sxrlar
Apr 3 2006, 07:13 PM
Just updated my snowcheck to include the Walker Evans air shocks on my RMK. Does anybody have any experience with these? How are the Walker shocks on the Dragon? Will it come with a pump like the fox floats? Thanks, Sxrlar.
sr_erick
Apr 4 2006, 09:12 AM
I've heard they aren't as adjustable as the fox floats but I really know nothing else about them. In fact, I only heard about them being available when Polaris released the new models.
barrysledxc
Apr 5 2006, 08:13 AM
Yu're just going to be a R&D guinea pig. It took Walker 5yrs to get their manufacturing and design right (we'll better) and I guarantee you they will not be the quality of the Fox floats.
Spiderman
Apr 5 2006, 10:25 AM
Really, should I change them off my snowcheck option then?
W.F.O.
Apr 5 2006, 11:44 AM
QUOTE(Spiderman @ Apr 5 2006, 10:25 AM)
Really, should I change them off my snowcheck option then?
I think I'd go with the fox untill theese new walkers get some r+d time
mike500
Apr 5 2006, 01:13 PM
QUOTE(sxrlar @ Apr 3 2006, 04:13 PM)
Just updated my snowcheck to include the Walker Evans air shocks on my RMK. Does anybody have any experience with these? How are the Walker shocks on the Dragon? Will it come with a pump like the fox floats? Thanks, Sxrlar.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.. they used a float style shock on the 2006 IQ 440 racer this year with good results. They've been testing these for quite some time. On top of this, the sled comes with a 4 year warranty which says something about its quality and any problems you may have will be accounted for under warranty.
fanatic
Apr 5 2006, 01:30 PM
Fox floats are an air charged shock, and the walkers have some oil and are gas charged with no spring. They actually are more adjustable than a Fox Float if you wanted to play around with valving and gas charge, plus you don't have to pump them up. Basicly just a different type of springless shock.
Krom
Apr 5 2006, 09:57 PM
QUOTE(fanatic @ Apr 5 2006, 02:30 PM)
Fox floats are an air charged shock, and the walkers have some oil and are gas charged with no spring. They actually are more adjustable than a Fox Float if you wanted to play around with valving and gas charge, plus you don't have to pump them up. Basicly just a different type of springless shock.
You couldn't more wrong about the fox float shock. It is a high pressure nitrogen charged shock, with internal floating piston, oil, piston,and valve stacks, (identical to all normal fox shocks) that uses an adjustable air chamber instead of a coil spring.
bogboypb
Apr 6 2006, 07:54 AM
Walker Air shocks have far more miles, years and research and development time on them than any Fox Float. Fox - IMO - you get more name than you get substance. Walker Evan's has been producing these Air type shocks for off-road truck racing applications for years... and if you've ever seen a Baja race... these trucks and suspensions are subjected to extreme abuse and temperature extremes. I've ridden both and feel the Walkers give up nothing and are superior on the big bump end of the spectrum, and when it comes to compliance in the stutter bumps are even more superior.
Fox Floats are unable to find a compromise between the two. You can make them compliant for the low amplitude-high frequency bumps (i.e. stutter) but then have a soft, spongy feel in the big rollers with inadequate rebound. Or you can tune to have a shock which is compliant in the high amplitude-low frequency bumps but are extremely harsh in the stutter and chop.
Just my opinion.
actionfigurejoe
Apr 6 2006, 09:36 AM
QUOTE(bogboypb @ Apr 6 2006, 08:54 AM)
Walker Air shocks have far more miles, years and research and development time on them than any Fox Float. Fox - IMO - you get more name than you get substance. Walker Evan's has been producing these Air type shocks for off-road truck racing applications for years... and if you've ever seen a Baja race... these trucks and suspensions are subjected to extreme abuse and temperature extremes. I've ridden both and feel the Walkers give up nothing and are superior on the big bump end of the spectrum, and when it comes to compliance in the stutter bumps are even more superior.
