Looking for some opinions on these, I had always assumed they were just for women or kids to make driving safer (less darting). I was wondering if any of you more aggressive riders have tried them and if you liked them or not. They're all over in the parts magazines now so I figured they must be becoming more popular, what are the main pros & cons of dual runner carbides?

BUY THEM!!!!They are great for aggresive riders.I will never go back to the single again.I would recomend longer carbide surface though,You will pay more,but what a difference they make!!! :div20:

One of the downsides of the newer skis, with individual dual runners, is that they tend to wear out the plastic ski, in between the runners, towards the front, if used on abrasive trails, with a lot of gravel/sand on the surface.

The dual runners trap and direct gravel towards the plastic and then the gravel carries the weight of the sled on it and wears/chews up the plastic.

In these conditions a single runner ski will probably give more durability and longer life.

One of the cons are twice the cost to buy and replace.

I'm running either SLP SLT skis with single carbides , or stock skis with bergstrom skegs and 3/8" plastic "ski savers" between wearbar and ski.
Works great for me, tracks well and steers good.

I agree with ivar. Dual runners help with a uncurable darting issue, but they will comprimise cornering on hard pack or icey conditions.

A good set of traditional runners with 6 inces of 60 degree carbide and the Bergstrom ski savers will put the sled on rails. If darting still persists just take some ski pressure off.

I've run the duals the last couple of years and can't really think of any complaints. Maybe the cost, it's about a $100 for a pair.

I will continue to use them.

My 07 600 HO IQ CFI came with them on it.

The duals push through the corners but they run straight as an arrow with absolutely no darting. Great for UP riding railbeds sucks for tight twisty trails especially in loose snow or slush

I have the studboy deuce runners (6"). It would be nice if they were more agressive. They did eliminate a lot of darting. I must have hit something last season, I broke one of the carbides off the runner on the right ski. I will probably go back to a standard, more agressive bar.

Also something to keep in mind is that dual runners will cost you a little top speed with more drag. Studboy claims there design won't but I think there is a slight difference.

on the fusion, they were terrible (stock, and the woody's dually) they do eliminate darting, but turning is greatly reduced. I rather dart than plow into a tree because the skis just wash out.

Just my 2 cents though. I want new usi skis to correct both problems

I have them om my 2003 polaris 800 xc sp 8" dually woodys and they are awesome! :div20:

ExcursionPSD is exactly correct. My FST had 80% wear bars left and the skis are shot. (1700 miles) And of coarse Polaris said tuff. Wife rode with me all the time her sled has 7000+ (03 xcsp) and the ski's are like new.

If you are going to run dually's which I would not ride without, get the old style with the metal plate. Ski's will last forever.

Have accu stear(?) from polaris They are side by side and i did not like them on corners. Powder pros with a single now on order.

Get Bergstroms. The triple points are awesome and they don't dart around. The price is almost the same and you will get at least a couple seasons out of them if not more. You can ride as hard as you want. I have about 1800 miles on mine and they look broke in.

I rode on some dooleys one year and they still dart if you are behind a sled that has the same ski stance and dooleys.

smikes, I agree with you 100% dually's are not the thing for aggressive cornering. They are for us old farts who what to go 100 mph on rail beds and not dart around.

I am happy with them, but I do run 8" dually's = 16" of carbide on each ski.

toomanycars... If you had dually's and they darted you had something else going on. Dually's don't dart on a correctly aligned sled. PERIOD...

Had a set of Woody's Dually 6" carbides on my 01 XC. I personally, thought they were total
garbage. Yeah, they didn't dart, but they caught every rock in the trail, hung up on railroad
rails on crossings and my ramp on my trailer, and pushed like a bitch in the corners.

I threatened to take them off my father's 05 Classic
when we brought it home(dealer installed perc with the sale)but he wanted to try them.
He says they're o.k. by him. Of course, I don't think that sled has yet to be over 50 mph
niether.

I've been using a set of 4" Dooly's for the past couple of years and have no complaints. I've never had the front end wash out on me or loose control in any condition, and I've never had any darting problems or problems steering. I'm probably going to try a set of the Stud Boy Deuce Bars next time since I've heard good things about the Shaper bars.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't sharpen Dooley's on a bench top grinder with a green wheel because the other carbide is in the way.

I use single runner studboy shaper bars. Cornering is awesome, especially at speed. Before going out on the river or lakes I'll sharpen them up, usually can do this several times before they need to be replaced.

Have to agree with the others who say the dual setup is NOT required for aggressive riding/hard play in the twisties. I would add only that a properly set up sled IS. It must be understood that darting is simply a sled with sensitve steering - the sled doesn't care much if it's going straight or not. If you don't like the sensitive steering (assuming proper front end alignment) adjust it out - knowing it's going to cost you something in the corners......

... but a badly setup front end can dart and still not steer well.

e.g. my 99 xc700 with shocks in dire need of a rebuild - darted like crazy. Getting the shock rebuildt and the sled got back the "on rails" handling again.

I sell runners all day long, and I'll tell you what I run personally.

I run the Woody's Dooly's on my 500 trail sled, because it's a small trail sled and not a performance machine. It's great to cut down darting for a sled like that that I'm not leaning around every corner on.

On my XC700 I run a single 6" runner on the SLP SLT skis. No pushing through corners, which can happen a little with the 500 and dooly's. Sure it darts a little, but not in corners.

Just my $.02

Doug