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Old 03-27-2017, 04:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone, this is my first post here on HCS. I have a 2014 voyager 600 with 5000 miles. Ive had all the heating problems that alot talk about on here that i remedied with ice scratchers. Then while riding yesterday, my engine temp would not go down but continue to heat up as long as the engine ran. i knew coolant wasnt pumping, so i decided with a big lump on my throat to take the engine out and split the crank case. After doing so, i discovered the crankshaft gear that turns the oil pump and coolant pump was worn down so much it wasn't able to turn the pump gear. there is ground metal everywhere where the gear goes. it looks to me the gears are made of brass or some soft metal. I just wanted to know what other folks thought about it, and or what others would do. i live in a town of a 1000 and there is 4 recent indys that had the same problem. just seems like polaris made a "set to fail" part.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They are all like that. You can buy the gear but you will jave to change the bearings. It sucks a verry poor design IMO

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Old 04-01-2017, 08:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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what scratchers are you running? neeed to add some on my 15 voyager in the near future... sad to see engine wear at that low of mileage!
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Hello everyone, this is my first post here on HCS. I have a 2014 voyager 600 with 5000 miles. Ive had all the heating problems that alot talk about on here that i remedied with ice scratchers. Then while riding yesterday, my engine temp would not go down but continue to heat up as long as the engine ran. i knew coolant wasnt pumping, so i decided with a big lump on my throat to take the engine out and split the crank case. After doing so, i discovered the crankshaft gear that turns the oil pump and coolant pump was worn down so much it wasn't able to turn the pump gear. there is ground metal everywhere where the gear goes. it looks to me the gears are made of brass or some soft metal. I just wanted to know what other folks thought about it, and or what others would do. i live in a town of a 1000 and there is 4 recent indys that had the same problem. just seems like polaris made a "set to fail" part.
Wow,this is not good news. Do u know the mileage of the other sleds?
Is the crank brass gear shot also? Are you getting proper oiling? If the small gear is bad I would imagine crank has to be pressed for large gear to be replaced???
Large job. Where are u in the process? Please keep us posted.
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For 2018, Polaris addressed that problem. The two gears now run in a slight oil bath, giving them more lubrication then oil splashing over them.
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Haven't run into those issues yet on the newer 600's but seen it on older ones. Running a cheaper 2 stroke oil seems to accelerate the wear on these gears. Imo its better to run the poo oil or something that meets very close to it. Good to turn up the pump to.
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i sent my engine via 177$ air frieght to darbys in fairbanks. the replaced parts on my crankshaft and lower case. 1500$ for parts and labor. i now have the engine back and rode a 100 miles premixed fuel towing my 18'skiff to camp. th oil line at the injection popped off half way and left a mess but my fuel being premixed saved an engine burn out. everything is running normal, temps are back in the 120s but it sure seems like the part will fail again. i use spring and rod scratchers and the helps keep cool even in shitty snow.
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i sent my engine via 177$ air frieght to darbys in fairbanks. the replaced parts on my crankshaft and lower case. 1500$ for parts and labor. i now have the engine back and rode a 100 miles premixed fuel towing my 18'skiff to camp. th oil line at the injection popped off half way and left a mess but my fuel being premixed saved an engine burn out. everything is running normal, temps are back in the 120s but it sure seems like the part will fail again. i use spring and rod scratchers and the helps keep cool even in shitty snow.
this just pisses me off knowing i m going to go through this same bullshit.
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i sent my engine via 177$ air frieght to darbys in fairbanks. the replaced parts on my crankshaft and lower case. 1500$ for parts and labor. i now have the engine back and rode a 100 miles premixed fuel towing my 18'skiff to camp. th oil line at the injection popped off half way and left a mess but my fuel being premixed saved an engine burn out. everything is running normal, temps are back in the 120s but it sure seems like the part will fail again. i use spring and rod scratchers and the helps keep cool even in shitty snow.
Your pre-mixed fuel wasn't touching anything in the bottom end of your engine, how long did you ride it before you found the line off? That will cause a lot of damage fast in my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the oil injection comes threw the engine from the bottom up unlike the old carb models.
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i sent my engine via 177$ air frieght to darbys in fairbanks. the replaced parts on my crankshaft and lower case. 1500$ for parts and labor. i now have the engine back and rode a 100 miles premixed fuel towing my 18'skiff to camp. th oil line at the injection popped off half way and left a mess but my fuel being premixed saved an engine burn out. everything is running normal, temps are back in the 120s but it sure seems like the part will fail again. i use spring and rod scratchers and the helps keep cool even in shitty snow.
i could have sold you a new crank shipped for that. there is something we do the the upper case. no more waterpump/oil pump drive gear issue after that. we mod. the cases on all polaris motors once opened up. to get more oil to bearings,gear, etc. it works.

i really don't know what these engineers are doing but there is no common sense with these guys thats for sure.
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