Full Version: Running Rough?
Well I am still waiting for my back ordered gas tank and a few goodies to come in at the dealer, so in the mean time I have been tinkering with the suspension. After I got it back together, we had a couple inches of snow so I thought I would take it for a spin. For some reason it dosen't want to start. It took me 25 pulls to get it running, then it backfired a few times and stalled. I changed the plugs and thought everthing was ok, I went for a ride and it started bogging really bad and hesitating again. I put some fresh gas in it and ran it again. It seemed to help so I changed the plugs again and it ran fine (almost) very little hesitation. I shut it off, let it cool for about an hour and tried to start it. It took four pulls. I thought maybe it is ok now. I picked up the back end so the track was off the ground and ran it. It kept getting worse and now if I pin the throtle, It will stall (with it off the ground) I am out of plugs right now but I don't want to keep putting new ones in and wasting money. My dealer said to wait untill the tank comes in and then he will look at it. It had been getting hard to start at the end of last season but not this bad. I didn't fog it down this year because it has been at the dealer most of the summer for updates. I did put stabilizer in the gas. Any Idea's to what it could be?
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Does it flash any codes with check engine light? Not sure that anyone but your dealer could help you out. Who do you have for a dealer out that way? Not to far from me any was just wondering.
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QUOTE(xc8 @ Nov 29 2005, 05:59 PM)
Does it flash any codes with check engine light? Not sure that anyone but your dealer could help you out. Who do you have for a dealer out that way? Not to far from me any was just wondering.
Had to check out your post to admire that woman on the bottom.
Had to check out your post to admire that woman on the bottom.
No check engine light. I bought it through Coopers Sales and Service in waterport. They're no longer a Polairs dealer but I'm good friends with them so Coop is helping me out :div20: Their just busy right now and my stuff hasn't come in yet. So I was hoping to do some troubleshooting in the meantime.
I am betting you got an EGT probe on its way out, The check engine light will not make you aware of this fault unless the engine is run over 5K rpm for 2 minutes or more. I had an EGT probe take a crap on the first night on my sled. It did almost exactly what you are describing. Trailered back on its maiden voyage!! Hows that for a confident feeling for your $9,000.00 purchase?
Then, when it got back to the dealer, it ran like crap, smelled awful rich, puked & farted several times (Sounds like an ex-girlfriend) but the C-E light wouldn't come on for them to diagnose. I had to run across a lake and back to trigger it. I guess the ECM doesn't hold a fault code memory for these problems, It should, but I doubt there is a battery backup system in the unit!!
I found later that it does take over 2 minutes with a constant rpm of 5,000 or more to trigger the light, it will give you a series of 5 flashes and repeat twice every couple of minutes.
yes your plugs will look like crap, because the egt is part of the several inputs to tell the ECM what to do, The ECM will richen-up the mixture and retard the timing as a self defense mechanism to save the engine from a meltdown.
Even though these sleds are completely controlled by a closed loop engine management system, they are not bulletproof as some less educated people have found out last year. They would fire the sled up and bang the throttle to the bars and cold-sieze the engine.
So, please let'em warm up, you got a temp. gauge at your fingertips, I never took mine off the stand until it was at least 121 degrees, then it was light on the throttle til it got up to 126 degrees, Mine never would get much warmer than 130 unless I was running real hardpack but ducking into fresh to keep the hyfax from melting.
Then, when it got back to the dealer, it ran like crap, smelled awful rich, puked & farted several times (Sounds like an ex-girlfriend) but the C-E light wouldn't come on for them to diagnose. I had to run across a lake and back to trigger it. I guess the ECM doesn't hold a fault code memory for these problems, It should, but I doubt there is a battery backup system in the unit!!
I found later that it does take over 2 minutes with a constant rpm of 5,000 or more to trigger the light, it will give you a series of 5 flashes and repeat twice every couple of minutes.
yes your plugs will look like crap, because the egt is part of the several inputs to tell the ECM what to do, The ECM will richen-up the mixture and retard the timing as a self defense mechanism to save the engine from a meltdown.
