Anybody notice the very steep track angle on the IQ racer in the magazine pics?

I wonder if that would scrub speed and deep snow capabilitie's? If you look at Cat and Doo they are alot flatter.

What do you guys make of it?

I hope it KICKS some major @$$ in racing this year

What is the "IQ" built for again?

.X, right?

How concerned are .x guys with lake racing?

How concerned are .x guys with carving a remote bowl, or side-hilling a mountain face?

"purpose-built," riiiiighhht?

I would guess they did that to put more track on the ground, as last year it was difficult to make it hook up really well off the line. The front of the track was staying off the snow no matter what you did, even with the limiters let out all the way. The front track shock would not extend anymore to let the front drop down.

Would anyone, besides myself, want one of these IQ chasis with the 600HO in it? I'm not interested in the consumer chasis with the 9,7, or 6. Maybe a FST if they could get 200hp out of it.

I'd like one, but I'd keep it pretty much as sold with a few comfort tweaks... I definitely would not use one as my "primary trail-sled."

IMO, I would have it as a toy to bang around nearby the cabin and local trails... What's the point in having a racer chassis if you're going to use it on the trail full-time??? They weren't designed for trail use and IMO modding them to do so only proves one thing.....

WANNABE!!!


..... now form an "L" with your index finger and thumb, raise it up to your forehead and look in the mirror.

they made the angle steeper to get more track on the ground for better holeshots. last year the agle dragged back so far that they had hardly anything on the ground, so the race teams told them to fix it and they did.

Ask and you shall recieve a answer :div20:

I have a ProXR & for my riding style its a great trail sled. Any sled rides nice on flat trails, but when they're beat up there is a big difference.

Or you want a sled that can handle the abuse the 440 race sleds can take.

IMO, I would have it as a toy to bang around nearby the cabin and local trails... What's the point in having a racer chassis if you're going to use it on the trail full-time??? They weren't designed for trail use and IMO modding them to do so only proves one thing.....

WANNABE!!!


..... now form an "L" with your index finger and thumb, raise it up to your forehead and look in the mirror.

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How old are you?? Act like it. Polaris doesn't make a sled that I would be happy with. Maybe you're not smart enough to build the sled that you want, so just go buy it. It's easier that way. In the mean time, leave those of us alone who are, and smile as we blow buy you on the trail. To each there own, and if all you know how to do is bash, then keep your mouth shut!!

Here in lies one of the reasons Polaris is now #2. A lot of guys realize that Polaris has a better chassis for aggressive riders yet won't market it. Instead they offer the Fusion 600 HO with its adjustable handlebars, the knee smacking counsol, shorter suspension travel, heavier weight and lower bump bashing performance.

I've been saying for a year, if Polaris would offer a consumer version of the IQ 440 chassis I'd be all over it, and still they haven't.

I own a 440, they are the best chassis for hardcore riding. What Polaris needs is a larger engine, bigger tank and a few refinements and you have the perfect sled. If someone converts one they are not a loser. They obviously have more talent, imagination and skill then you do, Fyousion.

I also would be all over a more racer type fusion sled. The 600 HO rocks but I want something more race calibrated like the 04 XR 800 is. Personally I think that SR Erick has built the ultimate sled and I cant wait to hear how he likes it.
It is an IQ chassis with the new 600 ho motor in it. Should rock and roll.........
TR

Obviously I struck a cord with a few wannabes

Proof? I called no one in particular a wannabe, yet I've been personally slammed as unimaginative, untalented, and unintelligent by a few wannabes. In reality it appears they seem to support the above qualities themselves in their response.

Hey, in all honesty I don't care what you do... If you want to dork around town emulating Blair Morgan, go right ahead if that's what makes you happy, I'm not here to stop you. So don't get all bent out of shape because I express my opinion that you look like a wannabe fag

My point is this...

Why would you "detune" a race sled for trail use?

Why not "tune" a trail sled for trail performance?

Oh wait.... Don't tell me, I know the answer to this one!

It's because a race chassis makes you look like a WANNABE. While the trail sled makes you look like who you really are, an average everyday snowmobiler!

It's all good... I'm glad you wannabes are out there, otherwise I'd have nobody to poke fun at while oot-n-aboot!

Obviously you're an idiot!!