Fox Floats are unable to find a compromise between the two. You can make them compliant for the low amplitude-high frequency bumps (i.e. stutter) but then have a soft, spongy feel in the big rollers with inadequate rebound. Or you can tune to have a shock which is compliant in the high amplitude-low frequency bumps but are extremely harsh in the stutter and chop.
Just my opinion.
I'd agree. Past WE shocks have been nothing more than Fox knock offs. The needle style shock and new air shocks are really going to the heart of Walker Evans off road technology. Most here have never even seen the inside of a WE needle shock. They are very cool and work incredible well.
akpro
Apr 8 2006, 01:53 PM
I have the needle shock on the RTS on my 600 fusion.
BIG difference in ride quality, made a great handling sled even better.
& I have seen the shock inside out.
barrysledxc
Apr 14 2006, 07:28 PM
What we are talking here boys is a snowmobile knock off costing about $300 vs a custom off road shock costing $3000. And before you buy into the 4yr warranty you better read the fine print and the only way a shock will be covered is if you break it in two and if you do it will probably be from hitting something and it won't be covered anyway. I've rebuilt dozens of the '03 Walkers with the rear track reservoirs that were oblonged from the clamps and not one was warrantied after one year even on the two year warranty. And the list goes on.
700proxrider
Feb 6 2008, 07:37 PM
Does anyone have more info on the Walkers? basically i hear there good or they suck.
How about some details , why they are good or why they suck. Does anyone have any feedback on the rear skid shocks ? Are they adjustable ? Do i need to pump them up or recharge them ? Maintence ?
I bought front and rear skid shocks (really cheap) and just want some feedback before i try them.
timespentsearching
Feb 6 2008, 11:54 PM
QUOTE(700proxrider @ Feb 6 2008, 09:37 PM)

Does anyone have more info on the Walkers? basically i hear there good or they suck.
How about some details , why they are good or why they suck. Does anyone have any feedback on the rear skid shocks ? Are they adjustable ? Do i need to pump them up or recharge them ? Maintence ?
I bought front and rear skid shocks (really cheap) and just want some feedback before i try them.
they are not relaly adjustible shocks but tehy are good shocks. WE shocks in the past have had fiction problem, for the most part it is gone now. the new shocks are very good shock and worth the money.
700proxrider
Feb 13 2008, 08:39 PM
TSS,
do you have any experience on the trail with them ? I am thinking of using them on the rear skid of my 02 Edge/XCR800 conversion. i dont expect them to pound the moguls like my Prox, i just want a nice smooth ride thru the small stutter bumps. I've got the 50th anv RFX's up front with stacked springs (rides/handles great) a RFX clicker front track shock (out of an 01 prox) and the rear is a Fox clicker. Currently i can't get the sled to ride good in the stutters, the rear seems fine but i can tell there is something wrong in the front. I've adjusted the spring and clickers and nothing helps.
Anyways i'm debating in just putting in the PPS3 and stock front track shock (FOX) or try the WE airs i picked up. I'm just real afraid of the air since if something happens to one of the shocks i'm stuck on the side of the trail.
timespentsearching
Feb 13 2008, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(700proxrider @ Feb 13 2008, 10:39 PM)

TSS,
do you have any experience on the trail with them ? I am thinking of using them on the rear skid of my 02 Edge/XCR800 conversion. i dont expect them to pound the moguls like my Prox, i just want a nice smooth ride thru the small stutter bumps. I've got the 50th anv RFX's up front with stacked springs (rides/handles great) a RFX clicker front track shock (out of an 01 prox) and the rear is a Fox clicker. Currently i can't get the sled to ride good in the stutters, the rear seems fine but i can tell there is something wrong in the front. I've adjusted the spring and clickers and nothing helps.
Anyways i'm debating in just putting in the PPS3 and stock front track shock (FOX) or try the WE airs i picked up. I'm just real afraid of the air since if something happens to one of the shocks i'm stuck on the side of the trail.
i have some put not a ton. only ride time is on air center shock never persoanlly used the ski shocks. the rear track shock is just a regualr style shock not an air shock. id go ahead and put them one. they are a very good design and perform very very well. also they just nitro not air.
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