Buddy...
We don't need YOUR oos money, or attitude.  Sell your sleds and spend your weekends running the malls in CT

It's been a bad start to the season for almost all of us get over it. You can't control Mother Nature she's a bitch.

I just returned from Island Pond and well,it is what is.Between Saturday and Sunday I managed to put on 273 miles.My father has been riding up there since tuesday and he gave me a good idea how trails the  would be when I joined him for the weekend.I was going whether it was good,fair  or poor because I was anxious to try my new sled.The Canaan area had good snow cover and with last few miles of trail going into town  were covered with snirt.Other trails were worse than others but it's early season riding.Trail 106 was smooth and very fast,a part of 114 that connects to powerline had some major waterholes and if one was not prepared to stop suddenly there would have been a wreck!This weekend  you really had to use caution and not hammer your sled from corner to corner.And yes my sled has a little bit of Vermont mud on her but,I have seen worse conditions i.e-Late spring riding.We did bump into Dave Paige at the Chez Pigeon on Sunday.He basically told us what we had already known and that is Brighton will not groom until they get more snow.The drags would get beat up pretty bad if they were to drop them down.

Prozac,
Do your homework.  or do the following:

1  Sell your sled

2 Stop telling people you live in ct.

3 Stay away from the NEK

4 STOP WHINING!!!

Prozac,
Do your homework.  or do the following:

1  Sell your sled

2 Stop telling people you live in ct.

3 Stay away from the NEK



4 STOP WHINING!!!

Brilliant !!!!

First things first - I am in NO WAY agreeing with Prozac Boy.  I can understand his frustration but I also know that this is a very uncertain sport and there are no guarantees, to say the least.

I've read all the posts and there is one thing that puzzles me...

IF they are grooming now as their latest club report says, what is the difference between now and over the weekend? They didn't get any more snow, did they?

On several occasions, I have seen clubs do very limited grooming (both in VT and Maine) on Friday's and over the weekend only to see them go out in full force on Monday or Tuesday.  It's almost like they are catering more to the locals that can ride mid-week.

I think this is one of the questions that Prozac Boy is trying to get answered (along with why were other clubs in the area grooming?)

Once again, just because I'm from CT, don't flame me.  Just thinking out loud here.

PS - I love riding in Vermont!  From Woodford to IP and everything in between!

:beerchug:

First things first - I am in NO WAY agreeing with Prozac Boy.  I can understand his frustration but I also know that this is a very uncertain sport and there are no guarantees, to say the least.

I've read all the posts and there is one thing that puzzles me...

IF they are grooming now as their latest club report says, what is the difference between now and over the weekend? They didn't get any more snow, did they?

On several occasions, I have seen clubs do very limited grooming (both in VT and Maine) on Friday's and over the weekend only to see them go out in full force on Monday or Tuesday.  It's almost like they are catering more to the locals that can ride mid-week.

I think this is one of the questions that Prozac Boy is trying to get answered (along with why were other clubs in the area grooming?)

Once again, just because I'm from CT, don't flame me.  Just thinking out loud here.

PS - I love riding in Vermont!  From Woodford to IP and everything in between!

:beerchug:

Prozac Boy,

I am ashamed to admit that I even live in the same state as you. With your attitude is no wonder why Vermont natives call us all flat-landers. Club members do the best they can with what they have, instead of bitching why don't you get up there and help since you think you can do a better job!  If you have really have been riding out of IP for so many years like you stated, you should know by now what to expect when you arrived. It's EARLY yet! Riding seldom gets good until mid-January. I was in IP Wednesday through Friday and I saw groomers rolling Wednesday and Thursday trying to get things flat before the rain came in. Ever hear of the weather report? I called my wife here in CT and she even told me it was going to rain Thursday night. YOU HAVE KNOWONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF!!!!!!!
Takes everyones advise, sell your sled and take up polo fagot!!!!! :bigfinger:

Dude, next time you come up go to Derby, on Drift dusters trails... we have them groomed. Plus, everytime i run into a group of flatlanders in IP they are lost because of the crappy junction signs... I really dont know why IP is, quote, "the best place to ride"...

Kills me to see how easy it is to get these flannel shirt wearing, double wide living, maple syrup making, farmers in an uproar

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And here is the trail report from last Friday afternoon:

[size=1]"Mother nature wasn't very good to us again yesterday. We had a mild day with light rain showers throughout the day. Temperatures turned colder during the night and we are currently receiving light snow showers.

For those of you that want to ride this weekend, we are reporting that the trails leaving town through the lumber yard are in poor to fair condition with some open water bars. Trails leaving town through the state beach area are fair to good. Snow is thin with some icing in the corners. Logging roads would be your best chance of riding and reporting that those are in good condition with about an inch of new snow.

Mountain trails are a mix of anything from poor to fair to good. Watch for open water bars. Again we suggest the best riding is in the mountains on all the old logging roads and that they are in good riding condition.

Please use extreme caution, stay off all bodies of water and ride within the flagged areas only."

The report previous to this was last Tuesday, which while more positive, was followed by several days of above freezing temperatures and rain, especially Thursday when there was over 1/2 an inch. 

Did you even check a weather forecast or any of the other reports here on HCS that  indicated that the riding was deteriorating?

Hard to see how the Brighton club did anything that would "lead you to believe shit is good."

if the brighton club is saying tehy are grooming when there is not enough snow to, and saying trails are great when they are not, then i agree that is completely wrong and unethical. that should not be done, period. however:
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carhartt, sorells and dickies, thank you. your local syrup producer, also.
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You're right my bad shouldn't have gone that route. My apologies to all those who were offended by that. It wasn't meant to be taken to heart. I stand by my opinion about Brighton though like it or not. Why can't you all just disagree without the friggin lynching though makes people get on the defensive and start attacking back and that's counter productive. What did you all put out an all call to come to the Vermont forum to light me up? It's all good I can take it...   :tease: 

And they are the same trails as today and everything is supposed to be fair to good. What's the point?