Who said anything about detuning the sled?? Most people are putting in bigger motors than what is in the sled to begin with.

If you had ANY sense of imagination, you would be able to build the sled the way that you want. Just because someone buys a race sled doesn't make them a wannabe.

Some people would rather have a sled that is more racer ergoed than a production sled. So that mskes us wannabes? You're about as narrow minded as they come. Grow up and act 37 instead of 10. Why bust on people because of what they ride? Are you jealous????? So if someone buys an Acrtic Cat sno-pro, that makes them a wannabe?? Or a Rev X that's built just like their race sled??
Come on!!! Give me a break. Go back in your little shell and clam up!!!!!!!!!

its ok to be scared to ride faster than the average trailrider who would nt even think about pulling over to jump somthing that looks like alot of fun ,but please dont be jealous of the ones who are nt :div20:

easy fellows :celebrating: , snow is almost here, I was just asking a simple question. :celebrating:

Yep swapping a 440 motor with a 600 H.O........... detuning huh? Just how are people detuning race sleds for trail use (with the exception of making them safe for pump gas)......... please enlighten me ole wise one. I know what your problem was you got your ass handed to you by someone on a 440 didnt you. I had a 01 pro x race sled that was awsome in the ditches and i could hit things as hard as i wanted and never once bottomed out. The guy raced it and the only change i made was add longer wear rods. Funnest sled i ever rode. Now my 03 pro x 700 production sled on the other hand cant take the same abuse and is noticibly heavier. So just cause you are someone who likes to trot around taking your sweet time watching the birds and wistleing ole suzana in your helmet doesnt mean everyone else is like that.

By the way i love it when people like you have to bring out the FAG word to try and get their point across ................... really shows your level of maturity and intelect :div20:

I have modified both my XCR & XR. But to buy a 440 IQ(which I can get), then a 600HO motor, then modify that motor, pipes(biggy), gas tank, lights, oil resevoir & such, it just gets a little crazy to go to all that trouble IMO. A 600HO IQ requires only a modded motor, pipes, & air intake. The XR makes a great trail sled. All sleds ride good on flat trails. Its a blast to run on beat up trails with the XR. It doesn't mean you have to drive out of control or at 100mph down the trail. Do I like to catch some air once & a while...sure, but it doesn't mean I do it all day long or endanger anyone else while doing it. I do not buy a sled for what it looks like, but for how it functions & then to improve upon that. I would also buy a FST Switchback with 200hp if they would make one of those.

Yeah what he said!!!!!!!
I would like an IQ myself even thinking about getting one, not for cruising trails long distance, but for going out and playing around and to do some high speed local trail riding and for when the trails get beat up real bad. Out.

I abhor pompass asses like you talking down to people, obviously (back at you)
you did not read what you wrote because if you did (obviously), you would have
realized what a fucking pompass ass turd would write something like that. Out.

IQ is going to be real twitchy for trail use without a long track. That and it sucks as a powder sled. Polaris will start making consumer IQs soon. They'll do it like they did with the ProX, in order to pay for tooling. Personally, I'd rather have an RMK-based Switchback than a stretched IQ...

Wow, what a topic we have here to read.

First off. I'm not a racer, I don't race, I never have raced and I don't intend to ever race snowmobiles. So, because I've bought two race chassis now, modified two race sleds, and made them into exactly what I want based on how I ride, that means I'm some sort of a fag huh? I don't get your logic but I'll try work through this anyway.

I agree. I can't stand the ones that talk the talk but then can't walk the walk but that doesn't mean the people who buy these sleds, slap in bigger engines, modify them to work exactly how they want, are these people. Obviously they are walking the walk and just not talking because they have taken the initiative to make something out of nothing. My main reason for doing this is the simple fact that I want something different.

Lets list what I've done to my IQ.

1. Purchase bare minimum chassis. No track, no skid, no shocks, no jack shaft, chain case, NOTHING.
2. Install 600 H.O.
3. Re valve and rebuild shocks I had already. Shocks are exactly the same you find on Pro-XR 800 consumer sled.
4. Add multi function display.
5. Move coolant hose behind seat to accommodate a rack to carry additional fuel.
6. Add larger fuel tank for trail use.

