yz426
Nov 15 2006, 09:50 PM
I am going to be getting a rumble pack can for my f7. Down around here there arent any wardens, but we will be going up to Jackman and Grafton a few times this winter, what will the wardens have to say about them.. Ive been to Moosehead and seen guys with cans on their sled that were LOUD but i dont know how the wardens take action when you go by one... Any one have experience with this?
jaspolaris
Nov 15 2006, 09:58 PM
we ride in the Forks and the County all of us either have pipes or mbrp cans and none us have ever been bothered by wardens. I think as long as you don't draw to much attention to yourself you should be fine.
J45p3r
Nov 15 2006, 09:59 PM
I "heard" they were writing tickets for them last winter up in the County.
Blazin
Nov 16 2006, 01:33 AM
QUOTE(J45p3r @ Nov 15 2006, 10:59 PM)

I "heard" they were writing tickets for them last winter up in the County.
I would suggest being easy on the throttle when your around town or around residences. Out in the woods...BRAAAAP. Not saying they won't bust you out in the middle of nowhere, but BRAAAAP in town and I'm sure you'll be asking for trouble. A little common sense goes a long way. Good luck to ya :div20:
skidoo4us
Nov 16 2006, 04:33 AM
THe Wife and I ride the County .Last season Was stopped for a Check in Portage and Was asked if our sleds were stock (They are ) We were made to open the hoods to proove it and even then One of the Wardens Was Questioning me>> So I would say If you run into a Trail check point You would earn a Piece of TP!
mbickF7
Nov 16 2006, 06:01 AM
A friend got a big fine ( I think it was around 180.00 ) in the county 2 years ago using a MBRP can on his F7. He was out of town on one of the rail beds. I use to have the same can and never had any trouble, but you never know.
classic7
Nov 16 2006, 09:15 AM
a few years back in Jackman they gave a person a warning for loud pipes to leave and never to come back or they were going to ticket and next ofense take the sled
they came to were he was stayin
CrossRev
Nov 16 2006, 10:48 AM
last year me and a couple friends got stopped in rangeley, (one was in front with a thundercat 1000 with a mbrp and the warden made him open his hood). I had a rumble pack on my crossfire, but was quiet when we pulled up to them. So if u think u might be coming to a place where there could be a stop or where wardens would be (example would be any big intersections) just let off on the throttle and run it easy...after that BRAAP out. :cn:
edit: the warden asked where he got the exaust, my buddy told him it was on it when he bought it. He warned if he did not put the stock exaust back on that he would get a 100 dollar fine next time. Whatever.
steved28
Nov 16 2006, 02:14 PM
OK, stupid question....
With all the obstacles we seem to have to overcome (land owners, greenies, new development, etc) why would one even want to make sledding look (and sound) worse to the public by making them louder? Does it really make the sled perform better? or is it just the small penis syndrome?
CouchingTiger
Nov 16 2006, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(steved28 @ Nov 16 2006, 03:14 PM)

OK, stupid question....
With all the obstacles we seem to have to overcome (land owners, greenies, new development, etc) why would one even want to make sledding look (and sound) worse to the public by making them louder? Does it really make the sled perform better? or is it just the small penis syndrome?
Agreed, if there is one thing that we are constantly getting complaints from landowners about, its the noise. Loud rigs get trails closed, period.
-Couch
HuntFishSled
Nov 16 2006, 04:55 PM
QUOTE(CouchingTiger @ Nov 16 2006, 04:17 PM)

Agreed, if there is one thing that we are constantly getting complaints from landowners about, its the noise. Loud rigs get trails closed, period.
-Couch
Also, how much fun is it always worrying if your going to get nabbed by a Warden.
2003F5
Nov 16 2006, 05:39 PM
i had a mbrp on my f5 and came to a trail crossing in jackman where there were wardens checking registrations. I didn't relize they were wardens so i was planning on just slowing down and riding by, i let off some so it wasn't too loud and a guy pointed me off the the side along with a buddy and the other 2 guys riding with us. The warden just asked for my registration and didn't say anything about it being to loud. I never worry about getting nabbed for loud exhaust. I have been riding for around 3 times and that was the first and only time I have ever seen a warden on the trails. Just use some common sence and think about where you are before your crack er open. And to everyone asking why people like cans, I like my sled to have a nice deep rumble and they sound sick....mabey not to older guys
BTW, My f7 had a rumble pack on it when i bought it, sounds mean!
hlhinc2000
Nov 16 2006, 05:54 PM
if it's too loud your too OLD!!!
:beerchug:
steved28
Nov 16 2006, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(hlhinc2000 @ Nov 16 2006, 06:54 PM)

