firecats can take little abuse i mean it was just about the same chasie as the 02-03 sno pro i just tighten the supension. i know the 04-07 firecats are a lot more durable and are ment for it but i realy dont want to sell my sled cause i do go with my friends in the ditches and other places and a 440 coulden't handle riding that long at a time. and i do have enough experance for a fsx or mabey a comp 1 but i was thinking of going with a fsx ramp little more mello than a comp 1 but can still learn some new tricks.

I don't care how much u 'tighten' your suspension, that sled is gonna be a wreck after a few hits. Not only that your body is gonna take a beating. Dont waste your time building that fsx ramp, build a comp ramp. If u jump 20 ft snow jumps u likely aren't actually ready to step up to a legit ramp. Sorry to rain on the parade but i've seen alot of people get badly hurt trying to hit a ramp without enough experience. But hey if u like getting hurt and wrecking sleds weld up a ramp and have a ball.

alright then how do i go about working my way up to a legit ramp and do you think i could trade my firecat chasie for a sno pro and stick the f5 motor in it since it's the same electrical.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...ideoid=27656627

^^^ theres that vid that CJ was walking about where the guy is jumping the F6. If i were you I'd build a comp ramp and get used to it at a very small gap at first. Dont try hucking yourself right off the bat. Nothing is really gonna get u ready for hitting a ramp other than hitting a ramp. But yea, get a race sled. Good luck

ok i'll go with the comp 1 ramp not the fsx i emailed heath frisby and he said he could ship one to my house but he hasent goten back on the price and i thinks it's cheaper to build one since i have time and how cheap could i pick up a 04-07 sno pro chasie how much could i sell my firecat chasie and dose anyone have a video of the comp 1 ramp and the cut list and thanks for all of your advice

Good call man but youre gonna spend wayy less money building one yourself rather than gettin it shipped. You could sell your sled for enough to get a decent race sled. Check the vid i posted up, the ramp we're hitting is a comp 1 set up at about 50 feet.

Oh and another thing. If youre gonna get into this pretty seriously I would suggest buying some decent protective equip. Get a tek vest or moto-x chest protector, some decent kneepads, a neck brace of some sort, boots that give lots of ankle support like HMKs or snowboarding boots, and a mouthguard too. Dont cheap out on the stuff either. I was rocking shitty kneepads for a year and then I came up short and busted my kneecap in half. A few hundred bucks in safety gear is a hell of a lot better than thousands in medical bills.

Yea definitely need to get some decent protective equipment before I do anything and are you talking about the video of the guy jumping the F6. I also took a look at the pics of the freestyle competition you posted looks pretty sick. But I was also wondering what size landing i should build I was thinking somthing like the fsx landing but a little bigger so I have more room for error. and is this a picture of a comp 1 ramp looks a little taller then 7.8ft

Yeah thats a comp 1 in the pic. With a comp 1 you should build a landing anywhere between 10-14 feet high, how far you drag out the transition is up to you. Some people like steeper landings for a perfectly smooth landing but others, like myself, prefer a longer landing so you dont have to worry about being so precise.

alright i just have one more question is their a way to make the comp 1 ramp more like a superkicker after a few seasons on the comp 1 and what do you use in the middle of the ramp were the track goes

Keep in mind how much dirt it takes to build a propper landing, took us 10-12 full dumptruck loads of dirt, if you dont have connections and the right equiptment it can get really expensive. You cut a track and screw it to the ramp for traction. Alot of people also lay down a string of tracks for part of the run in...helps a ton for traction.

For reference all the video links in my signature are us hittin our comp 1 ramp.

If you want more pop out of the comp 1 you can prop up the front end. Check out the .gif thing in my signature, thats me off a comp 1 propped up 18 inches on railroad ties. Its not exactly like a superkicker but it works.

hey i emaild levi LaVallee and he said to go with the superkicker and that your going to need 90+ ft to do anything decent on a comp 1 and with a kicker he learned grab tricks at 40 ft and said that It boots you so high and is really smooth. frisby also said to go with kicker. but i watched some of your video at the freestyle and you can learn some grab tricks on a comp 1 but you were also at a 70ft gap. so i am not totaly shure here what to do.

Heres Ben Copp off a comp ramp at 35-40 feet. Stick with the comp for now, if u get tired of it u can always sell it and get a kicker. Dont go too big too soon.

ok comp it is i guess i can learn enough new tricks on it and once i get comfortable with it i'll take it to my grampa's farm and hit it in the summer and build a kicker for winter i think i got enough information that i can start building it this april.

good luck man. keep us updated on the progress.

will do might even get a chance to hit it in the summer but i am going to need the cut list and now i start working soon i just have a summer job at this boat yard and marine so i can get some money to build it.