Now...Out of what of those six items would you consider "detuning"? Have you ever ridden a stock 440 IQ? Obviously not. If you have, you would know it is practically impossible to ride on the trails without doing some fine tuning. There is too much ski pressure, somethings are quirky, and it takes fine tuning to get these things working well. It's not an easy way out for but me, it's a cheaper way than going out and buying a Fusion.

The people picking up the IQ's, dropping in bigger engines, and modifying them over their stock counterparts are the farthest things from wannabes there are and those who simply get a trail head for the 440 don't want a bigger engine. If you haven't noticed...Polaris doesn't exactly offer a 440 LC engine in anything. In fact, your whole logic is ass half backwards. Wannabees are only those people who brag about how good they can ride and that they can beat anyone, blah blah, this and that. I'm not claiming any titles here, I'm not saying who I can or cannot beat. I'm stating what I've done. I've learned a lot. I've saved a lot of money. I have a sled that absolutely rocks. The power is incredible and the feel of the sled rules.

As for Polaris offering this chassis to the public...you won't see this exact chassis. It will be a variation of it. There will be changes to the front end, the hood and console design mostly. Things will change but I do hope they offer something in this style simply because some are not convinced on the looks of the Fusion and offering more choices couldn't hurt.

For those who are pissed because we have something that isn't offered direct from the factory...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We got off our asses, gathered our parts, and built this stuff. There's not a damn thing stopping you from doing the same thing.

I love this guy!!!!!!!!!!!

Very well said. GO sr_erick.

You and your sled are the reason I want to do an IQ build up should I ever come into some money.

Don't knock people or their sleds over the internet unless you have cold hard proof that they are OBVIOUSLY wannabes leave nothing to imagination

Jared

Listen up little erik... There are very few out there that can make this work, if you're one of them, then more power to ya. And if that's truly the case, you shouldn't feel the need to explain yourself.

Believe me, I could put just about anything under my ass to trail-ride if I wanted and I'm fairly certain nobody here would "leave me in the dust." Your explaination of public offerings by Polaris directly correlates with my definition of "detuning" and you said it yourself, ".... If you have, you would know it is practically impossible to ride on the trails without doing some fine tuning."

Why is it impossible??? ----->>> Because it wasn't meant for the TRAILS!

Duh?

Go ahead erik, think what you will... I never called you a wannabe, but if you're offended by my comments, then obviously there's some truth to my statement. I think it's frigging absurd that people want to ride race sleds on the trail... It's like calling an 7.5 second Pinto your "daily driver." Better yet... Why the fukc wasn't there a big push to convert oval sleds back in the day for trail use???

Because we gotta a wannabe baller society on our hands today, that's why!

I can see it now, in my best Napolean voice....

"IQ skid, bar riser.... Luckeeey!"

OR, while trying to pick up the only chick you've seen all w/e (and she goes about 250) "Ya know, I'm training to be Blair Morgan."

Like I said... If you got it going on, then more power to ya. You're the one who has to sleep with yourself, wannabe or not, you know what you are. I have an opinion based on experience and facts... No imagination needed, the guy with the pimped out ride will be the one who slows the group down 200 miles from nowhere.

Not to say the "pull and go" type of guys won't do the same thing....

But as far as I'm concerned, if you're going to have a race sled you also need a trail sled unless of course you're...

1) A wannabe
2) A racer who doesn't trail ride
3) Someone I'm not going to waste my hard earned vacation days on

hahaha!

I've wasted enough of my breath and time on this moron!!! :wut60:

Whos the wannabe, now. Better take your helmet off your heads getting pretty big.

Amen!!!

Wow,that was painfull to read.SR Erick keep up the good work and keep, us posted.

I'd say sr_erick said it all... :div20:

so if you trail ride a race sled you are a racer wannabe?


so does that mean if you race and own a trail sled you are a trail riding wannabe?


if it works one way, it should work both ways.




i dont understand why you have it stuck in your head that people cant trail ride a race sled. go find a trail sled that is as tough, as light, and has equal suspension travel as a race sled. you just cant do it, you will never ever make a trail sled AS good as a race sled. (and im not talking performance wise, im talking strength and handling). just be the bigger man and drop it and let people ride what they want, i dont understand some people these days. who would of thought the sport would come to calling people wannabe's for what they ride. lets grow up, and have fun riding.



i guess the saying "who cares what you are riding, as long as you ARE riding" doesnt go very far.

