mock up looked pretty good for the first dry fit

the xcr airbox was "right on the carbs, and over the steering post tightly.. htg pipes into stock can..
upside down Pro X 700/800 carb boots that will work awesome.. carbs are nice and level.. No interferience might need to make some attachment hardware changes on the bottom of the carb boots so the carbs seat in to the boots.. with the bolts the carbs are hindered a bit from seating fully in the boot.. something flatter than the typical carb bolts will work good.

I loosley fitted the oil tank that Phil sent me as a donation.. it might just work.. Phil :div20:

I noticed that I will have to use some a large jackshaft to helix spacers to get the 2ndary to align with the primary there has to be an inch to inch 1/2 space between the back of the helix and the bearing on the jackshaft..

any of you other edge triple guys find that??

there will be no problem with leaving enough space for shimming for helix swaps.. I just hope there is
enough of the jackshaft / key in the helix to take some punishment.. I have to measure that

I also found I probably wont be needing to modify my motor to chassis motor plate for my oil pump lever.
I dry fitted the oil pump and with the 1/2 plate I had made the lever has room to move freely.. with out hitting the motor plate.. although I may need to modify the middle motor mount at the front edge a bit but its a small amount..


now to duplicate mock up and double check everything again maybe even a 3rd time and then I'll get the motor/chassis plate marked and drilled for the motor case bolts to tigh it down..

NICE, I'm still in the dreaming stage although I have near everything.
How about using an xcr bearing spacer kit for the jackshaft?

Wheres the new pics.....wheres the new pics.......wheres the new pics

Roger, I'm not sure but I think maybe a jackshaft from an XCR will work for you. They have a spacer that sends the bearing further out.

Thanx Glenn I'll keep that in mind and I will know more after the 2nd and 3rd mock up..

I set the motor so I had only two thin spacers on the jackshaft I figured there would be less leverage on the motor mounts but I modded the stockers
I would like some pics I like the plate you built and the idea of the xcr box

The Pix are in process of uploading to the my web site.. check out the suspension as I think it came out pretty slick.. and the Mock up Page is of everything set with 11.5 ctr - ctr on the crankshaft to jackshaft.


EDGE-XCR

Looks Great, :div20: :beerchug: I was just about to give you shit for not posting pictures up. :beerchug:

I can't believe you had the rails coated and not the extensions.

I liked the seperation of the distinct colors..

It will all tigh in I have just the opposit just above that goin once build is complete

Tunnel extension Black with the polished Tunnel

Just to be different.. and to make un mistakeably mine.. :div20:

I didn't mean to offend you.

No Offense Taken :beerchug: It's all good

Roger, If you want I can ship out my xcr jackshaft to try. I just have to dig through all my extra parts.

Hey Glen.. think I'd like to take you up on te J/S offer..

where are you located? maybe I could ride down..

Roger, you got email. Also you will need a different key. The XCR jackshaft is cut deeper and the keys are not the same as the XC. I have one of those also for you.

Roger, those carb boots don't look offset in your pics. We're talking side to side offset like the regular 800 twin carb boots are offset to one side. Are they offset and i just don't see it, or aren't they offset? What was the reason you decided to go with the xcr airbox vs. the regular edge? BTW pics look great.

Correct these boots are not side to side off set.. these boots these boots are angle up from the lowest point.. and that can be seen in the pix.. and what I was thinkg was needed.. to keep the carbs level.. now if there are other boots that shift the carbs a bit to the pto side.. then I shure would like to see how they worked..

I could use what ever room they could provide for the air box / steering post alignment..

anyone got part #'s

Bad ass build man!! What are you doing for clutch, weights springs etc. Did you use the xcr clutches or xc clutches? Just out of curiosity, do you know what kind of numbers your pushing out of you engine? Keep up the good work, cant wait to see it done and in action!!!

Looking good Roger..

I run the HD XC800 Clutches on my XCR with Supertorquers 2 speed weights I am trying a new spring this season "goodwin Purle 140-360 with a few grams added to the wts,

I have a 2nd HD XC800 Clutch for the Edge-XCR but will most likley stay conventional til's its broken in 10-64's almond round 52/38x helix wrapped in a Polaris blue/orange spring geard at 23/40

With the Flannery Prep a true 180 - 185 hp



It's commin together ran into a jackshaft / bearing 2ndary clutch spacing issue.. but I am working that
out over the next week..

I am gona take a look at some side to side offset carb boots instead of the ones I have..
my dealer is GOOD to me as long as I have original packing I can return stuff with NO re-stocking fee
get a full credit and order what I need + a good guy discount to boot.. Thats the good part of having a GREAT relationship with a dealer..

been a regular 2 - 3 times a week for almost 20 years.. Kinda like going to a Cheers Pub Everyone know my name I know theres.. :beerchug: I kinda feel like Norm :beer:

What was the reason you had to shift over the left that much? Pipes....airbox? Maybe there all like that but can't recall hearing it before.

xcr airbox is causing the shift.. no doubtly..

the xcr 800 jackshaft that has the oubound bearing that will eat up the spacing.. the problem then becomes the bearing will be mated on the key way of the xc shaft ..

so I am gona mock up with the xcr jackshaft and outbound bearing an see what that gets me.. comparing my xcr shaft and bearing assembly this is probably where I need to be..

Roger, Jackshaft being shipped tomorrow. You owe me a beer.

Click to view attachment

atleast a beer!! :beer: :beerchug: :linemup:

Glenn.. Shaft was waiting for me at the door when I got in tonight !!!! :div20: Thanx Again..

:div20:

Quick update..

I picked up some 800 big block off set boots and they will not work. the do offsett the carbs enought but
put the carbs at a BAD angle almost looked like down draft carbs "kinda of at a 10 oclock angle" :banghead: back to the pro x 700/800 boots I had..

Jackshaft update

with the xc shaft and the location of the bearing with the motor placed in the chassis using the xcr airbox
I can get the clutches aligned fine along with the pipes I have.. like I mentioned previous there was
too much space beteeen the helix and the bearing housing and wiould create lots of undu stress on the shaft bearing to a point where the jack shaft would bend under load and it would eat belts..

with the xcr jackshaft.. I had to double up on the out bound spacer to get the bearing seated in the bearing housing correctly... looked like this would be the what it needed..extreemly strong.. the problem is the motor needed to be placed SO far left in the chassis pipes and airbox would not work. and I had 1 x 1/8 2ndary clutch spacer for adjustment

so my thought is how do I move the xc jackshaft bearing to use a single out bound bearing housing?
to reduce the space betewwn the bearing and the helix..

I would rather use the shorter xc jackshaft and outbound bearing housing Idea to provide added
strengnth and less bend to the jackshaft..

off to the machine shop for some ideas..

No offense Roger, but why not just use the edge airbox like most people do, and quit fighting with this?

No Offense Taken..
I am in no rush I have at least 2 1/2 months before we see the meat n tatters of the season..
if we do have good early conditions ive got my xcr to flog the crap outa :banana:

These mockups are all really just parts of the process..
part of this build is to see what will work and what wont and what I need to
do to make it work.. once all the parts fit right the assembly will be quick
in the mean time 3 more variables have been weeded out that wont work for this build anyway
I am hoping this experience will prove helpfull for others later..

It's getting there.. :div20:

:banana: Got the jackshaft bearing and space behind the clutch worked out from the prior mock up :banana: :banana: :banana: .. :banana:

1st let me say I was thought where the bearing is placed on the jackshaft
where different in size. But they are not.. the shaft stays the same diameter from the bearing mark on the
shaft to the key then the shaft is smooth out for the helix and key way machined..

at the key way the shaft gpt smooth amd is where the bearing got loose enough to slide off the shaft.

I was able to tap the bearing to the right on the shaft enough to use the xcr jackshaft outbound spacer and typical bearing holder housing fpr the bearing.. clutches are linged up 11.5 ctr and I have 3/8" worth of spacers behind the clutch

the new location of the bearing is at least a 10th of an inch before the key way.. so I have room before!!
and I have clutch alignment going forward..

So basically it's mocked up like I had it on the Mocked up pages of my web site..

Using the xcr air box pro x 700/800 carb boots with installed NEW vforce II's this time.. all fit good..

re-fitting of the pipes are next and I dont expect any issues as this is pretty much the same location as the mock up... :div20:

I should be on route to marking and drilling final motor mounting holes on the motor plate and finding room for the oil tank.. :div20:

Roger, get tired of this project and call it quits? Why no more pics or updates?

Hey Glenn in a wait state at the moment have some stuff at the machine shop.. Motor Plate for drilling and Carb Boots for Tapping.. They said they where a week out for turn around time.. Should here from them anyday now..

started buffing the tunnel though.. and with 4 other sleds to prep in the mean time.. I am busy..

getting there folks..

I have 2 more pieces to be machined and then I am goin after final assembly..

the jackshaft bearing stop will be machined out so I can use a locking collared bearing on the jackshaft.

I am cutting out a few extra pounds from 1/2" motor plate "trimming it down to only use 2 1" wide x 5" long by 1/2 thick pieces.. instaed of the full plate..

I decided to give the wave rotor and galfer brake pads a try..

I assembled and plumbed up the oil pump / lines

finished with the head covers Water tube and misc powdercoated part assembly

need to attach the Stator, Flywheel and pull starter/recoil

I am ready to install the suspension as soon as the jackshaft is back from the machine shop and the chaincase is assembled for the final time..

Tunnel is buffed and looking good.

Progress has been slow but with 60 degree days going in to December.. :banghead: Riden don't look good here for a December start Kinda tough to take but nice for workin in garage..

suspension is in but I am real close to running out of track adjustment ripsaw 136" with MMP rail extenders and 8" wheel's I might have 3/8's of an in left so I may endo up going 9" wheels to give me a bit more adjustment and would probably be easiest thing to swap out..

Chaincase is assembled with 23/40 gears reverse and modified chain tensioner..

Waiting on some plumbing supplies.. then I need to start on oil tank mounting fuel pump mounting
and misc belly pan heat shields.. and wrap up electrical.. electrical is close but I am finding some
wires I need to reasearch from the cdi and a coulpe from the wireharness..

