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Old 12-11-2007, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this has been discussed in detail (just spent hours sorting thru it...) but I have a question I hope someone can answer.

I need 12Vdc for a small electric pump I plan to install on my 2002 ZR8. My present voltage regulator is part #0630-142 2-wire. Is there any reason I can't use the electric start version from a Z570ESR part #0630-143 3-wire? I assume this is a regulator/rectifier combo and the 3rd wire has 12VDC for charging the batteries. I realize I may have to do some spicing to make my 2 prong plug work with the 3 prong plug of the regulator. This would be cleaner than adding a seperate rectifier.

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Old 12-11-2007, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just founded that the 3rd wire on the above 3 wire regulator is DC but half wave, need full wave. Guess it's back to a seperate rectifier.

I know Polaris makes one but I don't want the plug. I believe the rectifier is actually built into the plug.

I've also read parts to make your own can be brought at Radio Shack. Are there any instructions anywhere on whats needed and how to make? I'm a high voltage engineer PE (345000 volt). I don't usually mess with the low voltage stuff but if anyone can point me in the right direction, I think I can put one together.

Also, any other options are welcomed.

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Old 12-11-2007, 04:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I bought the below a couple of years ago to run my GPS. However the website is dead?? Need a pump to spray Dawn soap on the hyfax?

http://sales.shaftek.com/snowpower.htm
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The Snow Power unit is a product designed for snowmobiles that do not have battery's installed. This unit will convert the electrical power from your sled in to useful electricity that can be used to power almost any 12 volt accessory The Shaf Tech Snow Power unit will provide up to *5 amps of power that provides a steady 12 volt DC source that is suitiable for even the most sensitive pieces of equipment. Snow Power and the Sno-glow driver can be ordered to be built into one enclosure.

Note: The Snow power unit is a separate product that is NOT required to operate the Sno-glow system

Snow power (5 amp) $39.95
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Just founded that the 3rd wire on the above 3 wire regulator is DC but half wave, need full wave. Guess it's back to a seperate rectifier.

I know Polaris makes one but I don't want the plug. I believe the rectifier is actually built into the plug.

I've also read parts to make your own can be brought at Radio Shack. Are there any instructions anywhere on whats needed and how to make? I'm a high voltage engineer PE (345000 volt). I don't usually mess with the low voltage stuff but if anyone can point me in the right direction, I think I can put one together.

Also, any other options are welcomed.

Thanks.[/b]
Take a look at this link or google full wave rectifier. http://www.wam.umd.edu/~toh/ElectroSim/FullWave.html

The diodes convert the AC to DC, the capacitor smooths out the ripples for smooth DC power. You won't need a transformer unless you are trying to change the voltage.

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Old 12-12-2007, 07:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Need a pump to spray Dawn soap on the hyfax?


Something like that...

The Snow Power would be perfect but can't get to the website. There is another regulator/rectifier and condensor that puts out 12VDC on the APV sleds. But at $205 for the APV regulator, I think I'll stay away from it.

Are there any other complete rectifiers available or do I need to make one?

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If you don't mind doing a little bit of soldering, you can make your own rectifier for about $5. Radio shack sells a full wave rectifier chip for about $3.50. Then you just need a capacitor, a few pieces of wire, and if you want to, a small project box to put it into. Doing a google search for "bridge rectifier" will give you the hookup information, but it's extremely easy. The rectifier chip has 4 pins... 2 inputs and 2 outputs. You put the a/c to the input, and dc comes off the output. You solder the capacitor across the output and you're all done.
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If you don't mind doing a little bit of soldering, you can make your own rectifier for about $5. Radio shack sells a full wave rectifier chip for about $3.50. Then you just need a capacitor, a few pieces of wire, and if you want to, a small project box to put it into. Doing a google search for "bridge rectifier" will give you the hookup information, but it's extremely easy. The rectifier chip has 4 pins... 2 inputs and 2 outputs. You put the a/c to the input, and dc comes off the output. You solder the capacitor across the output and you're all done.[/b]
I made mine and used the attached instructions from the web. I also went to an electronics store to get my parts as Radio Shack only ahd bits and pieces in stock.

I attached my actual parts list also for reference.

It is a easy build and mine still works like a charm running phone and GPS.

I have a hard connection to my Autometer temp gauge as well as a 12V socket.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Good information guys. I think I can put one together but I don't think the 1A rectifier will handle the load of a small DC motor. It appears to be geared more for electronics.

However, I noticed Radio Shack has a 25A 50V rectifier which is larger than I need but would work for my application and I would definitely fused the input side to protect the stator. I would like to put a capacitor across the output for cleaner voltage. But I'm not sure how to calculate the size and I don't want to go dig out my college books... Can't anyone give me a quick lesson?

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