I really get a kick out of this guy, claiming he's not calling anyone 'wannabes'. Sure, not directly, but I've got a couple choice words to call 37 year old guys with names something like, fyoushum, or something similar. Can't believe I almost stereotyped you fyoushun, sorry 'bout that! (By the way, you did it again with your little numbered list)

Anyway, I was just looking at Polaris's website, checking to see if the 440 IQ was a genuine consumer sled, but I guess it isn't. Actually, the Fusion is designated as a performance sled, and in reading the summary about it, it seems to be to be strictly a trail or ditch machine. STAY ON THE TRAILS. Unless of course you have a Switchback, then you're allowed to go both on and off trails. DON'T GET IN TOO MUCH POWDER. Unless of course you have an RMK, then you can stay off trail. DON'T GET BACK ON THE TRAIL. Unless of course you have a Fusion or a Switchback, then you can, but not too much with the Switchback. Then you strictly need a Fusion. Man, this is exhausting figuring out what can go where, since Polaris DESIGNED these sleds for difference locations. They designed them for different scenerios, yet our very own Polaris offers long track kits for 'trail' sleds, low compression heads and larger fuel tanks for some of their 'race' sleds. Sure, they're trying to make an extra buck, but they don't make racer tanks or high compression heads for their RMKs. Everything is so contradictory, but in the end I don't doubt that you're opinion is more valuable fyoushun.

I'd like to be the first to thank you for your insightful comments. You've helped me to understand how important your opinion is. Try not to claim the 'it's my opinion have your own and don't get mad' line. You knew this would cause an uproar, unless you're utterly stupid. I'm not pointing fingers, it's your decision as to what you are... right?

P.S. If there's any disrepency about the toughness of the different frames, by all means come to South Dakota where I'll treat you to an all expenses (minus travel, I'm in college so I'm poor, cut me some slack) trip to my little bitty ramp. I'll be glad to let you, or if you don't want to risk being tagged a freestyle poser, I'll be glad to take your Fusion for a couple jumps. Afterwards, we'll tally up the broken parts count and declare a winner.

I see both sides of the argument here...

fyoushun actually does have a point if you can see through his jackassery. For trail use, a Fusion is going to be a better sled. You get a better ride, better wind protection, headlights, a nice gauge cluster, an adjustable steering post, storage.

For off trail use, the Switchback or RMK is going to be a better sled.

However, there are a lot of snowmobilers out there (like me actually) who like to have a unique ride and want a platform that's very mod-friendly. It's going to be a rough ride. It's going to be cold. It might not have stock reliability. It might sink like a stone in powder. BUT, it's unique. It's fun to build. Its rider loves it. That's really all that matters...

man we dont all race, some of us like to back country ride, and we want good running sleds. Someone woke up on the wrong side of there grandmother this morning

"Im 37 and out of shape, I cant handle an aggressive riding race style sled" Thats ok bud, maybe you should get a 2-up..and have "no one leave you in there dust"
Sweet looking IQ's guys...wish I had the funds!!

I guess i am a wanna be even though i jump over 80 feet everytime i ride, drop conices that will make a grown man piss his pants, and do step ups that you need binoculars to see the top of. Man, i am so dumb for going out and buying a chassis that can handle this. I knew i should of just got a regular IQ 600.

Its all so clear now, i through in a larger engine and wasted all that time for nothing. ANyone want to trade my IQ wannabe sled for a regular Fusion.

Go back two posts, a man that actually makes sense.... Matt!

Ya... We see a lot of cornices, 80ft jumps and step ups here in the midwest!

Duh? LOL!

I said I'd like to have one.... BUT it's going to get used as it was intended and only how it was intended.

Sorry guys, But I'll put a coupla three hundred miles on in a day's time on a sled that's meant to do just that. If I tried to do that type of riding on a race chassis, I'd be sore and feel like a wannabe all day long.

If you are just going out running cornices, 80ft jumps and step ups.... I highly doubt you get many 150-300 mile days in, am I right?

Chit - You don't even have headlights so you gotta be in before dark!

For crying out loud, why is this so hard to understand? Turning a race sled into a trail cruiser is plain and simply wannnabe, there's nothing else that describes this... Well maybe the word poser???

