Here you go guys Marc asked me to post these for him, the classes and rules that will be held at the races at Ste.Annes this Jan 29/06.

Please note these MAY CHANGE as the race gets closer but for now this is it, for any other questions please call Marc at 204-422-5805. Also these are Ste.Annes rules along with some ISR and Ste. Annes race!

STOCK CLASSES (Rubber)

500, 600, 700, 800 and Open

STOCK CLASSES (Picked)

500, 600, 700, 800, and Open

STOCK RULES:

No aftermarket single/twin/triple pipes, or cans. No engine work period! Sled must have stock suspension, can be lowered 2in min travel. Clutching allowed, must be stock clutches though (no cutting). Must have stock air box (shelfs removed okay) but no filters!

No electronic fuel control systems ie. Boondockers or TPI controllers.

OEM (as it came from the factory) tracks and tunnel lengths allowed (ex. if your sled is a M7 151 with a 2inch paddle you can run it in the stock class) Exception is if your OEM sled came with a 1 inch you can go up to 1.25in maximum.

IMPROVED STOCK CLASSES (Rubber or Picked)

500, 600, 700, 800 and Open

IMPROVED STOCK RULES:

Must be stock cc bore. Must be stock OEM chassis and motor (0.020in. over allowed). Skid changes allowed. 1/2 tracks allowed, or OEM tracks allowed.

MOD CLASSES

600, 700, 800 and Open

MOD RULES:

Allowed up to 0.020in. over in each class. Aftermarket Turbo and or nitros sled(s) can run only in the Mod Open class. Anything else goes.

4 STROKE SLEDS:

Yamaha 4 cylinder 1000CC (Apex, RX1's) run in the 700cc class.
Yamaha 3 cylinder 1000CC (Vector, etc.) run in the 600cc class.
Cat 660 (OEM) Turbo runs in the 600cc class.
Polaris FST (OEM) Turbo runs in the 700cc class
Polaris Fusion 700 (755CC) runs in the 800cc class

GENERAL RULES:

- Tether cords MANDATORY, you must have one or you DON'T run.
- Single pipe and triple pipe classes have been combined.
- 500ft snow packed track, photo finish.
- You red light your OUT, no re-runs.
- NO power brooms, rakes or shovels. The lane you get is the lane you run.
- Clean out of the sleds at the line will be allowed BUT only on a shieled track stand. No one person holding up the rear bumper for clean out will be allowed. There will be lots of stands there just borrow one if you don't have one.

TECH:

- In the STOCK (rubber/picked) classes each 1st place (per class) sled will be teched for overbore, and other engine work! This will be done by a qualified independent person with a scissor bore gauge/digital mic, boroscope, etc. You fail and your out, no refunds.

- In the IMPROVED classes, over bore to be checked.

- In the MOD classes only over bore to be checked.

NOTE: Marc is considering running a 900cc class but did not think there would be enough entries. If you want the 900cc class or have any other comments please call Marc.

Hope this helps, see you at the races!

THanks for the post! Nice to know this well before hand as there are a few rules that differ from other events.

Can't Wait!! :div20:

:div20: the Minolta will be clicking!

Rematch........X-fire vrs F7



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What time is registration and what is the race start time ?
....and how much $$ per class ?

Here is what I know, You must CALL in to register prior to race day absolutely NO registrations on the Sunday. Phoning Marc (204.422.5805) the sooner the better would be great.

- $10 per driver for insurance
- $10 per class
- $10 Bib deposit, money returned when you hand in bib at the end of the day. If you have your own bib please give the number to Marc when you are registering!
- $5 entry fee per person to get into the track.

Basically registration and fees the same as the last few years. Test lane to open around 10:30am, races to hopefully start around 12:00pm or so! :beerchug:

Great rules! :div20:

you guys have fun i am out i got no sled, hey track hope you got lots of batterys should be a good time.

I spoke with Marc and he wasn't 100% sure how he was going to rule this one so I would like to hear what you guys think. '03 xc 700 completely stock engine with the exception of an SLP air box kit and a Tempa-FLow. I'm sure I'll be nothing more than a donation even in the stock 700 rubber class so I don't want to waste my time if I will be bumped to improved because of these two things.