Just ordered my 144 Mega Bite Studs "using 108" Double diggers, Red Holeshot skid plate and I have my eyes on a Avenger III to monitor things..

getting close... Pix to come..

UPDATED Progress Pix

thats purdy

Squidward howz you're project coming???

Sounds like you will turn the earth with those gears, better start working on strengthening your grip...LOL
Check this EGT out, my son went this way on his.
http://www.exhaustgas.com/ProductDetail.as...=&BasketID=
Looking good!!!

I'd post new pics from 20 minutes ago but the camera cord is MIA. I got the steering mostly done, which has been by far the biggest pain in the ass. I knew it wasnt going to be easy to keep the over-the-motor steering but this is just plain stupid.....when people said I was nuts for doing this project in the first place I just laughed. After the issues with the steering I seriously think my insanity level might be at the point of a straight jacket, padded walls, and docters in long white coats giving me pills.

Anyways I had been experimenting with bent steering posts, then tried going under the motor, then came back to going over because under definetly wasn't happening. Refused to put a Ujoint in the post and have it mounted to the engine like melonhead did on his (was real concerned about vibes in the bars) What I ended up having to do is move the engine back 1" and put a thinner spaer under the front mount, dropping the front down 3/16" or so. Then I had to strip the steering loop of its upper bracket and make a new one that goes further front and up a little more. That gave my steering post enough of an angle to sneak between the mag and center head. Oh yea, I'm getting the joy of making a whole new steering post too. I just gotta weld the lower mount for the post and the steering will friggin work. Then tweak on the pipes to accomodate the engine moving back....I had already spent a stupid amount of time tacking them together a few weeks ago. I'll be starting up my own tread sometime soon....containing a novel filled with knowledge of what not to do if you are so inclined (or insane???) to get a sled like mine. Hopefully those bloody knuckles, numerous burns and throbbing headaches won't be in total vain for just one sled. Ok, my mini-novel is done now.

Thats pretty slick....By looking at it I was thinking it was more of an economical EGT, but for $400 you can get a normal one that tells you real numbers. I do like the size though.

That's what I thought at first too, I'd rather have numbers to read, but after riding it, I like it way better than digital or needles on a dial. I reacts immediately to changes in temps, and the LED graph is so much faster to tell what is going on in each cylinder it is amazing. You just can't watch 3 sets of numbers, and decifer it that fast, IMHO.

Looking real good Roger.........the sled pics that is. :lol2:

Interesting on the stat housing. The original style had the bypass close off, or nearly closed off, when the stat opened. I wonder if the new way will bypass too much in the low snow conditions? What was your thoughts on doing it that way? I guess the nipple will regulate the bypass, do you have a restrictor in also?

I got no freaking clue has how it's gona work :frech32: I just hope it does.. it's got the thermostat in place.. water from the heads to the housing and back to bottle for re-circulation like the xcr is setup except the bottom was a hose that went back to the bottle.. once the stat open business as usual thru the exchangers.. so the smaller 1/2 tube has a 5/16th hole in the ctr and with 13lbs of preasure coolant has no choice and will be pushed out to the tube and back to the bottle..

if it dont work I can build another bottom part of the housing with a similar tube in a different place so it gets closed off with the stat.. :div20:

Thats a piece of the puzzle I really did not give any thought too :banghead: ahhh well what do you want from a network guy trying to build a sled :smilielol:

Well after wrestling with Mountain Machine Performance over the last 4 weeks for some rail extensions and trying to figure out what they could do for me to get me rail extensions for 8" wheels that had more track adjustment well they could not do shit for me except send my $$ back

I ended up going with the tracks usa rail extension kit..

well the rail kit arrived today and 3.5 hrs later suspension out had to regrind the powdercoated rails get them to fit .."Made me real happy to grind them I'll tell ya" I went back to stock wheels "I used 4" suspension is back in.. track is adjust 1/2 decent.. now it's time for studding the track..

I should be able to get the 108 studs in before the weekend is out and wrap up the tunnel extension and grab bar..

then the sled is off to cdb motor sports in Auburn NH for a custom oil tank a cdi bracket and a few misc heat shields and exhaust can brackets then it's time to light the candles..

bring that thing up to the county, Flannery still has my "spare" motor....will be going for my first ride in a few days.

It wont be ready for the 1st ride .. but thinking we are plannin a trip to Millinockett the 26 - 28th.. See how the Stars align..

fuckin 1st ride end of January.. WTF Is that..

Any updates on this hotrod?

I need a weekend away to remind myself why I am in this sport.. and hopefully it will light the fire under my ass again
to finish it up it's frustrating as hell no freaking snow in the forcast the end of January and we have to travel 5 hr's
for the 1st shake down run.. so the Millinocket trip I posted about for this weekend is a must and a needed trip as
it's been way to long in between rides and I can't wait

I really need this..

but . I have minor pieces to get finished a few heat shields and exhaust can brackets
to get fabricated and then I can light it up.. so I am making progress but running out of
gas so to speak..

I am going to pre mix it for this season and do the custom aluminum oil tank on the off season
so I can get it made with what I want and need..