So maybe I shouldn't have ripped however if you get a trail report from the Club itself you should be able to go with that. Everyday people have different opinions on what's good and what's not good. All these tunnel vision bashing dicks just want to bandwagon fry someone. I don't get up north to do trail stuff but I give in all those jars everywhere I go. I buy my sleds in Vermont I buy all my stuff from Kingdom Cat even though I can find it cheaper on the net. So I don't deserve the flatlander, asshat whatever other non imaginitive crap. And I never said that the clubs don't do a good job. As a matter of fact I said that everywhere around there was good. So read the post before you get all your flannel shirts in an uproar. 

You're right my bad shouldn't have gone that route. My apologies to all those who were offended by that. It wasn't meant to be taken to heart. I stand by my opinion about Brighton though like it or not. Why can't you all just disagree without the friggin lynching though makes people get on the defensive and start attacking back and that's counter productive. What did you all put out an all call to come to the Vermont forum to light me up? So for the last few years I come on here and Praise Brighton for the amazing job they do and it gets no action but if you say anything negative you get fried? Interesting I'll have to keep that in mind. It's all good I can take it...   :tease: 

You ARE a flatlander.  There's just no getting around that my boy.  If you are in doubt, just look at the plates on your rig. I suggest you learn to behave and keep your mouth shut.
Hey...I got an idea...why don't you tell me what you drive and when you will be in IP next, and I'll make it a point to show you show "flannel shirt" hospitality!!!!

You ARE a flatlander.  There's just no getting around that my boy.  If you are in doubt, just look at the plates on your rig. I suggest you learn to behave and keep your mouth shut.
Hey...I got an idea...why don't you tell me what you drive and when you will be in IP next, and I'll make it a point to show you show "flannel shirt" hospitality!!!!

ajm1bam,

Am I still a flatlander?
:beerchug: -Mike

According to the locals "if you wanna stay in that hell hole ............. Yep, you must be a  flatlander!" Welcome to the club Mike! :smilielol:    :drunk:  :div20:

ajm1bam,

I think your going a little far here. Let me ask you this? If you where to see my rig WITH Connecticut plates running up 91 would you call me a flatlander? I guess is yes. What if I told you I was born and raised in VT but now live in CT? Am I still a flatlander? . There are plenty of good people that come from all different parts of the country, not just the state of Vermont. Sure there are also allot of assholes that come from all parts of the country including VT. Maybe you should not be so quick to judge people by the plates they have on their rig.
:beerchug: -Mike

Dude, next time you come up go to Derby, on Drift dusters trails... we have them groomed. Plus, everytime i run into a group of flatlanders in IP they are lost because of the crappy junction signs... I really dont know why IP is, quote, "the best place to ride"...

550 miles by truck at 14 miles to the gallon at 2.69per=roughly 106 dollars.
4 TMA's at 115 each= 460 dollars
Lodging for 3 nights at 65 per=195
Gas in sleds=200 dollars
2 Overpriced 031 belts from Arctic Cat...170 dollars
Meals= roughly 250 dollars

Making yourself sound like a complete a$$hole...PRICELESS!!! :banana:

Thanks for stopping in ... Y'all come back now ya hear

I am not bashing any clubs they all try there best.. However i do have aproblem with IP and dont think i will be going there anytime soon. that fucking train that blocks the track there is a fucking scam if i ever saw one that was the last straw for me we were staying at the Avalon last year just over the the tracks it was late and we were tired and hungry and that fucking idiot parks the train blocking the tracks one group of people went around the lumber yard and got pinched by about 3 cops waiting for them tickets were over 300.00 a piece that was it for me sorry!

I am not bashing any clubs they all try there best.. However i do have aproblem with IP and dont think i will be going there anytime soon. that fucking train that blocks the track there is a fucking scam if i ever saw one that was the last straw for me we were staying at the Avalon last year just over the the tracks it was late and we were tired and hungry and that fucking idiot parks the train blocking the tracks one group of people went around the lumber yard and got pinched by about 3 cops waiting for them tickets were over 300.00 a piece that was it for me sorry!

Yea that things a pisser when you're low on gas. Few years back to go around the train was no big deal now you have to go way out of the way. Just figure if it's Saturday night there's a pretty good chance it's going to be there. And yea the ticket thing sux but Im into dickhead Teddy for a few hundred bucks. He hates "Flatlanders" as well.

I am not bashing any clubs they all try there best.. However i do have aproblem with IP and dont think i will be going there anytime soon. that fucking train that blocks the track there is a fucking scam if i ever saw one that was the last straw for me we were staying at the Avalon last year just over the the tracks it was late and we were tired and hungry and that fucking idiot parks the train blocking the tracks one group of people went around the lumber yard and got pinched by about 3 cops waiting for them tickets were over 300.00 a piece that was it for me sorry!

Yea that things a pisser when you're low on gas. Few years back to go around the train was no big deal now you have to go way out of the way. Just figure if it's Saturday night there's a pretty good chance it's going to be there. And yea the ticket thing sux but Im into dickhead Teddy for a few hundred bucks. He hates "Flatlanders" as well.

And yea the ticket thing sux but Im into dickhead Teddy for a few hundred bucks. He hates "Flatlanders" as well.

Teddy doesn't hate just flatlanders,he is a ticket writing machine to everyone!As far as the train blocking incident last year,that was just wrong but it was state police involved with that deal.