no idea what it was other than I know it was a 3 cyl and very low and very long. TomW

Hello wildcat700, Can I ask what cam you had in the secondary clutch and what gearing for 1000ft? [getting more snow today, kewl} TomW

What rpm do you run it at? I would think 8000, then pulling up to 8300 at the end would be right. I know most cats like polaris weights, as they are more aggressive shifting.

Its a Black Magic -4 cam, they won't tell me the angles. It has the stock 23-40 gears, And I still need to get my tach calibrated, till then I don't know the correct rpm. I do know for sure that rpm drops off as the clutch fully shifts buy about 400 rpm. I turned down my tach to get it in the ballpark anyway, still need to have it put on machine to get it right, anyway it would jump to about 8200-8300 at first then pull down to about 7800-7900 at the end of the run. I need to call my buddy and get a couple cams that I know what they are and start over on the cluthing. I am kinda lost right now with the BM kit in it. TomW