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Old 01-31-2017, 08:21 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah I agree. The red Loctite should have held it better. Small fastners like that you almost have a shear the bolt head off risk when removing without heat.

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Old 01-31-2017, 08:22 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Happened to Yamaha in the late 90s. They claimed it was from faulty red loctite. I took a ton of those apart to do recalls and found "no" loctite on several. At that time, we had to install new bolts, with green 690 loctite. We also had to leave the sled inside at room temperature for 24 hours so the threadlock would cure. Possible they had a problem with the locking agent not activating or something. Either way check your bolts a shattered ring gear at 8,000 RPM can kill you.

This needs to be a recall and Polaris isn't going to report it themselves so you guys that have this happen need to notify the feds of the problem so someone doesn't get killed. The more complaints the more likely there will be a recall.
Was thinking the same thing about how to get it bounced directly to a recall vs case by case scenario that will go on for years.
Great info, thanks.
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Yeah I agree. The red Loctite should have held it better. Small fastners like that you almost have a shear the bolt head off risk when removing without heat.

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Old 01-31-2017, 08:24 AM   #54 (permalink)
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This issue could kill someone and mame real bad. Thank God that has not happened yet.
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Yes it surely could but thankfully everyone has been ok that we know of.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:13 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I had my clutch off, so I checked mine last night. All the ring gear bolts were tight enough I couldn't crack them loose with the allen key I had so I left them alone.
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I had my clutch off, so I checked mine last night. All the ring gear bolts were tight enough I couldn't crack them loose with the allen key I had so I left them alone.

K5 - do you know your build date by chance?
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Either way check your bolts a shattered ring gear at 8,000 RPM can kill you.

This needs to be a recall and Polaris isn't going to report it themselves so you guys that have this happen need to notify the feds of the problem so someone doesn't get killed. The more complaints the more likely there will be a recall.
Normally I try to not be the chicken little guy but this scares the crap out of me. I'm very thankful it hasn't happened to me (yet). I agree that considering this can disable and or kill people, seems like Polaris needs to get ahead of it and be proactive.

Didn't they just have a recall on RZRs for catching fire? Heck, you can get OFF of a RZR that is burning. Clutch parts coming apart at 8000 RPM is a very different deal.
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More to come today, I hope. Dealership was closed yesterday so all my dealer could do was start the warranty ticket. With the tech there today they can start tearing into it to see the full extent of the damage. I'm still worried about that oil line getting cut and really hope it didn't impact the engine. The other thing circling through my mind is, if that ring gear held on for a little while before it blew, how much out of balance was that primary ... and what impact did it possibly have on the crank?

Ugh - sucks to sit here and think about all the stuff that could be wrong (and how long the sled could be in the shop). Hopefully the dealer and Polaris can put my mind at ease SOON.

On a side note - my pain is apparently a good thing for you guys in my favorite area I see the Hayward/Cable area is back in business! Ride 'em like you stole 'em fellas!!
That really sucks man I hope it's covered and if it is not then maybe it'll fall out of a pickup bed on the way to the dealer Seriously though could ,would or should it be an insurance issue?? agents please advise
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:50 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I am glad to hear that OP and the others at this situation happened to didn't get injured and are still here to notify us. If dealer was nice enough to start the warranty ticket on a day off then they should be able to get you back on the trail ASAParts are available, or better yet give you a loaner considering the seriousness of the "What would've happened" scenario.

Makes you wonder also, all sleds are made on the same line and most of the same builders. Might not be isolated to only a certain model type? Might be due to a couple workers during a specific build date throughout all models with e-start? Who knows? Maybe they were needed on a new station of the line they weren't familiar with while regulars weren't available?

I am not really concerned as to how it happened, but more of a concern as to what all models are involved.
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