Im looking to build a little freestyle place for myself, with just the comp 1.

Just a few Q'S.

I want to build the landing out of dirt roughly how much will it cost for all the dirt?

Im jumping about a 25-40 foot gap, how much room to you think I need off the landing to be safe?

Not sure on the cost of dirt.

by "room off the landing" do you mean the out-run so slow down? If thats what you mean then you dont need much. I would say 20-30 feet tops.

Cut list anyone??

for which ramp?

zrrider you guys gotta get more pics of this sh!t.

Hello boys and girls!

First, I'm sorry about my bad english :/

We are building 2-3 ramps here in Finland. There is only few of us in this project, but we have done almost everything redy. We have landings, materials, equipments, lights (it's so dark here)..etc etc, BUT we don't have any accurate plans of these ramps.
Can someone send those plans and cut lists to me? I need Competition and Superkicker full plans.

This is quite new genre here in Finland, but we are trying to make it more known. We have some local sponsors and one big snowmobiling club behind uss, so this might end well.
If you get quickly those plans to me and we are active and build those ramps fast, we might be ready just after snow...
I will send you some pics of our project all the time...if u like?!

My e-mail: janne.vuojarvi@hotmail.com and our "local" forum is: www.kelkkalehti.com/kekustelu


Best regards,

Janne Vuojarvi, Team Frosty - Finland

Hey!

Thank you for the ramp plans!
I did take a quick look of those plans, but I didn't find the radius of those ramps? It might be somewhere there, but if you know it, please tell me.
We have already 3x6m(19,68ft) steel tubes bended R=8m(26,25ft). Those bended tubes are not stiff, so we can change the radius little.
Next 3 steel tubes are waiting, that we deside the radius for second ramp...

So, I hope you get the point of my indefinete writing All I need is radius of Competition and Superkicker ramps?
And if you can tell me, what is the general angle for landings if you use those two ramps...can we just make one BIG landing at same angle for both ramps!?

Best regards,

Janne Vuojarvi, Team Frosty - Finland

SCS doesn't give a radius angle. They just say to cut the uprights to the right length and then ratchet strap the top rails to the uprights as you go, which will bend the top rail and create the correct angle.

A super kicker needs a landing that's quite a bit steeper and taller than you need for a comp ramp. Here are a bunch of photos of each.


Super Kicker




Comp Ramp

Or this page shows a set up with one huge landing with super kicker, comp ramp, and snow jumps all using the same landing. There is a a comp ramp and landing in line before the comp ramp that goes to the big landing too. Oh and a snow double rhythm section.

http://www.exconfreeride.com/photos07parkadam.php

anybody have any pics, experience, cut list, and directions with the practice ramp? Thanks a ton!

heres a vid from the first day i ever hit a ramp. the ramp i was jumping is between a practice ramp and a comp 1 so its pretty mellow. the gap was about 60 feet.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...VideoID=6138039

cut list for the comp 1??

Looks MINT! anyone have any info i asked for above?

As far as directions go...

build one side at a time
weld the tallest support to the bottom rail
then weld all the support pieces
weld the curved rail in next, use a ratchet strap to bend it into place
build the other side the same way. you can lay it on top of your first side to save on measuring
stand both sides up and weld some pieces to hold them upright
start welding the deck supports, starting from the bottom and working your way up.

it took about 10 hours to put my superkicker together.

Ok thanks alot.

Me and a couple friends made a superkicker and was just wonding what you used to bolt down the plywood. i thought of using self tapping screws into the crossmember and was wondering what other guys use.

self tappers

We finally got our superkicker up and running! We wanted to be able to still jump the comp ramp so we just tested out the superkicker at around 50ft...kinda hairy for the first superkicker hit.




superkicker on the left comp on the right


3rd jump of the season on my bone stock nytro tank.

Yeah, hitting a kicker at 50 ft is a hell of a lot slower than hitting a comp ramp at 65 feet, eh!

aint kickers awesome??

I have a set of old plans and it calls for a 20 degree angle at the top. I don't think that is going to give enough pop. What was the angle at the top of the Super Kicker ramp?

superkickers are 50 degrees at the lip. That gives you enough pop...

Not sure if you guys are fimilair with this or not but. At EVO sledpark one of the ramps was a "comp 1" and the other was a "comp 2" the comp 2 had a steeper lip almost like a super kicker. Isthere any plans for this ramp ? the comp 1 reminded me more of a distance ramp where the comp 2 was more about height. However they were both set at 60 feet. Can anyone elaborate.

Cool I figured it was around 50. Thanks