if it's too loud your too OLD!!!
:beerchug:
Ya, but maybe some of us older folks own some of that land you get to ride on...
nben
Nov 16 2006, 06:41 PM
Cans don't add power, pipes do. It should be up us (the consumer) to expect and demand the aftermarket manufacturers to produce power QUIETLY, it's the responsible thing to do and it can be done....
lucky1x
Nov 16 2006, 06:43 PM
I have loud pipes on my race sled--but I am not a big fan of the real loud ones on the trail....It does piss off some landowners--me included if its late at night. I get a kick out of people that put them on for performance--It usually slows down the sled :smilielol: :frech32:
GearHd6
Nov 16 2006, 07:00 PM
The younger kids like the loud pipes. They think its cool but they dont realize what it does to the land owners that maybe ride a sled on the trails a few times a season. They dont want to hear that crap at midnight when they're trying to get a good night sleep so they can go to work and make payments on that land they're LETTING us ride on.
fastrider
Nov 16 2006, 07:07 PM
QUOTE(yz426 @ Nov 15 2006, 10:50 PM)

I am going to be getting a rumble pack can for my f7. Down around here there arent any wardens, but we will be going up to Jackman and Grafton a few times this winter, what will the wardens have to say about them.. Ive been to Moosehead and seen guys with cans on their sled that were LOUD but i dont know how the wardens take action when you go by one... Any one have experience with this?
if you want some more power just get the BMP pipe mod. much more power :div20:
yz426
Nov 16 2006, 07:23 PM
Wow, i wasnt looking for everyones opinion on having a can.. I was looking for info on what a warden will do.. But thanks anyways. To those of you that did answer my question, thanks!
strangeland2
Nov 16 2006, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(yz426 @ Nov 16 2006, 08:23 PM)

Wow, i wasnt looking for everyones opinion on having a can.. I was looking for info on what a warden will do.. But thanks anyways. To those of you that did answer my question, thanks!
They will arrest you and let bubba modify your can.

:div20:
lucky1x
Nov 16 2006, 07:47 PM
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
hlhinc2000
Nov 16 2006, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(steved28 @ Nov 16 2006, 07:03 PM)

Ya, but maybe some of us older folks own some of that land you get to ride on...
Hey stevey I dont know about you but I OWN my house and the 8 acres it sits on. So just cause my profile says I'm only 25 means I can't be a land owner? Sorry steve, I just guess the young stereotype is getting pretty old for me.But as far as the loud pipe or can I say this, I have one and probably will until i stop riding (never)!Well if the old folks don't like noise guys, you are more than welcome at my house!! :div20:
strangeland2
Nov 16 2006, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(hlhinc2000 @ Nov 16 2006, 08:48 PM)

Hey stevey I dont know about you but I OWN my house and the 8 acres it sits on. So just cause my profile says I'm only 25 means I can't be a land owner? Sorry steve, I just guess the young stereotype is getting pretty old for me.But as far as the loud pipe or can I say this, I have one and probably will until i stop riding (never)!Well if the old folks don't like noise guys, you are more than welcome at my house!! :div20:
You did 1200 miles on 8 acres? Now thats hardcore. :frech32:
CrossRev
Nov 16 2006, 10:49 PM
Ok. I think that having a can should be in the owner of the sled's resposibility to KNOW where he is riding and if he will be waking anybody up. I have cans on all my sleds and most of my riding is done in the back country and NOT at night so that so that seems to be fine in the eyes of most because i am not bothering anyone for the most part. But for others that BRAAP around other people's land and BRAAP through the middle of Jackman at 3 in the morning are just fucking idiots. These are the people that should get fined big time.
This all just seems to be a matter of personal opinion, i like loud sleds, sometimes they can get annoying especially if they are riding by your house (obviously).
Here is an intresting fact that i would like to know. What percentage of snowmobiles are in hearing distance of houses/farms/inhabited buildings (cuz this is the main problem right? Loud sleds passing by houses?) and for what amount of that time are they running?
food for thought.