Even though these sleds are completely controlled by a closed loop engine management system, they are not bulletproof as some less educated people have found out last year. They would fire the sled up and bang the throttle to the bars and cold-sieze the engine.
So, please let'em warm up, you got a temp. gauge at your fingertips, I never took mine off the stand until it was at least 121 degrees, then it was light on the throttle til it got up to 126 degrees, Mine never would get much warmer than 130 unless I was running real hardpack but ducking into fresh to keep the hyfax from melting.
my egt probe went bad also check engine flassed 5 time but it still ran fine changed the probe.
QUOTE(Gettin2Old @ Nov 29 2005, 06:41 PM)
I am betting you got an EGT probe on its way out, The check engine light will not make you aware of this fault unless the engine is run over 5K rpm for 2 minutes or more. I had an EGT probe take a crap on the first night on my sled. It did almost exactly what you are describing. Trailered back on its maiden voyage!! Hows that for a confident feeling for your $9,000.00 purchase?
Then, when it got back to the dealer, it ran like crap, smelled awful rich, puked & farted several times (Sounds like an ex-girlfriend) but the C-E light wouldn't come on for them to diagnose. I had to run across a lake and back to trigger it. I guess the ECM doesn't hold a fault code memory for these problems, It should, but I doubt there is a battery backup system in the unit!!
I found later that it does take over 2 minutes with a constant rpm of 5,000 or more to trigger the light, it will give you a series of 5 flashes and repeat twice every couple of minutes.
yes your plugs will look like crap, because the egt is part of the several inputs to tell the ECM what to do, The ECM will richen-up the mixture and retard the timing as a self defense mechanism to save the engine from a meltdown.
Even though these sleds are completely controlled by a closed loop engine management system, they are not bulletproof as some less educated people have found out last year. They would fire the sled up and bang the throttle to the bars and cold-sieze the engine.
So, please let'em warm up, you got a temp. gauge at your fingertips, I never took mine off the stand until it was at least 121 degrees, then it was light on the throttle til it got up to 126 degrees, Mine never would get much warmer than 130 unless I was running real hardpack but ducking into fresh to keep the hyfax from melting.
Then, when it got back to the dealer, it ran like crap, smelled awful rich, puked & farted several times (Sounds like an ex-girlfriend) but the C-E light wouldn't come on for them to diagnose. I had to run across a lake and back to trigger it. I guess the ECM doesn't hold a fault code memory for these problems, It should, but I doubt there is a battery backup system in the unit!!
I found later that it does take over 2 minutes with a constant rpm of 5,000 or more to trigger the light, it will give you a series of 5 flashes and repeat twice every couple of minutes.
yes your plugs will look like crap, because the egt is part of the several inputs to tell the ECM what to do, The ECM will richen-up the mixture and retard the timing as a self defense mechanism to save the engine from a meltdown.
Even though these sleds are completely controlled by a closed loop engine management system, they are not bulletproof as some less educated people have found out last year. They would fire the sled up and bang the throttle to the bars and cold-sieze the engine.
So, please let'em warm up, you got a temp. gauge at your fingertips, I never took mine off the stand until it was at least 121 degrees, then it was light on the throttle til it got up to 126 degrees, Mine never would get much warmer than 130 unless I was running real hardpack but ducking into fresh to keep the hyfax from melting.
If it doesn't throw a code, would it still show up on the computer diagnostics if that was the problem.
I would not wait for the dealer, I would perform my own compression test to confirm that both cylinders were on the same page, then I would check the plugs to see if the plugs were showing an equal color. The engine may have gone into a protection code to protect the engine if it feels air, heat, or gas may be a problem. I would be all over this at this time of the season. :div20:
One of my freind have same as ur with his 05 Fusion. It was faults by throttle. I dont know how to say this... Just check if ur throttle thumb is lose or not. If it is loose. It can cause it to have hard time to start and run like crap. It might need ajdust. Maybe one of person who work on ur sled, he doing this wrong.
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