Read it with a :beer: cause it sounds real good for the Dragon

So, how hot is this new 700? It is a quick-revving engine, spinning briskly up to 8250 RPM. It winds up to peak RPM faster than say a Firecat 700, and has a whisker more power on top. Probably three-four horse would be our best guess right now, @ 140+ HP. We?ll see. The midrange pull is said to be 15% stronger than the 600 at 6500 RPM, right where you do a lot of riding.

yea it is 780 CC or sumthing, a firecat is a true 700c sled, not no cheater

What are u talking about :burp: This is the 2007 700cc dragon not a 755 like 06 :linemup:

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Man, our school systems have really gone down hill.

That's the first thing I thought as well. Sad really..

Good news in regards to the dragon! I can't wait to see them run this winter! :div20:

As long as your not bitter.

Even IF the 07 Dragon had 780cc's (or SUMthing), SO WHAT. The almighty F-7 can beat any sled, no matter the engine size! Even without Chuck Norris as the pilot!!! :frech32:



Sounds like the F-7 faithful is scared the Dragon will dethrone the F-7........... :smilielol:

It's been a while since we had an F7 stooge wander in. Always good for a laugh.

i hope you guy's with the 700 dragon's put a good whoopin on the f7's this year.

Sounds like the Cat guys are crying in their wine. First off, get the facts straight. Secondly, Get used to getting smoked this season by Polaris.

you guys need a life!!!!!!!!

Sitting beside Oldtimer

Personally, I think the Cat guys should be laughing at the Polaris guys...even if the 07 Dragon will beat an F7, it took Polaris 5 years to figure out how to do it! In the meantime, Cat has been working on their smokin' 1000 big-block, and Polaris' biggest, baddest sled is a bored-out small block designed to beat a now obsolete Cat.

I wish Polaris had built something decent sized or 4-stroke, instead of building a new 700 class...

While some of your statement makes sense, Just remember the 700cc Dragon is going to be competeing with a hell of alot of F7s & MXZ800s Already on the trail........... a lot more than with F 1000s & Mach Zs.

I don't see why anyone should be laughing the cat guys don't have there mothership f7 anymore. There just stuck with two new overweight trail sleds. Have fun ditchbangin the f series, at least you have a nice water-proof trunk on the back :frech32: The f7 has been the dominate sled for a few years now its gone, and Polaris jumped in and hopefully made a better one. As successful as the F7 was it would be stupid to not make a similar sled.

The Dragon will be directly compared to everyone else's 800cc sleds, since there is no 700 class. I think it will hold it's own until Polaris releases "bigger" sleds. Polaris is in a rebuilding stage, and is wise to take it slowly, even if it means bringing ONE new engine out at a time. The last thing they need/want is a "flop" like the 755 and 866 engines. (I use that word, "flop", because that's how these engines are percieved by the general snowmobiling community). I would like to see an 800 that puts out 155 hp, and a 1000 that cranks out 180 hp. A high-boost 4-stroke (180 hp) would also be pretty slick. :div20:

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This man has it right. :beerchug:

I look forward to the F having some sort of competition this winter, and in the 700 class. Instead of beating up on the 800's.

The SRX700 is the fastes 700 made.

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700 polaris ?? thats going to be one rare machine cause they built about 1/2 dozen of them. who cares if they are fast, there is no way that they will dethrone the F7 in straightline racing where rules are involved.

I guess you never raced a good running SRX. :frech32:

one thing is for damn sure. the polaris guys are as good at making up excuses than polaris themselves.

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TRIPLE VS TWIN :frech32: :frech32: APPLE VS ORANGE :frech32: :frech32:

I dont think he said the fastes 700 twin! :frech32:

WELL I HOPE THAT A SRX 700 TRIPLE/TRIPLE WOULD BEAT F7 TWIN SINGLE PIPE ON TOP. :frech32:

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I don't see why anyone should be laughing the cat guys don't have there mothership f7 anymore. There just stuck with two new overweight trail sleds. Have fun ditchbangin the f series, at least you have a nice water-proof trunk on the back :frech32: The f7 has been the dominate sled for a few years now its gone, and Polaris jumped in and hopefully made a better one. As successful as the F7 was it would be stupid to not make a similar sled.
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i think you read to much bro...my sled(f-1000 s/p)makes my f-7(all 3 of them feel very junky.in my opinion these new sleds are WAY better in the ditches.i pounded mine hard in pipelines last saturday and was blown away.my whole crew just had to get a ride on it.they all ride f-7s and all agreed.i have never been on a sled with such a feel....not even close.we know...we ride them and we own them...you just keep reading your magazines.....oh,by the way...the f-7 is a solid trail rig IF it's a sno pro and IF it's set up right...we all own them and we never thought they were that fast or that "dominating"...i really would not be so geeked if i were you.besides,it's purely speculation anyways...you really don't know if polaris has built a sled to hang with the out-dated cat...think about it??? way to look forward polaris...nice vision....

wow,This really shows how much you know about sleds, enough said! :smilielol:

I agree, too much too late perhaps




Last time i checked ski-doos 800R was puttin out 151 hp.

Thats what Skidoo says, Who knows if it really makes that much.

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That is what my Father in Law's neighbor keeps saying... so naturally he has a different excuse every time that he got beat by a friend of mine's BONE stock 03 F7... he even had my friend open his hood, didn't believe the F7 was stock....

From what i have seen a good running SRX will beat the average F7, but won't touch a good running 03 F7. I have a good running Mach 1 that seems to be ALMOST as fast as the SRX, but it won't touch a good running F7.

it will.

You think so?

Cat is about the only one who doesnt over rate their sleds, ski-doo and polaris lean out a pre-production model, but its not the same when it goes to production. Look at dyno numbers, ski-doo overrates about 5hp on the 800, and the only reason polaris didnt make a bigger motor is because they couldnt get motor mounts to work, redesigned and they still failed. Didnt think motor mounts would be that hard to figure out, but I guess I dont get paid the big bucks..lol The article about the motor mounts was in snow tech magazine in septembers issue, and my professor taught a class to some of the guys at polaris, my college is only a couple hours from Roseau and Thief River Falls.
:burp: PEACE

in a mountain sled, 140 in the 800 P-Tech..... who knows wether or not it (the 151 HP motor) will make it to a flat land sled... the 800 cat in the mountain sleds have also dynoed at 150, again who knows if they will tune the sleds for us flat landers to have 150+ HP either.. IMO they are both in the same boat.

yeah, poo guys are braggin about their dragon RMK being the best mountain sled too

born to ride - take a look at CMSARACING.COM under World Records and tell me who has manufactured the fastest stock production 700 snowmobile. :tease:

That's an impressive number for the stock 800 single pipe being a 700. :beer:

Going to be a good sled, but the best... who knows. The 07 600 HO that i rode was a kick ass sled, i think the Dragon is going to kick ass, i don't know if it is going to beat 800's, but honestly i would take one regardless.

I am new to this, but from what I have heard a perfect 2003 F7 will kick the crap out of anything on the trail. I think it is great that AC has some competition, it is always nice to have another sled to throw around the block!

True the 800R is in the summit package, but i guess mountain sleds are all i really look at, so i don't really know any different.

I think you hit the nail right on the head! :div20:

I sure hope you're joking. The F7 was probably one of the most overrated engines in the history of snowmobiling (In terms of how much power it made). Most of them were lower 130's and a few of them hit 140 HP. Arctic Cat always claimed 140 HP.

You do realize I hope that all of those wins was not just because of the engine, but because of how it got put to the ground.

Only the mountain sled has the 151 HP engine....Flatlanders get the same old 140 hp version.




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And being from New friggin Jersey, you know what is and isn't the top mountain sled...just like I would know...




On the trail, it's waaay more rider than it is sled. I would NOT be afraid to ride with/against anyone when it comes to trail riding...even with riding my "tugboat" that would never be able to compete with an F-7!





Ding ding ding.....we have a winner. The flimsy, but very fast/efficient F-cat chassis had more to do with the speed of a Fire-rat than did the engine that Suzuki built for it............................

I imagine they should be close.
I hear the srx guys talking about that sled being the fastest. What year was it made? Why didn't the stock F7 destroy it? Skidoo? Polaris?

I'm going to enjoy my sled, not worry that it isn't the fastest sled in the world, but because it should be one of the best all round sleds for where I ride. I rode a 600 and wanted some more power so I'm getting a 700. 500/600/700 are probably the 3 most popular engines in snowmobiles, I imagine 600 is number 1. Why did Polaris stop last years 755/900, because they had to. There will be a larger engine coming one day, hopefully they have learned from their mistakes.

All companies change designs/engines etc. I'm glad that I can get the 700 I want, I'm sure there a few guys wishing AC made an 07 F7, because they don't want a 6 or an 8.

The Polaris 700 WILL be the bomb. Congrats on the new sled!!! :div20:

And Polaris WILL be #1 again. So they F-7ed the pooch.....they have learned from that and will slowly, but surely, show the sled world what time it is!! :div20:

i'll see you out on the lakes dragon owners :div20: