Just returned from a long weekend in NEK. What a joke and a waste of time and money. No grooming ,trails were in ass poor shape. Was there and never saw a groomer, Why? Because they didn't roll at all. The season is short enough and you scumbags decide you're not going to groom. I had heard that there was no snow. Bullshit!!! There was enough snow to make big bumps where there is bumps there is snow and it was cold enough. I don't know what the deal is there were hundreds of people up there trying to get some riding in and you pieces of crap couldn't even make an effort? There was washouts that could have been dragged in and covered instead I saw people with their new shit all busted up because of the crap trails. I could see if there was an effort made but you did not even try and alot of people are out alot of time and money. Other places made an attempt and alot of Canaans trails were pretty good. I don't know if you're trying to conserve fuel but you know what it's hitting us all just get off your dead asses and do what we all pay the insane TMA prices for. Maine has some of the best riding in the Northeast for almost half the cost and have never seen ass trails like this. Let's do the math

550 miles by truck at 14 miles to the gallon at 2.69per=roughly 106 dollars.
4 TMA's at 115 each= 460 dollars
Lodging for 3 nights at 65 per=195
Gas in sleds=200 dollars
2 Overpriced 031 belts from Arctic Cat...170 dollars
Meals= roughly 250 dollars
Booze well nevermind that.

You scumbags owe me 1400.00 and that's just our group. We probably pumped a quarter of a million into your area this weekend..Thanx alot Brighton will keep that in mind when your sucking around for best trails...Dirtbags.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

dude take apill. Maybe you should have researched the conditions before going. I dont think any of the clubs claimed the riding was good. The only decent riding anywhere right now is Northern Maine or Quebec.

Your missing the point they had snow and it could have been decent it was all around Brighton so if you don't know what your talking about shut the hell up. Oh I forgot you didn't hear the SnowPhone message saying it was fair to good and it could have been with a little effort. :frech32: :frech32:

Dude, I ride IP all the time and I wouldn't bother with these conditions. Sometimes it is worth it to bite the bullet and drive further for good trails. You don't see me riding local this week. You can't fight Mother Nature.

Rob you know what Im talking about I know you do. I have been riding IP for 10 years and there was potential there with a little effort. There was snow I've seen Brighton do amazing things with less snow than they have now. That is my only point. If you went out at all you saw what Canaan was able to do with what they had.

Obviously, you are as frustrated as the rest of us but you are dead wrong in going after the Brighton Club, or any other to cover up your error in judgement. There were more than enough information, prior to your leaving for IP, on this site and and all of the other sites focused on Norterm New England to tell you what to expect. You made the decision, you assume the responsibility. Your fault, plain and simple.

dude, i trailered through IP this weekend and the trails from the road looked terrible, just not enough snow. i rode around the canadian boarder and down to bloomfield on saturday, and the trails were terrible. dirt, rocks and open waterbars. i didn't even ride sunday or today, just went looking for moose sheds.

there is not enough to groom. some trails were very good, many were not. they NEED SNOW. AND I ALREADY POSTED THIS ON THURSDAY.

Let me know IF and WHEN they send you your money.

Might as well send GOD a copy, as well.

:bigfinger: Bullshit!!! EFFORT!! You bashing dummies..

Go to Maine. Do not waste your time here in Vermont. We have enough ass holes that do not appreciateall the hard work that people do for our enjoyment.. If you can not watch the weather an see how much rain that we have got maybe you should stay home. How much time have you spent here helping clear trails and supporting the local clubs???? I for one hope with your shit attitude you do not come back............................. F... YOU.

You're an idiot just like the rest of these simple minded dicks. I know what these people do I said EFFORT not sure how to make it any clearer dummy.

My guess is you have never pulled a groomer,have no clue about how much snow it takes,what temperature to groom at,water content of snow,repair costs of grooming with poor snow conditions and all the other variables.We all have days when trails are not as good as we'd like,but there is no guarrantee of conditions.If you have all this knowledge,I stand corrected!

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How bads the damage probably nothing but Ice and Dirt. Better start scrambling for reservations in Maine. Im starting to see a pattern developing in NEK.

Are you stupid or what. This is your post and you knew how bad the conditions were. Dumb Ass you still came. I am F...... Glad you lost your money .. Prick. Stay home. I hope everyone looks at your past post . They can see your nothing but a asshole.

How are your trails in Connecticut ... :banana:

:zzz:

Sucks to be wrong.. :div20:

Put some miles on in the last 2 weeks and there just isn't enaough snow for the groomers to push into the low spots yet... It's close, but we need another foot of accumulation first.

There were a couple trails where the groomers were trying to shave the tops down and push snow into the low spots and damn they f'd the trails up so bad that it just isn't worth it to drop the plows yet.... My 2c.

I heard Maine is very nice riding right now....it would be a shame to lose you, but we'll be ok. Or better yet, just ride in CT.

Dude, next time you come up go to Derby, on Drift dusters trails... we have them groomed. Plus, everytime i run into a group of flatlanders in IP they are lost because of the crappy junction signs... I really dont know why IP is, quote, "the best place to ride"...

I have a camp in Norton, you did not see me anywhere near IP. unless they want to have their equipment laid up for weeks, its crazy to groom. groom what??? Y'all come back now, ya hear?

:beer: :beer: :beer: prozac boy :beer: :beer: need i say more

he realy didnt expect good trails after all that rain , and at the last end of school vaca did he, Ive been riding 20 yrs , ive never ridden that weekend even when there was a shitload of snow, too many people for them not to be beat. Watch he will respond with , "there wasnt that many people" of course not , they knew there was no fucking snow!

Thank you for your invest in Vermont :div20: Please tell me where in the last week or so there has been any encouraging post in the Vermont Trail Conditions of HCS stating there is fair to good riding??? It is your own fault. :frech32: Don't blame those that work so hard so you can ride.

The real sad thing about all this is......you will be back :bigfinger:

Please stay in CT with your attitude....holy christ, maybe you should change your dosage of prozac becuase it has really skewed your perception of reality.

BTW...don't cry like a little bitch becuase people are responding to your stupid ass post....what did you expect with a post like that. douche bag!!!

Prozac boy .....what an A hole!
I hope you guys in the NEK don't think everyone from CT thinks like this guy. What hell else were you going to do this weekend. If you are going to complian about the money then trade that F7 in for an inner tube. :tease:

Remember you can't put a price on a good time! :beerchug:

Prozac- Stay the F*#K out of Vermont! :finger_red: Its called early season riding dips*@t! I guess in all the years that you've ridden in the NEK its always been perfect right? I guess your not capable of getting on your computer and checking out all the websites that will inform you of the conditions! You need to think before you let your fingers do the walking on that keyboard of yours! Hope to NEVER see you up here..... SCUMBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess the only thing better then a busted up sled from open water holes, is a busted up groomer!! :drunk: I was in the NEK this weekend too, and there was definitely not enough snow to fix all the problems. There were some good trails, but from where the groomers have to come from, it ain't worth it. A busted up sled may cost a couple hundred bucks to fix, but a groomer stuck in open brook with a busted drag $$$$$$!!!


Attn: Any early season groomer repairs, please send bill to CT attn: Prozac Boy!

Mike

Makes me yearn for the days in the 60's when there were NOT any "groomed" sled trails.
Stop your yappin and join a club.

And do me a favor "STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MAINE"

Whoa prozac boy take an extra dose of your name, maybe 2. I hope the rest of Vermont doesn't think everyone in CT is an A****le like you. Do us all a favor and take your lower lip pull it over your head and swallow.

PS have fun in Maine we really won't miss you.

Hey Prozac Boy,

Your comments remind me of a bumper sticker that said "WELCOME TO VERMONT, NOW YOU CAN LEAVE". Maybe they were thinking of you?

Have fun in Maine.

tonyvt

I see by your user name you must have skipped a few! How much brush did you clear off the trails this year? How many bridges did you fix this summer? How many trees did you cut out of the trails this year. No one in any Vt clubs makes an effort is that what your saying? Maybe someone in the club thought it would not be a good idea to go busting up thier $50,000 grommer on not enough snow or maybe you will just buy them a new one next time. Go back on your Meds. man!!!

Guy, you've been riding for 16 years and you haven't figured out there are other places than IP to ride from? What were you expecting given the amount of rain and the date? I can't fault the BSC for keeping their groomers home, they are in it for the long haul and as soon as it snows and things calm down they will be out. Cannan has a lot more elevation on average, this gives them more favorable working conditions. Other areas of the NEK have less traffic, this is where I would have been this weekend had I ventured out. Sleddin ain't cheap, quit yer bitchin. DT

this from my earlier post on thursday... need we say more?

...so case CLOSED. he had more then fair warning before coming up.

btw... link is here: http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/inde...howtopic=121168

Funny thing is the locals know to avoid IP, never understood why people start from there. Hammerd trails, drunks, hot doggers etc.

well said. i doubt most down country riders come up in the summer/fall to help with trail maintance, until they do we should just disreguad asshats such as prozac boy. we ignore them they go away.

-Ben

well that is pretty conclusive. :cn:

I've seen this kind of thing forever. People trying to force their will onto Mother Nature. Guys, the weather is the weather, YOU can't change it. What you CAN change is where you go. I NEVER make firm plans for a trip until just a few days in advance, so that I can alter the destination according to the weather. To fly in the face of bad weather and trail reports is just plain dumb in my opinion.

Sorry ProzacBoy but you are 100% wrong on this one. :frech32:

I'm now wiping coffee off my monitor...I clicked on the "Complaints Department" just as I took a sip.

I'm Wrong??? Well here's the trail report for today and well judge for yourself where does it say stay home? Im not talking about the few miles into town Im talking about trails in the woods. Everyone around them had groomed and things were good. Judge for yourself.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:58 am Post subject: Tuesday, January 3rd, 2006

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We are still reporting that the logging roads are in good to very good condition. Trails leaving town through the lumber yard are fair to good with some icing on the corners. Some water bars still remain open in the typical bad areas. We are doing our best at getting them to freeze up and mother nature is helping us out with the colder temperatures.

The trails leaving town through the state beach are in good condition, leading you right up to the logging roads which are in good to very good condition. Most other trails have varying conditions most of which is fair to good, however, there are those typical areas which are in poor condition and in need of snow. They are all passable if you ride with caution.

The groomers will be out doing their best to smooth them up and hopefully the long range forecast is correct and will be good to us. They are predicting snow for Thursday with snow showers on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

We are as anxious to run a full groomer schedule as you are for us to do it. Again if you ride with caution, there is some great riding out there and as always ride within the designated areas which are flagged and we urge you to stay off all bodies of water.


Groomers are going out nothing has changed since the weekend perhaps a couple of inches of powder.

LOL :smilielol: I was wondering when someone would comment on that :lol2: :lol2:

Well that just goes to show you that HCS trail reports are better, and that doesn't surprise me either. I always take first hand reports over "published" anyday. That's the whole idea behind the expanded trail report section in this forum. :cn:

So maybe I shouldn't have ripped however if you get a trail report from the Club itself you should be able to go with that. Everyday people have different opinions on what's good and what's not good. All these tunnel vision bashing dicks just want to bandwagon fry someone. I don't get up north to do trail stuff but I give in all those jars everywhere I go. I buy my sleds in Vermont I buy all my stuff from Kingdom Cat even though I can find it cheaper on the net. So I don't deserve the flatlander, asshat whatever other non imaginitive crap. And I never said that the clubs don't do a good job. As a matter of fact I said that everywhere around there was good. So read the post before you get all your flannel shirts in an uproar.

Bottom line is there should be a decision-maker for your trip. And whoever that is should gather all the trail reports from all sources, look at the weather and make a decision as to where and when to go. And if that person makes a wrong decision it is his responcibility to take blame for it. Sure, you can bitch and moan, but you could have had a better trip if you had paid more attention to the details. You have to learn from experiences like this. We've all had them.

I want to ride SOOOOOO BAAAAADLY ! But I know better especially after doing my homework on this excellent site. (thanks Rob !) I have had many early season nightmare rides and I am "starting" to learn. COME ON SNOW WE ARE ALL GOIN NUTS !!!! :augen41:

Why complain??? I've been riding my land and friends land since Thanksgiving. Went out Christmas morning and rode about 150 miles, conditions were fair to good, then the rain came and the Trails were actually closed the day after Christmas, but I still saw people riding. I don't blame them spending all that money, for what...to end up staying at the bar and drinking heavily.

The season's only been open for 2 weeks. This year is 100 times better than last year.

Every year is the same if you want to ride early season conditions plan on riding your sled like a dirt bike. Getting all muddy, skies banging off rocks, slamming water bar and beating your sled bit.

I passed so many inexperanced riders off there sleds testing the water bars??? I don't stop... I go by nice and slow and hopefully teach them something by watching me. Then when I'm taking my butt break groups asking me questions on trail conditions my answer is always the same. Take the good with the bad.

No one should ever complain about early riding conditions! They should expect the worse and enjoy it.

I was wondering how the conditions are in New Jerse :smilielol: y :div20:

Buddy...
We don't need YOUR oos money, or attitude. Sell your sleds and spend your weekends running the malls in CT

It's been a bad start to the season for almost all of us get over it. You can't control Mother Nature she's a bitch.

Hey there pretty good. I just got 3" of snow this morning in Mahwah, nj. Com'on down you can stay at my place.

I just returned from Island Pond and well,it is what is.Between Saturday and Sunday I managed to put on 273 miles.My father has been riding up there since tuesday and he gave me a good idea how trails the would be when I joined him for the weekend.I was going whether it was good,fair or poor because I was anxious to try my new sled.The Canaan area had good snow cover and with last few miles of trail going into town were covered with snirt.Other trails were worse than others but it's early season riding.Trail 106 was smooth and very fast,a part of 114 that connects to powerline had some major waterholes and if one was not prepared to stop suddenly there would have been a wreck!This weekend you really had to use caution and not hammer your sled from corner to corner.And yes my sled has a little bit of Vermont mud on her but,I have seen worse conditions i.e-Late spring riding.We did bump into Dave Paige at the Chez Pigeon on Sunday.He basically told us what we had already known and that is Brighton will not groom until they get more snow.The drags would get beat up pretty bad if they were to drop them down.

Prozac,


Do your homework. or do the following:

1 Sell your sled

2 Stop telling people you live in ct.

3 Stay away from the NEK

4 STOP WHINING!!!