I want to put headlight covers on my sled, but are they legal ( for daytime riding)?

Negitive.

as long as the covers are clear, your good to go.

Many peple have been ticketed for "Non-White" headlights. I think they are getting a little over the edge on this issue. But you know how the DNR is.

And how about the ten year study ( the one that used $220K in snowmobile trail funds)that found that yellow or blue headlight covers affected the breeding season for field mice, and this caused total chaos with all the oak tree's dying from seing lights other than white on sleds!!! and will cause total and complete deforestation in wisconsin. and it will trigger volcanos in Milwaukee & Madison to erupt killing thousands. Just becuase someone used a colored headlight cover!!! LMAO!!!

wow i didn't know that

I guess black ones are out of the question then

DO NOT USE THEM!!! You will only be harder to see coming at someone.

I know it's all about having a cool looking sled with sweet pipes at your age, but be safe out there.

I dont want to have to tell you the story of the fatal snowmobile accident I was at where the cause of the accident was primarily due to a headlight cover.

The laws clearly state that your headlights must emit a WHITE LIGHT.

alright, I'm just going to leave em alone then, and no, I do not like loud pipes, way to many trails have been closed near my house cuz of the "cool" people who think that loud pipes are cool.

Good man! Smart choice!

Smart man!!!

It seems like it is only our southern neighbors that feel it is their right to have the loudest sled on the trail. But for us people that live up in sled country. (And Rev, cuz he plans on retiring up here) only understand how loud pipes kill our sport.

As of yet, accessory lighting on sleds is still legal, they have some pretty cool LED & Neon kits that can be stuffed in the tunnel and put in place to shine onto the snow to illuminate around the sled. I would like them for the coolness factor, But I find it is better to blend into the crowd as much as possible to avoid undue harrassment from overzealous law enforcement types that like to write citations for laws that they think should exist.

You sound like a typical local, G2O. Its always the out of towners who are riding where they shouldnt and causing trouble.
Incase you cant detect my sarcasim, here ya go:

I spend just about the whole winter up in St Germain and lemmie tell ya, the locals raise just as much hell as anyone else, yet they always blame it on the "weekend warriors".

It's your story tell it the way you want.

Ok, if thats what you want to think. Yes there are a FEW dumb shits in my town that like the loud pipes. There was a REV sitting at the gas station, with the out of state stickers on the windshield. Not sure what he had on there, but it was loud as fuck, and of course he had to braaaaaaap it on the way too just to prove "something", what it is I don't know, funny thing is that he was doing like 30 on the trails as I flew by him( on my 440 fan :frech32: ) Recently two trails, both leading to my house, have been rerouted, and the new trails are shitty. Do I not want to ride from my house? I don't think so! It's so nice to be able to ride 50 yards to the trail, and I am not going to fuck it up with a loud pipe/can!

Not just loud pipes. You can add to that list riding when the trails arent yet open and riding wherever they want, whenever they want (ditches, powerlines, ect).

I dont know Octane, I see ALOT of out of state sleds in Lake Tom, St Germaine, Minacqua, etc.. with the louder pipes. Those Wisconsin DNR stickers for out of state lseds are pretty obvious IMO, and I see them on ALOT of loud sleds.

Im not calling you a liar, just saying I see things a little different.

I agree, Rev but some make it seem like all the troublemarkers are the out of towners or "weekend warriors".

I did not state anywhere in my post that local residents are complete angels. But due to peer pressure, and neighbors most people that live in sledding country seem to adhere to the laws a bit more than our southern neighbors.

I am not the one that came up with "F.I.B", it fits doesn't it?

Look at their miserable lives down there!!Almost No trails to ride, Cooped up in traffic 5 days a week (you've seen how they drive!) When they aren't sledding, they are tweaking their sleds with every new product they can get their hands on. it is all a big pissing match between them! who has got the loudest, fastest, most bad-ass sled!!

Then They get 2-2-1/2 days to ride, after 4-5 hours cooped up in a truck breathing each others farts, testerone dripping off the glass!! Spewing Bull-shit attitude at each other the whole way! they want to get the most seat time in that they can, they do not have neighbors to answer to. They come up here, see our relaxed laws (compared to theirs) and treat this area like it is their personal Wild,wild, west!!!
If I lived down in that hell-hole, i would probably be exactly the same!!! ( I did it for 7 years And I came back home to the northwoods!)

Maybe it is the "out-of State" sticker that just makes them stand out more! (if & when the decide to buy one)
They hit the trails and try to "One-up" each other all weekend long! Trash the place, and disappear back home with nobody to answer to, except the occasional DNR warden that catches them in the act!!

almost Every piece of trash I see thrown out of a car or truck window, the offending car has Blue & white plates on it! Explain that. I see residents toss trash too, but not nearly as much as the nut-cases from down there!!

There ya go, G20, you sound just like a local. Now all you need to do is start your own business and then go on the local news whining about all the money you are losing due to the lack of cold and snow and then drive off in your $50,000 Escalade.

What exactly do you mean by "sound like a Local"? I'm confused by that!
Since I am a resident of the northwoods! And yes if you were to ask If I live locally to the Minocqua area, I would need to answer with a "yes".
And yes we do own a business (4 different ones actually under two business names) And a large percentage of our income is from out-of-state residents that behave just like the ones I described.
I see it day after day. Just stating my observations.

Maybe Edgerton (or wherever you live) is not a huge tourist mecca like around here, and you just do not see it at the same level we "Locals" do on a daily basis.

(No escalades, But a good assortment of three 4WD-chevy's, a vintge Corvette, bass-boat, several sleds, 2 bikes, an old jeep cherokee, And a Bobcat loader.)

