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cmscat50
OK, I finally got this all figured out. There were a lot of questions on this topic last year and I never found any answers until I got my own sled and figured it out for myself.

First off tunnel protectors for the ripsaw have to be tall. The reason?? Well the ripsaw doesn't have solid lugs, it has soft teeth. When those soft teeth hit tunnel protectors they get smashed. So therefore we need a much taller protector with this sled than we needed with a sled with normal lugs that the protectors couldn't smash as much. The teeth in the ripsaw are about 3/8" tall. After that it's solid rubber. That means if we are running 1.325 studs with say just under 3/8" penetration we can still have studs hitting the tunnel with CAT 3/4" protectors. That's why guys with 1.450 studs are still getting contact. IMO you have to have 1" tall protectors even with the 1.325 studs.

Then there's the cat exchanger protector. It's too short IMO. I don't have a good solution for this. The center of the track besides having those very soft teeth that will smash also only has those teeth every 3rd lug. That makes it even easier to smash them and gouge up that rear exchanger. I'm just hoping the fact that mines a sno pro and I don't piss pound my stuff that I'll be safe. May need a taller set of rubber bottoming bumpers on my slide rails just to be safe?? There is NOT much clearance at all when bottomed.

So for protectors I have 3. The cat one that goes in the slot and one 1" tall protector over each row of windows.

So for studding I'm doint the outside belts. I HATE my firecat with only the inner belt. Once again I don't piss pound my stuff and spin on assfault and rocks so I don't tear / bend studs...ever. As long as we stay on the inner 1.25" of the belt we CANNOT hit the corner exchangers. There is one catch. We need to modify the little aluminum protector that goes over the rubber hose toward the rear exchanger. I'm just cutting mine and flipping them upside down. That way they still cover the hose 100%.

I'll take pictures when I get done, but this should work great. Good hooking up sled...no shredded tunnel...and hopefully no coolant punctures grinning-smiley-023.gif
FiredupF5
cmscat50 - another great post and thanks for "figuring" this out and posting it. :beerchug: I'll be studding mine in the next few weeks so any pics would be appreciated!! :div20:
jimmyo
Same as FiredupF5...Pic.s please.
Thanks.

Jimmy
FiredupF5
Chris - How's the studding going? Any problems? Any pictures?

Most importantly how did you make out hunting? :beerchug:
cmscat50
Studs are in, but I was shorted 13 nuts. Protectors are in. Gas tank isn't too bad to get out besides one bolt...grr. I didn't even unhook anything from the tank...just moved it around. I had to remove the tank to get rivets in the protectors FYI. I'll get some pics up ASAP as well as what I figure are the "safe" stud measurements on the outside belts.

Been seeing lots of bucks and some nice ones, but no monsters to shoot at.
nickels
QUOTE(cmscat50 @ Nov 2 2006, 02:24 PM) *
Studs are in, but I was shorted 13 nuts. Protectors are in. Gas tank isn't too bad to get out besides one bolt...grr. I didn't even unhook anything from the tank...just moved it around. I had to remove the tank to get rivets in the protectors FYI. I'll get some pics up ASAP as well as what I figure are the "safe" stud measurements on the outside belts.

Been seeing lots of bucks and some nice ones, but no monsters to shoot at.

Did you use the standard nuts that came with the studs? If so send me your address and I'll send you some.I have a couple hundred new ones laying around.
what?trail?
i have great interest in the studding issue? is it just an issue on early builds or all x-fires?
cmscat50
All....I'm done so posting pics ASAP...patiece please.
what?trail?
wtf? my dealer tells me if you run the proper length stud there are no issues -- i asked if i swapped to a 1.5 track and studded it would i have an issue he says no way ..... long as studs are proper length... says they never have even had any issues .... this whole issue makes me leary now......... dunno.gif
cmscat50
Guys that don't have protectors have scratched tunnels. I'll get these pics up ASAP!
FlyinRyanF7
cmscat50 good info thanks i posted about studding the Xfire w/ no response so thanks! this is helpful!
69 MOD
I'm studding too, have a friend with 1.4 Megabites in and he has light scratching in his tunnel.

I'm going to go with the double backer pattern (108 studs) I've never used double backers before are there any drawbacks?

The only one I can see would be pattern distribution ie: scratch lines.

MOD
what?trail?
QUOTE(cmscat50 @ Nov 9 2006, 08:53 AM) *
Guys that don't have protectors have scratched tunnels. I'll get these pics up ASAP!


that i can understand , but with the cat protector in the center will it be ok with 1.325 studs?
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