If that's all you're going to do all day is fukc around a few square miles going off some "sweet jumps" and off-trail backwoods goofing around have at it, I could think of nothing better to use than the IQ 440. I wouldn't consider you to be a wannabe.

However, put the same sled on a trail with three of your buddies who are all on trail sleds while you barely get air on every snowbank in sight.... I'm calling you out as I see you, a poser wannabe.

Do you consider the fact that a lot of the guys that 'convert' their IQs aren't sitting on their butt on the trails all day as you do? Why would I want a pregnant looking Fusion with subpar shocks, track, ergos, when all I need on my IQ is a tank and head, both of which are done. I'm very much willing to compromise the niceties for the benefits. It would be thousands of dollars less in my pocket to pick up a used Fusion and beef it up enough to handle what I'd put it through. Money talks big, and I'm listening. Sure, you're kind of right if I were to trail ride all day, those guys don't make any sense to me. I guess if you sit on the trails all day those are the only guys you see. The rest of the men will be in the backcountry, or even ditchbanging. I can't tell you how pathetic 'trail' sleds are for launching off an approach, I've had them, now I've seen the light. Happy trails to you buddy, fortunately for us 'wannabe posers', our trails come with deep powder or some air under the track.

Oh, i got headlights too but the way, they are PIAA's mounted to the hood now. Sorry just wanted to point out that you were worng again fyou.

Really i can see why you wouldnt want a iq, but why rag on the other peopl that do. Its their choice so let them have fun with it. If they want to be a poser so be it, as long as they got a true hard core trail rider like yourself to save them when they run out of gas, let them be the fool, then you can say i told you so all the way home. However, with your attiutde i dont think that there are to many people that ride with you that own a sled like these and if they did they would ride with your whinning ass for long.

Cool sled dude, have a good winter and tear up those trails like no other, your the best.

Hyflyer, that is an awesome sled. Do you have any pics of jumps and stuff that you could post. I think that everyone is getting caught up in the moment here. I believe that everyone should ride what they feel comfortable riding. Doesn't that make sense? I ride what I like..I would hope you had the chance to ride what you enjoy...

fyoushun am I a poser wannabe?

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Hey fyoushun
I think its time for your patented thread locking racist, pig headed comments. Looks like you are losing this one too. Start with post 100
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Here is my poser sled from last year. (440 converted to 800 for trail) Best sled I ever had BTW.
I knew you'd like it LOL.

Not raggin on anyone in particular, not even you even though you've managed to take a few pot shots at me... Go back to the original post and the dude was basically calling out IQ observations like it was a poorly designed consumer sled.

You see, I'm passionate about sledding and I'm well aware people do it in different locations, such as yourself... This is why I have consitently stated that people who convert IQ race chassis into "trail" sleds are wannabes. However, here in the MW we ride mostly on private property that is open to the public, but it's not free. Clubs spend a lot of time and energy opening trails and keeping landowners happy! My enjoyment in this activity is directly tied to the wannabes that think they're Blair Morgan cause they found a $4500 roller at a swap meet and an engine on e-bay. He's the guy that thinks a driveway snowbank is his personal tabletop without regard for the fact he's landing on the old lady's bushes... Or better yet the moron who thinks a loud can is cool while tearing it up down a single file 25MPH road at 2 AM.

I stick to it guys... Public trails were meant for consumer based sleds and SCCA certified cans, if you live/ride in the middle of nowhere and have a sled that fits that environment, great!

Otherwise you're a wannabe, plain and simple.




Unfortunately, I'll have to take you down a notch here and say no... You're sled is a consumer based model with wannabe bling.




Same with you.... But I will say this and it further proves my point. I can't even count the number of people I know that cried like little panzees around 150 miles of riding their P-X for the day... Obviously they had a different view on what they needed before they bought it, and I bet the word 'wannabe' was in there somewhere. One guy even asked to try my Edge for a few miles, then wouldn't give it back! I was fresh from riding the plush XC all day and romped his P-X the rest of the way home.

That Frenchie Renault POS wouldn't even qualify you to be a wannabe garden tractor special olympics racer.

I ride my prox 200+ miles per day. Same as I did when I had my 98 xc 700.
The pro x out handles the xc I had.

Yeah, that's based on the sled, not the guy/gal riding it... Hard to believe you don't realize how arrogant you are...

I think the word wannabe hits a homerun with someone?