And no, we are not foolish enough to base a business that depends solely on,or is even affected by snowfall!


Octane, are you stating that the people from around the Chicago area behave no differently than permanent residents which you refer to as "Locals"? most everytime I see someone acting like an ass-hole on a sled, or riding with obnoxiously loud pipes, they either have that nice bright trail pass, or Illinois registration without the needed trail pass!!!

Are you defending their actions, are you an ex-fib? if so, I can understand you being upset by my observations of their stereotypical behavior.

How do you really feel? :smilielol:

The "Big Yellow" warning stickers on the windshields are too funny. I do get a kick out of the "wannabe's". Spend $10,000 on a machine, clutch it, 500 studs in the track, pipes, motor mods and then go back and forth on Lt. St. Germain Lake or Lake Minocqua racing and put maybe 300 miles a year on the sled. If people don't realize very soon that pipes and going off trail is killing our sport, we won't have a sport.

I understand the loud pipe issue, but to be honest, the trail is 450' from my bedroom and so is a bar, in the Winter my home has the windows closed, so I hear very little noise, and I have a 2000' track on the lake which guys race on sometimes till 2:00 AM, if I go outside I hear loud pipes, but little or none inside. Perhaps the areas you are near has more homes than forest, and maybe that's why some hear the pipes and sleds more, here it's thousands of acres of national forest.
I personally do not race around after dark, but I do own a sled with open stingers, and two with barely silenced pipes, no one has ever complained, especially the bar down the road, the ice track draws the sleds to the area. Dozens of guys on this sight can testify to that.

Hahaha....yeah right. Almost all of my neibors are from the state of Illinois and every holiday weekend I get to listen to them ride around on their minibikes and go-karts. You wont get any sympathy from me, I deal with it just as much as you do.




Thats exactly what Im saying. If anything, its the locals who act like its the, as you say, "wild west" where they can do whatever they want. You (and everyone else who lives up there) dont own the northwoods and you have no more or no less of a right to enjoy the natural beauty of that area than anyone else. However, you seem to think that you are doing us non-residents a favor by letting us into "your" northwoods.
G20, I went up that area with my parents all throughout my childhood, we used to stay at Lakeside Resort and Shiffman's (not sure about the spelling on that one) all the time. Now, as an adult, I still enjoy going up there to get away from the southern part of the state.
Dont try to BS me by saying that the locals are all so innocent and never break the rules. They do. Not only do the break the rules, they use the rulebook for toilet paper.


Nope, born and raised in Wisconsin. :div20:
If anyone is getting upset, its you.

Hey numb-nuts, Why don't you read this again!!!

Oh I read it, but that doesnt make it true.
You know, I show my father this thread the other day (he's a St Germain resident) and he laughed his head off.

Quite a few "locals" came from those "city" areas, so they are not locals even though they think they are. The "locals" are not innocent, BUT it's the attitude of the people on vacation that we should cater to their every wim and kiss their feet mentallity that really gets to the locals. My wife has had people cut her off in the Trigs/Walmart parking lots. She beeped at them and when they get out of their cars they tell her that she should be grateful that they are here and that they pay her salary. I have had it happen to myself as well.

I know why octane is defending the FIB's, he is not in the service industry like lakeland & me are!!

(your Still doing the I-F, Dock, & trailer thing? Right lakeland?)

Now I know why he does not see these people acting offensively. He just hears them terrorizing everything on their minibike and other toys they are not allowed to ride in ILL-ANNOY.

Defenitely one of my favorite sayings of theirs, "We pay your salary, without us trashing your town every weekend, you wouldn't even have a town, your lucky we spend our money here!"

My reply was: well, lets find out, quit coming here for the next ten years and see if we survive. I bet we do just fine!!"
That really tweaks their beaks!!!

I am still considering printing the bumper sticker that states "we don't care how you do it in Illinois"

:smilielol: Yeah right. Without the tourist industry the northwoods would die.

People are resourceful. The jobs that really pay well in this area are not in the tourism area. Service (tourism jobs) pay in the $6 to $7 dollar range. There are many issues in this area where tourism and seasonal home owners hurt us. We get screwed because we are a property rich area (Lake homes owned mostly by tourists) but income poor. That means we get little to no state aid for school funding. Last time I checked in our district we get about 11% and that gets chewed up with bussing costs. This in turn gets dropped back into the property tax owners laps. I'm not saying tourism is a bad thing, I even have some friends from "down below", but it's the attitude that gets to the people up here.

There are arrogant assholes on both sides of this issue, Ive owned a cottage in the Lakewood area for 30 yrs. dont expect or recieve any special treatment,consider it my second home. there certainly are people that do things when they come north that they would not do in their own back yard at home. and i can understand the locals attitude.however I cant tell you how many times over the years Ive heard a so called local say "here comes the friggin flat landers" that piss's me off,in alot of cases Ive own my place longer than they have been alive.

Back in my home town, same as FLY_HIGH, i do not know of 1 person right now that has an aftermarket can/pipe on there sled. Though, every single weekend i here sleds go down the lake, or at the gas station with a loud as hell sled. They could be locals very well, but i do not know. But, I have seen many sleds in the gas station that sound like the have no exhaust on them, and a lot of them do have out of state stickers. Just my own observations, take it for what its worth, im 18 and dont know anything.

G2O, do the bumper sticker you'll make millions!

Maybe then I could help "Save the Northwoods" because we wouldn't exist if the people from Illinois wouldn't spend their money here, right?

First off I get the one printed that says;

"Not everyone up here is on vacation!"

And then the one that says "Anyone but Gordon!"

There already copyrighted boys, so don't think you'll go stealing my idea's. LOL