Well I purchased the Wisconsin trail maps for gps and I must say I am dissapointed. You can only plot routes on existing trails, not fireroads, or lakes, and it applies a shitload of waypoint. I set up a simple 100 mile route around a few lakes and it assigned 800 waypoints. I loaded it inot my Gpsmap60 and all it showed were the waypoints. I am still going to monkey with it but it is not real great. I am going to contact the maker. :banghead:

humm. thats a dissapointment.

mikesnowman, Thanks for the info!

Please keep us informed!

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If you want to plot tracks/trails try the Mapsource Beta version that just came out....now has track making/editing tools.

http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=1229

What I would really like to do is make a route and only transfer the trail line, not the waypoints. Any time you make a change in direction, there are a bunch of waypoints laid out. I can store 1000 but I dont need to. I know the trails I would just like to see where i am on them as I ride?

I'm not sure you will able to do this. I'm just now getting into this stuff, but I think waypoints are required in order to make a route. If you had auto-routing software, such as the latest Mapsource products, you could enter a start and finish location, and it would auto-create a route (via roads, not trails) between them...and then you'd have to manually edit the route line for what you really wanted to ride. I know that some/most of the trails in Mich UP are on county/secondary roads that are in softwares' map, so the calculated route shouldn't be that far off. Still, when you upload the route to your gps, you'll still have the waypoints in it.
I've been watching the posts in this forum (and others) for awhile now, trying to decide best way to accomplish this as well, and to me it looks like best bet is to download other peoples' tracks of the routes they rode, edit them via thrid-party apps like EasyGPS to create custom versions tailored to your liking, and then upload those tracks to the gps.

If anyone has better ideas/suggestions...I'm all ears.

So where can we get other people's tracks and routes, are there websites that host them? I'm all for sharing one's I create (once I have some created).

Ranger - Track sharing is one of the reasons this forum was created. So "we" could all share tracks. Read this post http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...howtopic=139335

It would be nice if we could keep them organized and post them in a common way so we all know what they are. :div20:

Right right. I took rws's advice and the trails for my UP trip this weekend I didn't find the rws or gdb files for, I painstaking drew in so I have a rough route anyway (just have to figure out how to do routes now in MapSource). Here's the Western UP file:

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The green tracks are routes I got from other people's posted tracks, the cyan ones are the ones I drew in by hand (MapSouce beta - what happens when that expires rws, I have to reinstall the other version of MapSource.?.).

I named all the tracks with the appropriate Trail Numbers.

EDIT: How do I get my routes to follow the tracks I've created (in MapSource)? I've created waypoints but that sets up routes as the crow flies...can I not have preset routes follow the tracks?? Thx.

OK, I tried loading these tracks in my 276C Plus and it will not load all of them, truncates them because there are too many. What am I missing here, you can only have 27 saved tracks.?. Should I have changed these tracks all to routes instead?? Are tracks only for recording your travel? Why do we not list routes then for each other to use?

EDIT - Ha, so I think I get it, you do use Routes for riding the trails and such. I though I could have all the tracks loaded so my GPS was like a snowmobile trail map for the whole Western U.P., but it doesn't quite work that way, does it.?. I have to set up routes for each different leg of my trip, and activate those as I want to use them. If I'm learning correctly here. I know I have a lot to learn, just trying to set up something functional for my first trip with the GPS here.

Your file above has 28 tracks...the 276c can only load 15 and with a max of 500 points per track or it will truncate. I edited your file down to 12 tracks by using the Track Join Tool and used the Track Properties Filter to reduce them to no larger than 500 points each. Track count could be reduced further with a little more time/effort...I got it to 12 in just a few minutes.

No need to make Routes that duplicate your tracks. Just upload the track file to GPS.

The Beta versions do expire, Garmin will either release a continuing Beta or a updated public release before expiration...just install that.

Load this file and see if this works for you.

Ok, I u/l tracks to puter, edited waypoint names, etc. Used s/w to erase some erroneous segments, rejoined into one track, d/l to unit (says successful), but I cannot find/see it on the unit!! What did I miss? I can create a route by hand, but like someone said, it's as the crow flies, and I want a 'trail map'. Help!!

Yama - what kind of GPSr do you have?

On the Garmins you go to the main menu, select TRACKS, it will list your tracks, then you select the track you want to view, then say Go to Map or Show on map.

I have a Garmin III Plus...old school. I loaded it, says was successful, but when I go to tracks, nothing there?? Also, the routes I do u/l look like lines, not dots, so they blend with the roads. Any way to change that? Kinda what makes tracks nice... since it's not color.

Hey, thanks, that's cool. Now it's like having trail maps loaded. I will make routes for each of our three day's rides, but having all the tracks loaded will be cool. [Hmm, thinking, I won't have much space for saving new tracks, will I....)

Actually, thinking about it, you're right, why have routes, I know where I'm going. Other than seeing how far to my next destination. If I make some waypoints at the major intersections and Towns etc., the GPS will tell me how far to next waypoint, etc, right.?. (That's why I was thinking routes, so I know how far until our destination for lunch, or gas, etc. Not that I won't know that otherwise, but it's a neat feature I wanted to utilize [to justify my purchase to myself! LOL].)