edit: sorry for hyjacking the thread, but this is what happens when u say "can" amongst a bunch of adults :|
RSracin05
Nov 16 2006, 11:59 PM
still not as loud as harleys and i hear those at all hours of the day
srx7000
Nov 17 2006, 05:22 AM
Riding outside of portage last year me and my brother got tickets for altering exhaust. He had d&d can on thundercat I had bender can on srx. Three weeks later hit another checkpoint just before Lakeview resturaunt, looked at sticker on sled and waved on. I've been riding for years and I think it depends on the wardens The fine was around $200 they said the next one be double. In my opion well worth the sound
racing900
Nov 17 2006, 06:34 AM
Most of these companies that sell cans shouldn't be,they are illegal in most states.Most are a sh#$tty design and dont make a gain in power.You feel fast because you sound fast.My sled has a set of hand built pipes that dump into a quality can that meets thesound standards,I have $900 tied up so i can ride a sled and not piss off a landowner.I am the president of my club and get the phone calls regarding loud sleds ,dirtbikes,and ATV's.Thanks to Rumble Pack and MBRP I have had to Kiss ass to a lot of landowners and confront knowing offenders to keep 30 miles of trail open.Out in the middle of nowhere let her sing just dont do it in town or near houses.
steved28
Nov 17 2006, 06:45 AM
QUOTE(hlhinc2000 @ Nov 16 2006, 08:48 PM)

Hey stevey I dont know about you but I OWN my house and the 8 acres it sits on. So just cause my profile says I'm only 25 means I can't be a land owner? :div20:
I didn't mean to imply that at all. I was just responding to a comment.
Bottom line is that the noise doesn't really bother ME so much, but it does bother some, which effects me, because I don't want to lose any more land I am able to ride on. So those of you who choose to break the law, run loud pipes (for no gain that I can see) directly effect my ability to ride. The only reason I can see that people would make a sled louder is to draw attention to themselves. But most of your fellow sledders are not only unimpressed, but probably think your a jerk for potentially ruining their land privilidges.
I don't know, it just seems to me that if you truly love the sport, then you wouldn't do things that put it in jeorpardy. Not just for yourself, but for the rest of us. It's not about older vs. younger, it's about reaching the point in your life when you realize it's not just about ME. Some will understand that at a very young age, some will never get it.
off the soapbox...
J45p3r
Nov 17 2006, 07:50 AM
QUOTE(RSracin05 @ Nov 17 2006, 12:59 AM)

still not as loud as harleys and i hear those at all hours of the day
Not a fair comparison because they aren't going to close the roads because of loud Harleys.
yz426
Nov 17 2006, 05:42 PM
Ok i guess this is what i need to know.. What is the law on aftermarket exhausts?
Snow Lizzard
Nov 17 2006, 06:17 PM
As a resident in the County and I have a MBRP can on my sled I have been through a few check points in my time (3 times last year) Not once did they question me about my exhuast system. Things could change though??? Just remember there is places to get on it and there are places not to...
J45p3r
Nov 17 2006, 06:19 PM
14. Snowmobile noise level limits. This subsection governs noise levels for snowmobiles.
A. Except as provided in section 13112, a person may not:
(1) Operate a snowmobile that exceeds the noise limits for that snowmobile established in paragraph B; or
(2) Modify a snowmobile in a manner that amplifies or otherwise increases total noise emission above that of the snowmobile as originally constructed, regardless of the date of manufacture.
B. The following noise levels are established:
(1) Every snowmobile manufactured after February 1, 1975, and offered for sale or sold in this State must be constructed to limit total vehicle noise to not more than 78 decibels of sound pressure level at 50 feet on the "A" scale, as measured by the SAE standards J-192;
(2) Snowmobiles manufactured after October 1, 1973, but on or before February 1, 1975, and offered for sale or sold in this State must be constructed to limit the total vehicle noise to not more than 82 decibels of sound pressure level at 50 feet on the "A" scale, as measured by the SAE standards J-192; and
(3) Snowmobiles manufactured on or before October 1, 1973 are not subject to a specific noise level, except that they may not be modified in violation of this subsection.
Basically, if you install a can and it raises the noise level by even 1db, it is illegal.
DMANNBLACK600X
Nov 17 2006, 09:26 PM
HPS on the doo doo 800 this year :beerchug: had it on the 600 too, stopped one time and told to put the stocker back on.........sorry about his luck, sold it :smilielol:
catrider 900
Nov 19 2006, 03:43 PM
me and a couple buddies got busted in the county last year around $200 fine :banghead: too bad cause they sound awesome
BRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP
blawat
Nov 19 2006, 03:54 PM
as far as what warrdens do is they can write a ticket for a modified exhaust. in wi i believe if you get caught 3 times they can take your sled. not worth pissing of the land owners closing trails and going slower. spend the money on clutcing or porting to acutually make the sled faster.
chainfeed
Nov 19 2006, 04:04 PM
I think they sound good but I'm not gonna take a chance at pissing people off and hurting the sport, so I run stock exhaust. Loud sleds get annoying on a long ride anyways.
HankScorpio
Nov 19 2006, 04:16 PM
Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
lucky1x
Nov 19 2006, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(HankScorpio @ Nov 19 2006, 05:16 PM)

Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
Get out of the way???? That old xc polaris cant get out of its own way. :smilielol: :frech32:
DMANNBLACK600X
Nov 19 2006, 06:04 PM
QUOTE(lucky1x @ Nov 19 2006, 07:01 PM)

Get out of the way???? That old xc polaris cant get out of its own way. :smilielol: :frech32:
haha, thats funny i don't care who you are :smilielol:
Bullfighter
Nov 19 2006, 06:10 PM
QUOTE(HankScorpio @ Nov 19 2006, 05:16 PM)

Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
What a dick head.
J45p3r
Nov 19 2006, 06:43 PM
:banghead:
Maine-iak
Nov 19 2006, 09:24 PM
QUOTE(Bullfighter @ Nov 19 2006, 07:10 PM)

What a dick head.
No, MASSHOLE, check his profile :frech32:
Kahlua
Nov 19 2006, 10:29 PM
All I'm going to tell you after deal with landowners all afternoon is...."Don't come up here with cans and pipes!"
You WILL be written up.... and it WILL hurt pretty bad in the wallet! Been instructed to have the game wardens stationed on piece of ground which so happens to run through his dooryard.... and stop ALL sleds with excessively loud exhaust until the public gets the message.
Chumslick
Nov 19 2006, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(Maine-iak @ Nov 19 2006, 10:24 PM)

No, MASSHOLE, check his profile :frech32:
What does him being from Massachusetts have to do with it?
02zr600country
Nov 20 2006, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(HankScorpio @ Nov 19 2006, 05:16 PM)

Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
I think you need a good redneck beating, BITCH!!
Ajak
Nov 20 2006, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(HankScorpio @ Nov 19 2006, 05:16 PM)

Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
QUOTE(Bullfighter @ Nov 19 2006, 07:10 PM)

What a dick head.
From someone who is not an old crow yet....you are a dip shit. :frech32:
With that attitude, I'll bet you are one disrespectful punk. You are the type of sledder that everyone loves to hate. :frech32: :frech32:
splat10
Nov 26 2006, 05:39 PM
one thing some clubs are doing here in NY is to offer to pay encon and state police to setup check points at population centers. They buy a $15 radio shack Sound Pressure Level meter to measure the decibles, have the law that states the threshold level and ticket every single sled that has loud exhaust. It's actually helping keep trails open that would otherwise be closed. Combine that with funding gates to (try) to keep out ATV's and we're starting to see a reduction in the miles lost every year / % of our efforts spent kissing landowner ass.
If you've ever been outside in the winter in farmland you can hear the punks coming from miles away. No wonder non-sledder have issues with our sport. It's the same reason so many people think bikers are all Hell's Angels and lawbreakers / troublemakers
qualifier
Nov 26 2006, 07:51 PM
You want more power, Buy a bigger engine ..................
MaineSled
Nov 28 2006, 06:26 AM
QUOTE(HankScorpio @ Nov 19 2006, 05:16 PM)

Everytime someone tries to get some advice around here you old crows chime in about of where hurting the sport by having exhaust and the land owner wahhhhhhhhhh! Stop whoring up the thread Go buy a fucking 4-stroke put put around and oh ya one more thing When you hear me comin GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY!
Its people like you that really fuck up things for everyone else,STAY IN MASS WITH THAT ATTITUDE DUDE. If you want to be a GUEST in Maine show some respect for it,DON'T turn it into another MASS.
extsp2
Nov 28 2006, 07:23 AM
pipe issue aside, age issue aside,
hank scorpio, if you're looking for people to "get the fuck out of the way" try running in sanctioned races where it's ok to ride like an ass clown......if you're looking for me to move over for you and you're coffee canned punk rocket - not so much - it's people like you that have that attitude that ruin it for the families. trying to take the girlfriend out for her first ride was terrifying for her because some punk NEEDED to pass her on a corner cause she wasn't going fast enough for him. i really enjoy her company and wanted her to get into sledding but that moron terrified her and she almost didn't go again. he almost ruined it for me, i like to ride with the guys, but the weekends with her are much needed as well. we taught her to use her mirrors and if she isn't comfortable with someone trying to pass her in a certain spot to not give him any room until a straight...........she's learned........but what if she refused, my life would be different because of a mental midget like you with that attitude..........if you try to move ME out of your way, your sled better be alot faster, and i'm not thinking it is........
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