W8N4SN0W
Dec 6 2006, 11:04 AM
I was really hoping they wouldn't end up installing a wind farm on the Kibby range. This will change the view from many mtn. tops we all ride from here on...Especially from the border.
Kibby Range Wind Farm
what?trail?
Dec 6 2006, 04:38 PM
not really a bad thing if you ask me... they are actually really cool if you have ever been to one. it will bring local jobs in and help out local economy......
i wish i could feed my camp from the one going on black nubble!!!!!
OnTheEdge
Dec 6 2006, 07:53 PM
^^^^What he said!
Would you rather have a fossil fuel or gas plant to look at instead? Let's face it, no one bitches when their lights are on, but they bitch when the power goes out. We could have no new power generation and live with rolling black/brown outs..............
buchholr
Dec 7 2006, 06:51 AM
:beer: We have them here in upstate NY in the Tug Hill Plateau area.They do a good job and they look ok to me.No damage to the land and when something new comes along it's and easy removeal and clean up.
steved28
Dec 7 2006, 08:16 AM
As one who is within eyeshot of a power plant, count your blessings.
venturer
Dec 7 2006, 08:32 AM
These windfarms could be a good thing from a snowmobiling perspective. Those access roads up to the turbines are going to offer killer views. Now if they don't plow the access roads, which they might not due to all the drifting, there's going to be some great sledding in them thar hills. I don't think we'll get a groomed trail up those access roads, but off trail sledding should be sweet. I say bring it on!
EvilHomer
Dec 7 2006, 09:13 AM
Welcome V. Had enough of Sledpolestein.com too? We're all over here now. :beerchug:
Also try www.mainesledder.com we need more active members over there.
W8N4SN0W
Dec 7 2006, 10:00 AM
I would rather not see a 370' tall turbine out in that area, but at the least, (if this goes forward) hope that the area will see some tax benefits. We don't need that wind farm on Kibby range, the electricity it generates is going to be shipped to Canada. Between Redington township where a wind farm is being proposed right now, and they Kibby range off from Goldbrook rd. you'll see the things no matter where your at. An eye sore to some, and to others obviously not. If there was a need for the wind farm in this area I wouldn't really care, but that isn't the case.
legend700
Dec 7 2006, 10:07 AM
i look everyday at a nuke plant that pushes all the power to NY so theres lots of plants that don't directly benefit the town they are in but you build the plants where they make sense for the source. Nuke plants need a good water supply and wind farms need a location with a steady wind. Just because they will use Canadian transmission lines doesn't mean all the power is being used there. A majority of the power in Eastern Canada comes back here to New England so ME will get benfits of this.
steved28
Dec 7 2006, 03:20 PM
QUOTE(legend700 @ Dec 7 2006, 11:07 AM)

A majority of the power in Eastern Canada comes back here to New England so ME will get benfits of this.
I'm glad someone said this. Just look at your CMP bill next time it comes. You will see that they are mandated to use so much "green energy". A lot of (25%, I think) it comes from nuclear. So obviously this power makes it back to Maine at some point. I think CMP just recently sent out these statistics in a seperate mailing.
stevefromwestford
Dec 7 2006, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(legend700 @ Dec 7 2006, 11:07 AM)

i look everyday at a nuke plant that pushes all the power to NY so theres lots of plants that don't directly benefit the town they are in but you build the plants where they make sense for the source. Nuke plants need a good water supply and wind farms need a location with a steady wind. Just because they will use Canadian transmission lines doesn't mean all the power is being used there. A majority of the power in Eastern Canada comes back here to New England so ME will get benfits of this.
So does living near seabrook bother you at all? " me , no not at all , not sure what the family thinks, let me go home and ask my baldheaded children"
97trip
Dec 7 2006, 04:28 PM
Just explored that area this weekend. (ironic) I don't know much about wind farms but certainly the thought of any industry in a prestine secluded place such as this concerns everyone. If it must go through than Maine resedents (part or full time) must see to it that some economic advantige is relised. Not just 3cents off there electric bill but somthing that is substantial. Hold those in control to the fire. As sledders those areas for our sake must be open to public use. That means as few plowed roads as possible.
F-7 Dude
Dec 7 2006, 04:38 PM
The company that put those wind turbines on tug is the company my kid is there safety inspector. he needs to keep his job to pay me back what he borrowed in college, so don't complain about those damn windmills. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
97trip
Dec 7 2006, 05:02 PM
After reading more my question is "why canada and not maine?" Our state and country can't efford to continually keep selling out to outsiders.
F7 dude should have made him borrow it on a student loan. Would have helped him build credit and gotten you off the hook!
97trip
Dec 7 2006, 05:16 PM
Also, part of the reason I say this is while exploring this weekend the only roads I found that were posted and I mean HEVELY posted were F'n Canadian owned loggen companies. Sure U fn a hole give it awy so you can finance your kids eduacation and hope the brat pays you back. Bit of advise: leave the loan business to the banks and federal government so it dosn't warp your sernse of what is right for the general public. More specificly what is right for Maine sledders.
what?trail?
Dec 7 2006, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(W8N4SN0W @ Dec 7 2006, 11:00 AM)

