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Old 02-23-2010, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When looking into the waterpump hose opening and pulling the engine over,should I be able to see the bolt that is just off center of the opening turn? If it is not turning what could be the problem?
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes it should turn..... You got problems if it don't!
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The bearings might have seized and the gear has broke away from the shaft.
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Or the gear in the pump has stripped teeth.
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This is not sounding good............,any specifics I should watch for?
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QUOTE (3 RED HEADS @ Feb 23 2010, 10:06 PM)
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This is not sounding good............,any specifics I should watch for?[/b]
Take it off and evaluate it. Drain the coolant, remove the hose, remove the four screws holding it in place and check it out.

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Old 02-24-2010, 10:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Problem found. I pulled the waterpump tonight, as was suggested in other post the large waterpump bearing seized up,locked the shaft and the engine kept turning the gear, breaking/melting the gear on the shaft. About the only useable parts are the housing halves.
Just for information to others,it never leaked coolant out of the pump,made any noise or gave any indication of a problem until the temp light popped on. I was able to shut it off before engine damage occurred,cylinders look good,good compression. 2500 miles.
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Problem found. I pulled the waterpump tonight, as was suggested in other post the large waterpump bearing seized up,locked the shaft and the engine kept turning the gear, breaking/melting the gear on the shaft. About the only useable parts are the housing halves.
Just for information to others,it never leaked coolant out of the pump,made any noise or gave any indication of a problem until the temp light popped on. I was able to shut it off before engine damage occurred,cylinders look good,good compression. 2500 miles.
Thanks to all of the people who replied.
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Interesting..
Thanks for letting us know what happened.
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had to rebuild the water pump on a 99 xcr 800 last winter, had the same problem. I recently pulled the pipes so I could install a new track. Checked the oil level in the water pump, and it was almost empty. Ran less than 250 miles with the new pump and the oil was almost gone. The book says to add 50 cc of oil, but it doesn't last long. It's worth the hastle to pull the pipes and add oil every few hundred miles I guess. I'm guessing a crank seal may be going bad? No obvious signs of an oil leak so leak must be internal? Sled just turned over 4000 miles. Any suggestions. Don't want to have to rebuild another pump in the middle of winter!
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I had to rebuild the water pump on a 99 xcr 800 last winter, had the same problem. I recently pulled the pipes so I could install a new track. Checked the oil level in the water pump, and it was almost empty. Ran less than 250 miles with the new pump and the oil was almost gone. The book says to add 50 cc of oil, but it doesn't last long. It's worth the hastle to pull the pipes and add oil every few hundred miles I guess. I'm guessing a crank seal may be going bad? No obvious signs of an oil leak so leak must be internal? Sled just turned over 4000 miles. Any suggestions. Don't want to have to rebuild another pump in the middle of winter![/b]
XCR 800 pumps do not take any oil, only 1996 600 sp's and 1996 Ultra's had an oil filled pump.
Those had 0w/40 ATV synthetic engine oil in the pumps.
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