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Old 03-21-2012, 09:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I like the idea of the TD set up. Alot! But from what I understand he does not do clutching? So who fine tunes all his power and programs to the ground? for all us purchasers? And answers tech questions on clutch set ups. I know from experience that all the power in the world is usless with out proper clutching.

The exact reason I've been with Dale all these years. When it dont work right either he or Glenn helps me figure it out and make it right.

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Dale and Josh built my 2012 and it has been perfect from day one.at 220hp without the reflash it ran 7850 and after the reflash at 250hp i set the weights where glen told me to and it runs 8150.there is no lag trail riding and is an animal on the trail at 250hp,i even had a few ski-doo guys try it on the trail and they loved how it road and pulled.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:56 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Welp I was in the same boat, went D&D off the bat and had great results, then I got a little more curious and jumped into the TD stuff, there are many here posting setups I grabbed up the most common one and it was game on. So it seems there is just as little tuning involved now with the TD setup as well. I was almost on the money first ride out just had to add a little heel weight and it was right where it needs to be.

IMO now that I have run both it is alot nicer to have A the knock light and B the lighter clutching in the trails. The 4 map certinly is good!
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I guess my biggest mistake with the z1 big turbo was to clutch to race and then trail ride it. always in too high of a gear. I tried to cover the best of both world and now realize it cant be done. Although it was so fun to show up with my trails buddies and pound on the lake race guys for a while. Piss them off cause a trail sled just whooped them. Then take off for more trails.

My take is to clutch light for the trails ( way mre responsive) and if your gonna race have a total different set up for that????
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Do i have to shim the primary to use STM weights?
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:48 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I guess my biggest mistake with the z1 big turbo was to clutch to race and then trail ride it. always in too high of a gear. I tried to cover the best of both world and now realize it cant be done. Although it was so fun to show up with my trails buddies and pound on the lake race guys for a while. Piss them off cause a trail sled just whooped them. Then take off for more trails.

My take is to clutch light for the trails ( way mre responsive) and if your gonna race have a total different set up for that????
Your going to end up have 2 set ups. For trail riding, you will end up with alot of mid and tip weight with a soft spring, Drag racing you will want alot of heel and mid weight with a touch heavier spring for belt grab.

Trail set up, dont need a good holeshot, needs good mid range snap. A touch heavier on secondary spring, maybe 20-30lbs. And Please dont use the daltons....I know everyone likes them for how easy it is to adjust the weight, and I know they do the job...but there are sooo many better weights. I have seen the old heavy hitters work better then daltons. So far I like the STM X series the most. You have better choice in weight placement.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Hey AJ thanks for your input. You gonna be on a turbo again next year?
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Your going to end up have 2 set ups. For trail riding, you will end up with alot of mid and tip weight with a soft spring, Drag racing you will want alot of heel and mid weight with a touch heavier spring for belt grab.

Trail set up, dont need a good holeshot, needs good mid range snap. A touch heavier on secondary spring, maybe 20-30lbs. And Please dont use the daltons....I know everyone likes them for how easy it is to adjust the weight, and I know they do the job...but there are sooo many better weights. I have seen the old heavy hitters work better then daltons. So far I like the STM X series the most. You have better choice in weight placement.
A touch heavier on the secondary? IMO its already stiff even more so then needed for the trail with the stock helix. You could bump up the degree on the helix and still be fine.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:24 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Hey AJ thanks for your input. You gonna be on a turbo again next year?
I got something up my sleeve. Should be fun to say the least and it will have a turbo under the hood.
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