I would rather not see a 370' tall turbine out in that area, but at the least, (if this goes forward) hope that the area will see some tax benefits. We don't need that wind farm on Kibby range, the electricity it generates is going to be shipped to Canada. Between Redington township where a wind farm is being proposed right now, and they Kibby range off from Goldbrook rd. you'll see the things no matter where your at. An eye sore to some, and to others obviously not. If there was a need for the wind farm in this area I wouldn't really care, but that isn't the case.
still going to supply plenty of jobs in MAINE and supply revenue to MAINE-- they dont run and maintain themselves... plus it will all be union wage jobs :div20:
phazerdude
Dec 7 2006, 06:14 PM
QUOTE(steved28 @ Dec 7 2006, 04:20 PM)

I'm glad someone said this. Just look at your CMP bill next time it comes. You will see that they are mandated to use so much "green energy". A lot of (25%, I think) it comes from nuclear. So obviously this power makes it back to Maine at some point. I think CMP just recently sent out these statistics in a seperate mailing.
The power is to be sent to Stratton Maine and onto the CMP grid via a tie to the bigelow substation. The power will flow into Maine, but the $$$$ from the sale of the power will flow to Canada. However this should provide some good jobs for some Maine people constructing the towers, turbines, controls and transmission line. There should be some Mainers employed long term doing maint and operations.
ZRMark
Dec 7 2006, 07:15 PM
They are in the middle of installing 28 windmills on the top of Mars Hill here in Northern ME. I'm sure not used too looking at them yet. But I agree green power is better. They sure are big.
zr5boy
Dec 7 2006, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(ZRMark @ Dec 7 2006, 08:15 PM)

They are in the middle of installing 28 windmills on the top of Mars Hill here in Northern ME. I'm sure not used too looking at them yet. But I agree green power is better. They sure are big.
There were only a few up there last time i was up, finally made it up this past weekend and wow...all the way across to big rock and going up beyond, not attractive if you ask me.
97trip
Dec 7 2006, 09:54 PM
Canadian company canadian employs, the border is not so very far away.
legend700
Dec 8 2006, 09:17 AM
whats up with all the Canadian hate on here
barrysledxc
Dec 8 2006, 08:45 PM
They built a windmill farm in Forest City, Pa and the electric goes to Texas and then to California because the markets are more lucrative. If you think the locals are going to get work and revenue out of this they smoked you too. They will bring their own people and crews in to erect, you will get lodging and fast mart business. Then when they are done the gates go up on the access roads.
97trip
Dec 8 2006, 09:50 PM
Precisely barrysledxc!
what?trail?
Dec 9 2006, 07:40 AM
QUOTE(barrysledxc @ Dec 8 2006, 09:45 PM)

They built a windmill farm in Forest City, Pa and the electric goes to Texas and then to California because the markets are more lucrative. If you think the locals are going to get work and revenue out of this they smoked you too. They will bring their own people and crews in to erect, you will get lodging and fast mart business. Then when they are done the gates go up on the access roads.
of course their crews will come for the construction..
BUT... local welders and laborers will get work, local concrete companys will get work, local equipment(crane and excavation) owners and operators will get work, local wood cutters will get work, local gravel pits will sell and haul material, local food, gas and lodging establishments will get income from it... and with most jobs this size more of the work will be sub-contracted to local companys than anything. thats how they write off the expense of such a project. i am sure MAINE drilling and blasting will prosper in these projects. dont forget - trucks and such from canada cannot come to the U.S. and work a project, unless they want to register every piece of equipment here.... thats why they sub everything out -- but if they do the state will get a shitload of tax and reg. money and also the local town will get some sweet property tax for the farm which helps everyone else
keep in mind long term running of the farm .. it doesnt just spin all day sending electricity out... there is constant maint., repair and supervision. It will not be employee's from canada driving to and from the farm for work... think about it. times are a changing.. everyone think long term... not about the view that probably really doesnt affect you- unless its from your house window
maybe sue the parent company after its complete for loss of view injury
just my 2 cents
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