Thanks, Rob.

Uh No,You don't have a stock air box.If they let this go it will just keep going.

STOCK RULES:

No aftermarket single/twin/triple pipes, or cans. No engine work period! Sled must have stock suspension, can be lowered 2in min travel. Clutching allowed, must be stock clutches though (no cutting)."Must have stock air box" (shelfs removed okay) but no filters!

No electronic fuel control systems ie. Boondockers or TPI controllers.

IMo the tempa flow is fine. It would be no different than running Doo DPM or a pressure regulator for Cat's EFI.
The SLP air box mod though I am unsure about. Are you tyalking about the air horn from SLP ? The rules as originaly stated above said you must have the stock air box but you can remove air box shelves etc. If it's just the air horn I would say you are fine. If it's an aftermarket air box I would say then that is different.
Anyone else ?

You guys are just as bad as the Fastest Street Car guys.

lol

Ya, but the street car guys tell you when they are cheating......... :beer:

Put your old air box on and jet like everyone else has to, like GRNF7 said, where do you stop, you let one guy get away with it, then what do you do with the next guy ,

Hey Canadian Doo, wonder if ole Lurch is gonna come out??

I can't comment on that old stuff,i don't want to get banned again. :banghead:
:no_bashing:

IMO, I would say no to your air box, I believe the rules were intended for STOCK air boxes only, (No SLP kits, D&D power Breathers, etc) with a shelf or horn(s) removed only, but Marc will have to make that call! As far as Tempa Flow, Vari Flow, Dial-a-Jet, etc. I would say that these are okay to use, just the electronic types as stated before.

But like I say Marc will make the final call!!!

Rotax are you going to pay us a visit for the race? :beerchug:

How's your F9 coming along,i see all your dialog with BMP is very interesting. :cn:
To bad you can't run it in stock class..lol.. :doh:

Not sure if that was a smart-ass remark or not! Decided no F9 this year waiting till next year, sold F8 kit in September and running a stock 2006 F7 this year!

I guess this is why there will be TECH this year, my sled will be stock and can be checked anytime anywhere. :beerchug:

I'm thinking about it, the next three races out here have been cancelled, there is no snow out here at all. Heading out west for some mountain riding sounds better with this warm weather.

Thanks for the replies, SLP air horn kit is the stock air box gutted with a bigger opening on top (you can see it in my avatar). Guess I'm out then. Marc told me He wanted to stick to ISR rules. He did not agree with me that they allow complete removal of air box as long as they are replaced with commercially available filters and no redesigned RAM air boxes. There is some grey area here but what ram air means to me is having the intake facing forward. The above was from the ISR update list I believe for '04/'05.

Don't want to be a pain in the ass, Have fun guys.

I was not trying to be a smart ass at all!
It sure doesn't take much to get you going i see?

I was just pointing out all the dialog i have read with you & BMP,it was really interesting that's all.You must know them really well?I like that sticker on the windshield of your sled. :div20:
What happens if you get beat by someone?Do you tell them i just have the sticker and nothing else done to my sled,it's stock?
Can you buy those stickers individually or do you have to buy something else from them to get a Bikeman sticker?

Not pissed at all! I have know Erich for years and he is a good friend. Yes, that sticker does ask alot of questions sometimes (actually all the time) since I had his F8 kit before, but like I said I sold the kit and with living in Calgary now I don't have as much time to play around anymore. That's why the new 2006 F7 stocker this year, just want to get on it and ride it and not worry about anything!

You can get those stickers from Bikeman separately.

GRNF7, are you gonna come on up and join us for a day of racing in Ste Annes?
Nice to have some new blood on the circuit.

[COLOR=orange] im going.

