F vs XF on the trails - HCS Snowmobile Forums

ProCross (2012 - ) F+ XF 800/1100/ This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature. Please be aware that if you violate this policy you are in danger of losing your posting privileges on this website.The calling out or posting of another members personal information IE phone number or address is prohibited.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-29-2012, 07:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
tommcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,257
Current Sled(s): 13 F1100T LXR, 07 F6, 72 Cheetah 440
Previous Sled(s): 10 F8, 06 F7, 03 ZR9, 02 ZL6, 98 ZR6, 86 El Tigre 6000
Location: Western MA
Favorite Riding Area: Far away from CT people
Riding Since: 1977
Default F vs XF on the trails

i am ordering a 2013 procross and am torn between the longer track of an XF and the coupled slide action skid on the F. i'm looking for some feedback from anyone who has actually ridden BOTH on the trails and can give me an honest comparison between the 2. on the trail ride and handling is really my only concern here.
__________________
tommcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-29-2012, 09:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
gwilburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,109
Current Sled(s): 2012 F8 Sno Pro 137"
Previous Sled(s): 08 F8, 06 CF6, 03 F7
Location: Grantsville, MD
Favorite Riding Area: Ontario & da UP
13-14 Mileage: 1500
12-13 Mileage: 2175
11-12 Mileage: 853
10-11 Mileage: 1400
Age: 46
Riding Since: 1972
Default

I was in the same boat last year this time. I told myself that my next sled was a crossover. At the last minute I changed my mind and ordered the F. Now, I haven't ridden the XF so I can't give a comparison. All I can say is that I wish i would have stuck to the XF
gwilburn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 54
Current Sled(s): 2012 XF 1100T retro
Previous Sled(s): 1995 ZR 580
Location: north west ontario
11-12 Mileage: 2250 miles
Age: 33
Riding Since: 1990
Default

I have the 2012 XF 1100 T and I am wanting better trail performance, so I might look into retrofitting the slide action skid and couplers to my skid. Check out the 2013 crosstour, pretty much exactly what I want, XF with the F skid.

That being said, I've made some adjsutments to the sled and its getting pretty damn close to what I want. Hate to say it, but the best upgrade was the ski poo pilot 5.7x race sled skis I just put on...

I drove the 1200 xr and a 600 xp etec and I couldn't stand the way they rode and handled, especially the 1200. It was so nervous and darty, front end is real heavy. Rode very nice though, but I'll get there with the XF.
jimi 580 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Super 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,384
Current Sled(s): 2014 XF 8000 137" Orange Limited
Location: SD
12-13 Mileage: 2250
11-12 Mileage: 1050
10-11 Mileage: 2600
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimi 580 View Post
I have the 2012 XF 1100 T and I am wanting better trail performance, so I might look into retrofitting the slide action skid and couplers to my skid. Check out the 2013 crosstour, pretty much exactly what I want, XF with the F skid.
All the 2013 XF's have the slide action rear suspension.
__________________

No Substitute For BIG JUGS!!
Super 8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
tommcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,257
Current Sled(s): 13 F1100T LXR, 07 F6, 72 Cheetah 440
Previous Sled(s): 10 F8, 06 F7, 03 ZR9, 02 ZL6, 98 ZR6, 86 El Tigre 6000
Location: Western MA
Favorite Riding Area: Far away from CT people
Riding Since: 1977
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super 8 View Post
All the 2013 XF's have the slide action rear suspension.
i'm not sure if that's right or not. they all say fastrac suspension but not fastrac slide action like it does in the F spec sheets.
__________________
tommcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
tommcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,257
Current Sled(s): 13 F1100T LXR, 07 F6, 72 Cheetah 440
Previous Sled(s): 10 F8, 06 F7, 03 ZR9, 02 ZL6, 98 ZR6, 86 El Tigre 6000
Location: Western MA
Favorite Riding Area: Far away from CT people
Riding Since: 1977
Default

those of you with the XF, do you find yourself wishing it was coupled? are the skis in the air a lot? any other downsides to it?
__________________
tommcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
dt6957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,036
Current Sled(s): 2014 ZR6000 RR
Previous Sled(s): 2008 F6 LXR (wife)
Location: sask
Favorite Riding Area: Hudson Bay
Riding Since: 1978
Default

I have an F and ride with 2- XF's and we swapped to see the difference. For strictly trail riding I prefer the F. It is a lighter feeling/ less bulky sled because it is shorter. It corners a little better. Ride is actually pretty close as the F does have the better suspension but with the length of the XF it helps bridge some of the bumps so I would say ride is a wash. The XF locks up better on the trail and that is even with my 1-1/2 ripsaw I put on mine. Top end on the F is a nice bit faster than the XF, 5-8 MPH on the same stretch.

They are both excellent sleds, can't go wrong either way, I just feel on the trail the F is the superior sled.
__________________
Cat History:
1976 Cheetah 5000
1997 Cougar 550
1998 ZR600efi Limited
1997 ZR440
2000 ZR600efi Limited
2002 ZR800efi Cross Country
2003 F7 Sno-Pro Team Canada
2000 ZRT600 Limitied
2002 ZL550esr
2002 ZR800efi
2004 Sabercat 600lx
2003 F7 Sno-Pro Team Arctic
2005 Sabercat 600efi
2006 Crossfire 600
2007 F6
2008 F6 LXR Pink (wife)
2008 Jaguar Z1 Black
2008 Jaguar Z1 Green
2010 Z1 EXT Turbo
2012 F1100 NA 50th edition black sno-pro (order)
dt6957 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 476
Current Sled(s): 2015 pro rmk 800 TD, 2012 mxz 600 (wifes)
Previous Sled(s): Lots of cats, one doo
Location: NH
Favorite Riding Area: Pittsburg/Rangeley
Age: 30
Riding Since: 1990
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommcat View Post
those of you with the XF, do you find yourself wishing it was coupled? are the skis in the air a lot? any other downsides to it?
Pulled limiter in one hole and now it handles awesome, but I also have pilot 5.7 skis which make all the difference.
__________________
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" Andretti-
Bfluery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
tommcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,257
Current Sled(s): 13 F1100T LXR, 07 F6, 72 Cheetah 440
Previous Sled(s): 10 F8, 06 F7, 03 ZR9, 02 ZL6, 98 ZR6, 86 El Tigre 6000
Location: Western MA
Favorite Riding Area: Far away from CT people
Riding Since: 1977
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dt6957 View Post
I have an F and ride with 2- XF's and we swapped to see the difference. For strictly trail riding I prefer the F. It is a lighter feeling/ less bulky sled because it is shorter. It corners a little better. Ride is actually pretty close as the F does have the better suspension but with the length of the XF it helps bridge some of the bumps so I would say ride is a wash. The XF locks up better on the trail and that is even with my 1-1/2 ripsaw I put on mine. Top end on the F is a nice bit faster than the XF, 5-8 MPH on the same stretch.

They are both excellent sleds, can't go wrong either way, I just feel on the trail the F is the superior sled.
that's the kind of info i'm looking for, thank you
__________________
tommcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 09:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
crowne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 291
Current Sled(s): XF1100T 50TH,12 SB Assault
Previous Sled(s): 08 Xfire 8, 05 Sabercat 500
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Default

If trail riding is your concern, I would go with the F. If you go off trail and deep snow, that"s where the XF will shine.
crowne is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0