Nope,im not going to make it :banghead:
I have other plans,maybe next year :beerchug:

Im sure they will have enough fast Green F7'S to go around. :div20:

Does anyone know if the pipe mod from Bikeman is noticeable to the naked eye?
My Evil Twin would know,can you tell by measurement of the pipe?
Thanks for any info........ :beerchug:

Why don't you bring your Green F7 and race it, the more sleds the better there will be lots of good competition for you. You obivously know about me and have read all my posts and have something against me and the Bikeman thing or are implying something! Why should I only know about the BMP pipe mod, do a search and find out for yourself.

You can bet most F7 riders know about the pipe mods and whatever and I will be the first to pull off my pipe shield if I win. You can also bet on any winning F6 or F7 will be checked for this as well.
:bigfinger:

Like said before i can't make it.I know you from your posts that's all.
I don't have anything against you or BMP.
I thought with all your BMP knowledge you would be the guy to ask,sorry i guess i was wrong.I never thought you would be so uptight about a little info if you talk to the guys from BMP all the time.Im not implying anything,you are the one who stated you would be running an F9 this year,i just asked how it was coming.How would i know if you bought the kit or not. As far as the pipe mod,not every F7 rider knows all the details about the pipe.I'll get my info else where,thanks

Thanks for all your help,not sure why i got the finger though
Great attitude :div20:

Sounds like someone knows too much about what someone has done. Like they say,"Once a cheater.........." Just remember one more important saying, " Takes one to know one"
It's too bad that last year done in a lot of innocent racers that wanted to get into the fun of what racing is suppose to be. Last year showed everyone the biggest cheaters spend the most money and most of them are looked at a little different now. :no_bashing: Intended

Who and what the hell are you talking about????
Who are you calling a cheater? My Evil Twin has always said he did not use his F8 in any stock classes for the last 2 years.Also i have yet to race my sled.
Have you been :drunk: a little to much MPH???Who are you reffering to here because you sound like a fool

Hey GRNf7,i think MPH thinks everyone cheats.Here's a post about me from a long time ago.


So let's here some others if you know so much MPH?

how come you allow the apex with 150hp to run in the 700 stock class? shouldnt it run in the 700 triple class or up to justify the hp?

It really has nothing to do with the horsepower. Maybe it should but basically they want the 4 strokers to fit into the proper class based off of horsepower to weight ratio.

No separate triple pipe or single pipe classes, they are combined!

What Rob said sounds fair. Keep them in their own class.

ISR has the apex in the 600 class.Power to weight ratio is pretty relevant in a 500' drag. Having said that I'll still bet the 700 class goes Apex 1, 2 and 3 if there are three there.

:burp:

Yes the ISR has the Apex in the 600 class. They had the RX 1 in the same class. Now the Apex, according to Yammie guys, has dropped a ton of weight and gained 10 poines as well. Yet they still put it in the 600 class. :doh:

Why so defensive Pete?
I see some people never change :frech32:

Nothing wrong with sharing some info is there?

I'll take that bet...$20 bucks and I'll Pm you my mailing address...

Easy money track

I was planning on heading out to the races in St Anne's to be a spectature. When ,times and where abouts, viewing fees for adults and kids???..thank you,Luc

This is what I dont get. Sure...they may have somewhat the same power:weight ratio..but isn't that calculated in hp:lbs? Now that being said...dosn't a 4-stoke make more torque than a 2-stoke...and when the sled comes off the line and pulls for that XXX amount of distance...isn't cause of torque? I'm no expert at this but thats how I am seeing it.

The more spectators the better. Racing starts at noon and it's $5 per person. Kids are usually free but call and ask to make sure. Racing is right in Ste. Anne's. Just follow the signs.

Allright track perhaps I'm being a little over zealous on that one. (consider it bullsh1t called, lol.) A well dialed Apex is certainly going to be a contender. Remember the black RX1 in riverton last winter. He red lit in the semis but actually beat that contraversial "F7" that took first in one heat.

TTT For ya, even though there is two topics about the same thing,oh ya
Did some research on the pipe mod,i like when i got to page 8 of the BMP catalogue.Your old sled looks good in that picture.Where was that picture taken?Your sled is under Boondocker Nitrous Systems. :div20: Did they pay you to have your sled in the catalogue? Or do you just get a deal on parts because you know them? :beerchug: